Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

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  •  07-31-2010, 3:14 PM 910811

    Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    Okay, people here seem to have the notion that Halo 4 (Activision is in charge of it, btw because they bought Bungie or something like that) will include Master Chief. However, this is not true. The man is dead. Take a hammer, put a post-it note with the previous sentence written on it, and beat your face in until you see skull fragments on the hammer. The Chief is gone, dead, never coming back EVER. I will explain the top five reasons as to why below:

    1) Faster Than Light Communication - FTL Comms would be in the front of the ship since we know how the UNSC design their ships. That means the Chief's beacon would be like shooting an AM radio wave from Mars to Earth: three days to traverse that distance. From outside the galaxy to Earth? Centuries. Rescue's not coming in 'years, even.' Cortana will have unraveled her own coding and gone straight-up Mendicant Bias by that time and blown the ship up in a fit of AI-PMS. And to explain Rampancy: an AI in Rampancy is the equivalent of a clinically insane person. They don't realize they've gone totally mad, and they won't ever realize it. The only AI to have ever recovered from Rampancy in the Haloverse was Mendicant Bias, and that's probably just because he got bored of being insane.

    2) Powered Cryo Tube - The reactor in the back-end of the ship is probably on low reserves, considering the fact that the Forward Unto Dawn was running during the entire course of Halo 3, shooting things, landing in atmosphere, and avoiding getting blown to all Hell, which means it's either out of fuel by the time it gets lopped in half or it's almost out of it. That means the pod he's sitting in only has at the most a few years of life in it. And when it powers off, he's screwed. Also, it slows down human processes - it doesn't stop them. For lack of use, his body will deteriorate in a state called atrophy. After a few decades of this, he will reach a point where he won't even be able to turn his head much less stand up in zero-gee. Also, his suit freezing to his skin will deteriorate his body on the molecular level slowly.

    3) Starvation - He's in the middle of space. The closest planet is a Forerunner world that got blown the Hell up, and if the fly-over of it in Halo: Origins was canon, it's a barren planet that's devoid of anything except an atmosphere and metal. What's the Chief going to do? Evolve to eat steel, space-rock, and somehow drink the moisture in the air? Impossible. He's done. The hydroponics of the ship was at the front, either that or it's highly likely it will not work in a vacuum and on auxiliary power.

    4)  Traveling Outside The Galaxy - The portal was destroyed when the Halo on the Ark blew up. That's what sliced the ship in half. The Humans don't have the resources to hunt down the greatest supersoldier who would only return without a purpose and then grab an AI that significantly shortened its own lifespan and has probably gone insane. The Elites sure as Hell wouldn't look for him, they just barely respected him during the events of Halo 3. And besides, it isn't like they knew the limits of their ships in the first place: the ships looked fancy and could outclass UNSC ships, but the Covenant just reverse engineered and jury-rigged Forerunner tech into their ships. They couldn't make a jump to outside of the galaxy at random. Also, don't forget that the ship has some momentum to take it even further from the galaxy.

    5)  Reconstructing the 'Ark Portal' is Impossible - When the Halo fired, obviously some of it went through the portal. Otherwise, it wouldn't have closed. This probably obliterated one or both ends of the portal. This means that both openings of the portal (a portal/wormhole works like telephone, in layman's terms) would be disconnected from the center point they would connect at.If you stick your hand through a doorway (which is what that portal was) and the doorway closes with enough force to slice a spaceship in half, your hand will be on the other side of that doorway, and where the doorway sliced through will be representing all the distance the portal would have bypassed. Sure, stabilized wormholes work like telephones in a sense, but if a stabilized wormhole were to close when your hand would push through it, your hand would get lopped off and dropped at the exit point and you'd be standing in the entry point. The chunk between the severed hand and your arm would not be in a magical between world. And if it did collapse as he went through it, he wouldn't be anywhere in explored space - the Ark's solar system or otherwise. He'd be in a pocket of slipspace, completely separated from all means of communication. Thus, it reopening would not be possible before the Chief died out. Considering the front half of the Forward Unto Dawn fell into water in the cutscene, that means the Relic Site is probably filled back up with water by now, or otherwise destroyed with water on top. Or we could say the front half managed to get enough momentum to carry it to the oceans nearby, but still. The Relic site is almost definitely done for, and if it isn't, the Ark sure as Hell is. For a controlled wormhole to open, you'd need two points that could generate that spacial rift. If one end is gone, the wormhole will either open up somewhere random or not function at all. I doubt even an army of Huragok Engineers could fix that. And for the record, it wouldn't be the Chief that would be fixing it. That would be on the task of the people who would be on the other end of it.

    So, to put it shortly: the Chief is dead due to the fact that FTL Comms are out of the question. He's also dead due to the fact that the Cryo Tube will run out of power before the beacon is received by any civilization in existence. And when the tube dies, what the Hell is he gonna eat? Space rock? Also, who would hunt down a supersoldier that has no purpose since there is no longer a threat? And the Ark exploded, for good. No portal opening ever. The Chief is dead, and you cannot bring him back, except in crappy stories written by thirteen year olds. Or, since Activision is in charge of the Microsoft Halo projects now, he isn't coming back unless Soap punches a hole in space-time with his bionic ice-picks and rescues the Chief with a vacuum-proof wetsuit because Activision needs another stupid-overpowered character to fuel a half-baked Tom Clancy rip-off of a story.
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  •  07-31-2010, 3:18 PM 910813 in reply to 910811

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    Microsoft owns all rights to Halo not Bungie, so therefore Bungie can't make it without permission. If for some reason Bungie did make Halo 4 it would be published by Microsoft Game Studios. So please dont put Activision and Halo the same sentence.
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  •  07-31-2010, 3:27 PM 910818 in reply to 910813

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    spacefire:Microsoft owns all rights to Halo not Bungie, so therefore Bungie can't make it without permission. If for some reason Bungie did make Halo 4 it would be published by Microsoft Game Studios. So please dont put Activision and Halo the same sentence.
    They own Bungie now. Activision bought it with their ill-gotten CoDMW2 money that they stole from 13-year-old kids by selling fifteen dollar, three-part map packs.

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  •  07-31-2010, 3:28 PM 910821 in reply to 910818

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    xXCrocmonXx:
    spacefire:Microsoft owns all rights to Halo not Bungie, so therefore Bungie can't make it without permission. If for some reason Bungie did make Halo 4 it would be published by Microsoft Game Studios. So please dont put Activision and Halo the same sentence.
    They own Bungie now. Activision bought it with their ill-gotten CoDMW2 money that they stole from 13-year-old kids by selling fifteen dollar, three-part map packs.
    You didn't even read what he wrote.  Microsoft owns the rights, not Bungie.
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  •  07-31-2010, 3:32 PM 910823 in reply to 910811

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    xXCrocmonXx:

    Okay, people here seem to have the notion that Halo 4 (Activision is in charge of it, btw because they bought Bungie or something like that) will include Master Chief. However, this is not true. The man is dead. Take a hammer, put a post-it note with the previous sentence written on it, and beat your face in until you see skull fragments on the hammer. The Chief is gone, dead, never coming back EVER. I will explain the top five reasons as to why below:

    343 all but confirmed halo 4.  And it would be published by M$, not activison 

    1) Faster Than Light Communication - FTL Comms would be in the front of the ship since we know how the UNSC design their ships. That means the Chief's beacon would be like shooting an AM radio wave from Mars to Earth: three days to traverse that distance. From outside the galaxy to Earth? Centuries. Rescue's not coming in 'years, even.' Cortana will have unraveled her own coding and gone straight-up Mendicant Bias by that time and blown the ship up in a fit of AI-PMS.

    No one said he had to be rescued.  He can fend for himself 

    2) Powered Cryo Tube - The reactor in the back-end of the ship is probably on low reserves, considering the fact that the Forward Unto Dawn was running during the entire course of Halo 3, shooting things, landing in atmosphere, and avoiding getting blown to all Hell, which means it's either out of fuel by the time it gets lopped in half or it's almost out of it. That means the pod he's sitting in only has at the most a few years of life in it. And when it powers off, he's screwed.

    The reactor can power itself to keep on going,  otherwise all UNSC ships would die after a while.  The entire system powers itself.

    3) Starvation - He's in the middle of space. The closest planet is a Forerunner world that got blown the Hell up, and if the fly-over of it in Halo: Origins was canon, it's a barren planet that's devoid of anything except an atmosphere and metal. What's the Chief going to do? Evolve to eat steel, space-rock, and somehow drink the moisture in the air? Impossible. He's done.

    He in a CRYO tube.  Body processes are slowed down to near zero, so he doesn't need food 

    4)  Traveling Outside The Galaxy - The portal was destroyed when the Halo on the Ark blew up. That's what sliced the ship in half. The Humans don't have the resources to hunt down the greatest supersoldier who would only return without a purpose and then grab an AI that significantly shortened its own lifespan and has probably gone insane. The Elites sure as Hell wouldn't look for him, they just barely respected him during the events of Halo 3. And besides, it isn't like they knew the limits of their ships in the first place: the ships looked fancy and could outclass UNSC ships, but the Covenant just reverse engineered and jury-rigged Forerunner tech into their ships. They couldn't make a jump to outside of the galaxy at random.

    He could still be in the galaxy.  The portal could've dropped him off somewhere. 

    5)  Reconstructing the 'Ark Portal' is Impossible - When the Halo fired, obviously some of it went through the portal. Otherwise, it wouldn't have closed. This probably obliterated one or both ends of the portal. This means that both openings of the portal (a portal/wormhole works like telephone, in layman's terms) would be disconnected from the center point they would connect at. Thus, it reopening would not be possible before the Chief died out. Considering the front half of the Forward Unto Dawn fell into water in the cutscene, that means the Relic Site is probably filled back up with water by now, or otherwise destroyed with water on top. Or we could say the front half managed to get enough momentum to carry it to the oceans nearby, but still. The Relic site is almost definitely done for, and if it isn't, the Ark sure as Hell is. For a controlled wormhole to open, you'd need two points that could generate that spacial rift. If one end is gone, the wormhole will either open up somewhere random or not function at all. I doubt even an army of Huragok Engineers could fix that.

    Why does he need to reconstruct it?

    So, to put it shortly: the Chief is dead due to the fact that FTL Comms are out of the question. He's also dead due to the fact that the Cryo Tube will run out of power before the beacon is received by any civilization in existence. And when the tube dies, what the Hell is he gonna eat? Space rock? Also, who would hunt down a supersoldier that has no purpose since there is no longer a threat? And the Ark exploded, for good. No portal opening ever. The Chief is dead, and you cannot bring him back, except in crappy stories written by thirteen year olds. Or, since Activision is in charge of the Microsoft Halo projects now, he isn't coming back unless Soap punches a hole in space-time with his bionic ice-picks and rescues the Chief with a vacuum-proof wetsuit because Activision needs another stupid-overpowered character to fuel a half-baked Tom Clancy rip-off of a story.

    So, to put it shortly: you know very little about the haloverse and assume too much of it is the same as other games.


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  •  07-31-2010, 3:34 PM 910827 in reply to 910821

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    DFang:
    xXCrocmonXx:
    spacefire:Microsoft owns all rights to Halo not Bungie, so therefore Bungie can't make it without permission. If for some reason Bungie did make Halo 4 it would be published by Microsoft Game Studios. So please dont put Activision and Halo the same sentence.
    They own Bungie now. Activision bought it with their ill-gotten CoDMW2 money that they stole from 13-year-old kids by selling fifteen dollar, three-part map packs.
    You didn't even read what he wrote.  Microsoft owns the rights, not Bungie.
    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Bungie

    Scroll down to 'New Partnership.' Publishers generally take the whip to their developers, which means Activision is calling the shots for ten years. What's that mean? Soap with bionic ice-picks and a vacuum-proof wetsuit to come save the Chief. That's what it means.


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  •  07-31-2010, 3:38 PM 910829 in reply to 910827

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    xXCrocmonXx:

    DFang:
    xXCrocmonXx:
    spacefire:Microsoft owns all rights to Halo not Bungie, so therefore Bungie can't make it without permission. If for some reason Bungie did make Halo 4 it would be published by Microsoft Game Studios. So please dont put Activision and Halo the same sentence.
    They own Bungie now. Activision bought it with their ill-gotten CoDMW2 money that they stole from 13-year-old kids by selling fifteen dollar, three-part map packs.
    You didn't even read what he wrote.  Microsoft owns the rights, not Bungie.
    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Bungie

    Scroll down to 'New Partnership.' Publishers generally take the whip to their developers, which means Activision is calling the shots for ten years. What's that mean? Soap with bionic ice-picks and a vacuum-proof wetsuit to come save the Chief. That's what it means.

    First of all wiki is not a good source, and I will say it again Microsoft owns the rights to the Halo series so Activison will never publish a Halo game unless Microsoft sells them the rights which is slim to none.

     "On April 29, 2010, Bungie entered an exclusive 10-year partnership with Activision which will have exclusive, worldwide rights to publish and distribute all future Bungie games based on the new intellectual property on multiple platforms and devices. Bungie will remain as an independent company and will continue to own their intellectual property"

     


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  •  07-31-2010, 3:41 PM 910832 in reply to 910823

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    DFang:A light breakdown and a failed attempt to shoot down the OP
    I know a whole lot about the Haloverse. I've read all of the books (save Contact: Harvest and the one with Gray Team). The universal laws of physics are closely adhered to in Halo, which means regular physics-geeking will serve me well. Also, you're addressing each paragraph individually to make yourself look smart. If you were as smart as you're seeming, you would notice that each point is taken in an order. The Chief first shoots the beacon, then I explain why that's not going to save him. Then the powered cryo tube, which will run out of juice eventually. And if it doesn't, he's going to need to get out eventually or atrophy will kick in and he'll be a vegetable when he actually does wake up. When he does get out, what is he going to do to sustain himself; nothing (hence the space rock comment). Also, since he's outside of the galaxy (or as I edited, in some pocket of slipspace), who the Hell is going to go that far to get him when both sides of the main conflict are rebuilding practically from scratch?

    DFang:Why does he need to reconstruct it?

    If you were paying attention, I didn't say he needed to. I'm saying it's impossible to do, since it's gone. Nothing can fix it without lots of time and humans advancing to the Forerunner's stage of technology first. And that definitely isn't going to happen before the Chief meets his demise, since humanity is practically reduced to one planet again. I really doubt an army of Huragoks (Covenant Engineers) could repair the Relic.

    DFang:To put it shortly, I barely read the topic opening post and just skimmed it thinking that's all I'd need to know because I'm convinced xXCrocmonXx is a retard.

    I fixed your cute comment btw.


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  •  07-31-2010, 3:43 PM 910833 in reply to 910829

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    spacefire:
    xXCrocmonXx:

    DFang:
    xXCrocmonXx:
    spacefire:Microsoft owns all rights to Halo not Bungie, so therefore Bungie can't make it without permission. If for some reason Bungie did make Halo 4 it would be published by Microsoft Game Studios. So please dont put Activision and Halo the same sentence.
    They own Bungie now. Activision bought it with their ill-gotten CoDMW2 money that they stole from 13-year-old kids by selling fifteen dollar, three-part map packs.
    You didn't even read what he wrote.  Microsoft owns the rights, not Bungie.
    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Bungie

    Scroll down to 'New Partnership.' Publishers generally take the whip to their developers, which means Activision is calling the shots for ten years. What's that mean? Soap with bionic ice-picks and a vacuum-proof wetsuit to come save the Chief. That's what it means.

    First of all wiki is not a good source, and I will say it again Microsoft owns the rights to the Halo series so Activison will never publish a Halo game unless Microsoft sells them the rights which is slim to none.

     "On April 29, 2010, Bungie entered an exclusive 10-year partnership with Activision which will have exclusive, worldwide rights to publish and distribute all future Bungie games based on the new intellectual property on multiple platforms and devices. Bungie will remain as an independent company and will continue to own their intellectual property"

    Alright, fine. You win this one. I'm not even going to mention that 'new intellectual property' is vague, and an IP is generally not an entire franchise, but small parts of it. I'll let you have that one, anyways.


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  •  07-31-2010, 4:00 PM 910842 in reply to 910833

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    xXCrocmonXx:

    Alright, fine. You win this one. I'm not even going to mention that 'new intellectual property' is vague, and an IP is generally not an entire franchise, but small parts of it. I'll let you have that one, anyways.

    Thanks :)


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  •  07-31-2010, 4:17 PM 910849 in reply to 910811

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    Bungie themselves said that they made the ending like they did as they were planning on making a Halo 4. So whatever you've just said doesn't matter. But lets pretend it does.

    xXCrocmonXx:

    1) Faster Than Light Communication - FTL Comms would be in the front of the ship since we know how the UNSC design their ships. That means the Chief's beacon would be like shooting an AM radio wave from Mars to Earth: three days to traverse that distance. From outside the galaxy to Earth? Centuries. Rescue's not coming in 'years, even.' Cortana will have unraveled her own coding and gone straight-up Mendicant Bias by that time and blown the ship up in a fit of AI-PMS.

     

    I don't see why Cortana couldn't just shut herself down to stop herself going rampant and power-up sporadically to check if everythings ok, or power up if a sensor detects something. Or if for some reason this isn't allowed by canon just set herself to permeantly shut down after a few years when she predicts she'll of gone rampant. Also since the portal to the Ark was on Earth, I'd expect that there'd probably be something on the planet cheif passes quantumly entangled to something on Earth

    2) Powered Cryo Tube - The reactor in the back-end of the ship is probably on low reserves, considering the fact that the Forward Unto Dawn was running during the entire course of Halo 3, shooting things, landing in atmosphere, and avoiding getting blown to all Hell, which means it's either out of fuel by the time it gets lopped in half or it's almost out of it. That means the pod he's sitting in only has at the most a few years of life in it. And when it powers off, he's screwed.

    The power of those ships could only possibly be produced by fusion, an 100% efficent fusion reactor could power the Earth for years with barely no fuel at all and the ship could easily refuel itself, deuterium used in fusion reactor is abundant in the universe.

    3) Starvation - He's in the middle of space. The closest planet is a Forerunner world that got blown the Hell up, and if the fly-over of it in Halo: Origins was canon, it's a barren planet that's devoid of anything except an atmosphere and metal. What's the Chief going to do? Evolve to eat steel, space-rock, and somehow drink the moisture in the air? Impossible. He's done.

    I don't see why he'd need to eat if hes in cyro.. But lets say he does, drinking moisture in air.. cool air down to get water.. I'm sure the advanced space ship hes in has the ability to cool things down so the water condensates. Not to mention I'd expect a spaceship to just have a molecular sieve. How did they get food for the crew of the ship before? Surely theres a plant or something onboard the ship that can grow food?

    4)  Traveling Outside The Galaxy - The portal was destroyed when the Halo on the Ark blew up. That's what sliced the ship in half. The Humans don't have the resources to hunt down the greatest supersoldier who would only return without a purpose and then grab an AI that significantly shortened its own lifespan and has probably gone insane. The Elites sure as Hell wouldn't look for him, they just barely respected him during the events of Halo 3. And besides, it isn't like they knew the limits of their ships in the first place: the ships looked fancy and could outclass UNSC ships, but the Covenant just reverse engineered and jury-rigged Forerunner tech into their ships. They couldn't make a jump to outside of the galaxy at random.

    Why does the chief need to get back to Earth? Not to mention he's in previously unexplored space, whos to say there aren't other very advanced aliens there that could just fly him back?

    5)  Reconstructing the 'Ark Portal' is Impossible - When the Halo fired, obviously some of it went through the portal. Otherwise, it wouldn't have closed. This probably obliterated one or both ends of the portal. This means that both openings of the portal (a portal/wormhole works like telephone, in layman's terms) would be disconnected from the center point they would connect at.If you stick your hand through a doorway (which is what that portal was) and the doorway closes with enough force to slice a spaceship in half, your hand will be on the other side of that doorway, and where the doorway sliced through will be representing all the distance the portal would have bypassed. Sure, stabilized wormholes work like telephones in a sense, but if a stabilized wormhole were to close when your hand would push through it, your hand would get lopped off and dropped at the exit point and you'd be standing in the entry point. The chunk between the severed hand and your arm would not be in a magical between world. And if it did collapse as he went through it, he wouldn't be anywhere in explored space - the Ark's solar system or otherwise. He'd be in a pocket of slipspace, completely separated from all means of communication. Thus, it reopening would not be possible before the Chief died out. Considering the front half of the Forward Unto Dawn fell into water in the cutscene, that means the Relic Site is probably filled back up with water by now, or otherwise destroyed with water on top. Or we could say the front half managed to get enough momentum to carry it to the oceans nearby, but still. The Relic site is almost definitely done for, and if it isn't, the Ark sure as Hell is. For a controlled wormhole to open, you'd need two points that could generate that spacial rift. If one end is gone, the wormhole will either open up somewhere random or not function at all. I doubt even an army of Huragok Engineers could fix that.

     

    I don't understand.. Why does the chief need to reconstruct the portal? And whos to say thats the only portal? The humans only discovered the ark pretty much when it was used.. Theres no reason to say the forerunners didn't build more portals.

     Also the chief isn't dead.. He's not even born for 500ish years.

  •  07-31-2010, 4:23 PM 910850 in reply to 910842

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    I see you guys have already gone over the fact the Microsoft owns Halo so I won't get into that.

    But the rest of this "evidence" is based off assumptions and educated guesses. You can't say for sure that Master Chief will die nor can you say he will live. But with 343 Studios announcing they're going to continue Master Chief's story it doesn't seem like any of this can be taken into consideration.

    It's likely they're going to have some ship that was magically in the sector where Forward unto Dawn exited the portal and have them saved within a few months to a year. Or even a leftover Covenant vessel was passing by and investigated.

    343 can truthfully do whatever they want. We can only hope that the ex-Bungie employees residing there have enough of a head on their shoulders to keep the story straight.


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  •  07-31-2010, 4:33 PM 910852 in reply to 910849

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    jackalo:

     

    Bungie themselves said that they made the ending like they did as they were planning on making a Halo 4. So whatever you've just said doesn't matter. But lets pretend it does.

    xXCrocmonXx:

    I don't see why Cortana couldn't just shut herself down to stop herself going rampant and power-up sporadically to check if everythings ok, or power up if a sensor detects something. Or if for some reason this isn't allowed by canon just set herself to permeantly shut down after a few years when she predicts she'll of gone rampant.

    An AI wouldn't be able to predict when it goes rampant. Rampancy is a slow and very painless process. It's like going mad, you won't realize you're insane until someone breaks it to you. An example is Isaac Clarke, but I don't think comparing another game's canon would convince you even though that's a basic example to a human mind at work (which is what an AI is).

    The power of those ships could only possibly be produced by fusion, an 100% efficent fusion reactor could power the Earth for years with barely no fuel at all and the ship could easily refuel itself, deuterium used in fusion reactor is abundant in the universe.

    Lookie here! We know how a fusion reactor works. However, the humans wouldn't have made 100% efficient fusion reactors. That's Forerunner tech. And since the ship is cut -in half- there's no way it can refuel itself, as the maintenance bots are in the -front- of the ship that crashed on Earth.

    I don't see why he'd need to eat if hes in cyro.. But lets say he does, drinking moisture in air.. cool air down to get water.. I'm sure the advanced space ship hes in has the ability to cool things down so the water condensates. Not to mention I'd expect a spaceship to just have a molecular sieve. How did they get food for the crew of the ship before? Surely theres a plant or something onboard the ship that can grow food?

    Cryo slows down processes, not completely stops them. He'd need nutrients after a while, because he'd have to get out every so often or his muscles would deteriorate from not being used for years on end and then he'd be a vegetated supersoldier that can't lift his arm up much less float in zero-gravity. And the hydroponics plant would almost definitely work in a vacuum, wouldn't it? The ship has no atmosphere.

    Why does the chief need to get back to Earth? Not to mention he's in previously unexplored space, whos to say there aren't other very advanced aliens there that could just fly him back?

    There is no life outside of the galaxy. The galaxies are the centers of civilization, and between them is emptiness. No stars, no planets, nothing. Nothing but cosmic radiation and space-dust.

    I don't understand.. Why does the chief need to reconstruct the portal? And whos to say thats the only portal? The humans only discovered the ark pretty much when it was used.. Theres no reason to say the forerunners didn't build more portals.

    HE WOULD NOT BE THE ONE TO RECONSTRUCT IT. THE PEOPLE ON EARTH WOULD BE. YOU ARE THE SECOND PERSON TO SAY THIS AND TO GET THE SAME ANSWER. READ THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE ADDING YOUR TWO CENTS.

     Also the chief isn't dead.. He's not even born for 500ish years.

    And the Chief is dead in the story. There is no way possible (unless Microsoft makes Bungie pull a fan-fic move by making the portal restabilize somehow) that he is returning in any way, shape, or form. Wake up: he's as good as dead.

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  •  07-31-2010, 4:40 PM 910855 in reply to 910850

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    tmspartan:

    I see you guys have already gone over the fact the Microsoft owns Halo so I won't get into that.

    But the rest of this "evidence" is based off assumptions and educated guesses. You can't say for sure that Master Chief will die nor can you say he will live. But with 343 Studios announcing they're going to continue Master Chief's story it doesn't seem like any of this can be taken into consideration.

    Um, if we talk like this we can decide whether or not the story is going to be worth continuing, and since Microsoft only knows how to milk things for money it's obvious that any game continuing the Chief's story won't be worth buying.

    It's likely they're going to have some ship that was magically in the sector where Forward unto Dawn exited the portal and have them saved within a few months to a year. Or even a leftover Covenant vessel was passing by and investigated.

    Not. Possible. At. All. The Ring firing obliterated all life at the Ark: Flood, Brute, Elite, Human, otherwise. The Chief magically survived somehow I'm imagining because he had Forerunner Fairy Dust in his suit.

    343 can truthfully do whatever they want. We can only hope that the ex-Bungie employees residing there have enough of a head on their shoulders to keep the story straight.

    They can, of course, but bringing the Chief back is impossible when he's stuck outside of the galaxy. Unless they want to have him come back and show up and indulge on being a celebrity for a few years before they realize he's useless since the Covenant aren't a threat to humanity anymore.

    He is dead. Not coming back. Snap from your fantasy world: he is a Spartan, and all the Spartans in the story have died except for the ones on Onyx, and they're as good as gone because they are just going to procreate in that shield world while the rest of the galaxy struggles to recover from the Human-Covenant War.

    Arbiter = <3
    hangingbaskets:
    off topic,

    but vampires are a great counter to canister tanks
  •  07-31-2010, 4:43 PM 910856 in reply to 910852

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:

     

    Bungie themselves said that they made the ending like they did as they were planning on making a Halo 4. So whatever you've just said doesn't matter. But lets pretend it does.

    xXCrocmonXx:

    An AI wouldn't be able to predict when it goes rampant. Rampancy is a slow and very painless process. It's like going mad, you won't realize you're insane until someone breaks it to you. An example is Isaac Clarke, but I don't think comparing another game's canon would convince you even though that's a basic example to a human mind at work (which is what an AI is)

    AI in halo canon go rampant on average every 7 years? My TV can set itself to turn itself off after a certain amount of time, Cortana can do that while she is still sane.

    Lookie here! We know how a fusion reactor works. However, the humans wouldn't have made 100% efficient fusion reactors. That's Forerunner tech. And since the ship is cut -in half- there's no way it can refuel itself, as the maintenance bots are in the -front- of the ship that crashed on Earth.

     There is absolutly no reason it would need to be refueled. A fusion reactor thats even workable at all could keep going without refueling for an incredible time. And if for some reason it did, cortana can just tell the chief how to do it. The technology in fission reactors we have now ( a lot worse than fusion reactors are predicted to be) could power cities for years and could easily fit inside a space ship the size of forward unto dawn. All this reactor needs to power is 1 individual cyro pod and an AI.

    Cryo slows down processes, not completely stops them. He'd need nutrients after a while, because he'd have to get out every so often or his muscles would deteriorate from not being used for years on end and then he'd be a vegetated supersoldier that can't lift his arm up much less float in zero-gravity. And the hydroponics plant would almost definitely work in a vacuum, wouldn't it? The ship has no atmosphere.

     Land.

    Why does the chief need to get back to Earth? Not to mention he's in previously unexplored space, whos to say there aren't other very advanced aliens there that could just fly him back?

    There is no life outside of the galaxy. The galaxies are the centers of civilization, and between them is emptiness. No stars, no planets, nothing. Nothing but cosmic radiation and space-dust.

    He passes a planet, therefore he is clearly not outside of the galaxy just on the edge of it.

    HE WOULD NOT BE THE ONE TO RECONSTRUCT IT. THE PEOPLE ON EARTH WOULD BE. YOU ARE THE SECOND PERSON TO SAY THIS AND TO GET THE SAME ANSWER. READ THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE ADDING YOUR TWO CENTS.

    I didn't say he would. I said why would he need the ark to be reconstructed to stay alive?

    And the Chief is dead in the story. There is no way possible (unless Microsoft makes Bungie pull a fan-fic move by making the portal restabilize somehow) that he is returning in any way, shape, or form. Wake up: he's as good as dead.

    Bungie said that they made the ending as they did because they were planning at the time to continue Halo.

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