HOGS anyone?

Last post 11-21-2009, 8:36 PM by AC Matt Klassen. 34 replies.
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  •  11-16-2009, 10:30 PM 773128

    HOGS anyone?

    Why is it that people use scouts as a mainline unit?
    My wraiths should kill HAWKS and COBRAS and HUNTERS like a GRIZZLY CAN
  •  11-16-2009, 10:33 PM 773129 in reply to 773128

    Re: HOGS anyone?

    because it's a powerful units. 

    a unsc needs to tech hogs far map control anyways so teching them futher in the right situations is very useful.

    hogs are one of the most useful units in the game.

  •  11-16-2009, 10:38 PM 773131 in reply to 773128

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    cuz there good
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  •  11-16-2009, 10:57 PM 773136 in reply to 773131

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    Why don't we just thow rocks at each other instead? Who needs hogs and guns and what-not?
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  •  11-16-2009, 11:09 PM 773141 in reply to 773136

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    DaRKSTaRxMeRC:Why don't we just thow rocks at each other instead? Who needs hogs and guns and what-not?
    the big rocks are overpowered though.
  •  11-17-2009, 1:18 AM 773166 in reply to 773131

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    They do work, son.
    I 4 shot with both my BR and my MAC.
  •  11-17-2009, 3:43 AM 773181 in reply to 773128

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    Cuz they work?

    My golden rule when using Cutter is to spam Gauss Hogs if the other side even LOOKS half competent.  A few exceptions would be with the Arbiter or if there's more than 1 Forge.

    They soft counter air, they completely destroy buildings, and they're excellent against other light vehicles as well(contrary to what people say, Gauss Hogs WILL rape Wolverines).  Well would you look at that!  They do exactly what infantry are supposed to do(but they don't)!

    On top of that, they will analrape 2 of the 3 covenant leaders, they're almost impossible to hit with leader powers, and they have a reputation for raping their own counters(Hunters, Grunts, ODSTs, Wraiths). 

  •  11-17-2009, 4:47 AM 773185 in reply to 773181

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    I don't think gauss hogs rape hunters >_>
  •  11-17-2009, 5:23 AM 773186 in reply to 773129

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    Ptphhhhh

    No good players use hogs. 


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  •  11-17-2009, 5:29 AM 773187 in reply to 773186

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    MLGSneakyBeaver:

    Ptphhhhh

    No good players use hogs. 

    Every strat I do with Cutter involves hogs. I guess being in the best category is good though.


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  •  11-17-2009, 6:15 AM 773193 in reply to 773187

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    At this point, the only real changes needed to make Hogs balanced are the correction being made the Hunter(so that it can actually hit them), and a decrease of damage multiplier that Gauss deals vs. Buildings from 0.6 to 0.4.  Doing so would decrease Gauss Hog building DPS from 200 or so to 150 or so, whereupon it would not dominate other units at building fighting.

    That is necessary, because as it is, thanks to Hogs running circles around everything that isn't a Banshee, even if the opponent builds a mess of Scorpions, the Hogs can simply avoid them and wreck the Scorpion player's base instead, then either win outright if the opponent can't rebuild their base, and through attrition if they can.  It doesn't help that it is far easier to kill Scorpion production (kill the vehicle depot or reactors) than Hog production (kill the central Base building).  Or you can replace the word "Scorpion" with any other unit in the game, for that matter.

  •  11-17-2009, 7:34 AM 773202 in reply to 773128

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    Fahres2465:Why is it that people use scouts as a mainline unit?

    Early map control and harassment, easy to spam from multiple bases, good against many units and leaders, they are good support units sometimes and they are easy to micro. Why not use them?


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  •  11-17-2009, 8:17 AM 773204 in reply to 773202

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    Even a small number of veteran tanks can wipe the floor with gauss hog spams:

    http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/773188.aspx 


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  •  11-17-2009, 9:06 AM 773206 in reply to 773204

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    I use uber units for scouting. But that's just me.

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  •  11-17-2009, 9:25 AM 773211 in reply to 773204

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    hangingbaskets:

    Even a small number of veteran tanks can wipe the floor with gauss hog spams:

    As I stated before, it doesn't matter in the slightest.  The Hogs will simply wreck your base the second you leave it.  You will never a chance to get Cobra/Wolverine grids up, and you will never get a chance to get Spartanks their veteran stars, let alone upgrade them to Grizzlies.

    See, the Hogs don't grant total military superiority anymore now that they got weakened vs. heavy vehicles, but they still grant map control.  You can't get new bases, because the Hogs will wreck them, or wreck your old base, or snipe a spartank and the spartan within, or otherwise cause trouble.  Hogs production is cheaper and harder to disrupt, and Hogs can choose when and where to fight pretty much freely.

    Though honestly, no one seems to Hog rush or Gauss spam anymore, mainly because its too obvious, and moreover, because now the burden of skill is in their turf.  I usually beat the Hogs, Gauss or otherwise, regardless, because they don't pull away quickly enough, resulting in them taking a ton of losses vs. Scorpions, once Cobras/Wolverines get out in decent numbers, its over for Anders Hog/Hornet assaults.
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