studmuffin: Buster Nzl: II Ethics II:yea I didnt doubt my 1v1 list could be a bit of due to lack of experience. I think alot of the reason why noone has gotten high TS with him is because everyone back in the day would just use anders instead. Not to mention the first 4 mins of the game he is just trying to buy back his heavy supply pads.
On paper it seems like he's great, but when you relise the one and ONLY thing you can do bstter is build turrets ... it gets hard. Inf are terrible since you can't get the T3 upgrades on hook maps, Hogs are still good but .... 800 for Gauss ? and theres no point expanding unlike Cutter, and no elephant at the start either.
Vs UNSC he fails when it comes to spartan tanks, since Cutter doesn't slow his build for a Barracks, and Anders has gremlins + cheaper spartan upgrades, if it ever gets to T3 Anders get NIP and Canister faster, so she can push on your base and force you to use wosre units which you can't even replace !
It's also a common mis-conception that forge has more money ... he has less money since if he wants any early units he has to pause his build. And cutter and anders expand better so he ends up very far behind, If his HSP's cost 200 res he'd STILL be worse.
Rant/
800 for guass isn tto bad on maps like BG on BG you can get guass VERY fast with a decent amount of hogs nad japenese forges seem to get guass very fast and guass is mainly for covie anyway or if you need anti air, he can also get a advanced reactor easier and in the long run wins and spartanks are easily gotten with forge, it's all about makes alot of use of your spartans and good use of infantry
Advanced reactors don't matter, Anders and Cutter can buy a 2nd base, and put a 3rd reactor on it for the same price. So can Forge, but he has bad map control normally, so it can be hard to keep it.
Anders can get Gauss before 4 mins on BG easily, Forge can't.
On BG Anders can go with 3 Hsp, forge also goes with 3 hsp ... advantage ? when anders gets Gauss, canister, NIP, and oh yeah GREMLINS.
It's easy to say " well forge doesn't do this that much worse .... but guess what ? its still worse, and he can do just a little worse and strrugle vs Covy, Know why ? Because anders still can strugle vs covy, and she's better in everyway (except turret spaming, which you don't need to do )
Forges big thing is going Gauss on Tundra + release with his expo + main with turrets on them, then 3x expanding without covy knowing, then hog spamming, because that way covy can't outbuilding damage you at all.