buff wraiths they need it so bad i just compared there stats to scorpions

 

scorpions do 170 dps with both machine gun and main gun so thats 340dps

 

wraiths do 110 with there plasma mortar and 60 with the plasma cannon thats 170 combined add on shield upgrade which is most lickly to be fighting scrops and you get you 212 dps compared to the scorpions 370. you also have to factor in the fact that scorpions hardly ever miss with the main cannon while a wraith cant hit a base to save its life. 

 

dps for wraiths at each upgrade(note how plasma modulator does less dps then a standard tank)

none-170

shield 212.5

scorch-265.625

plasma modulator-332.03

 

dps for tanks

normal-340

canister-340(no damange multiplier is added but we all know how powerful canister is)

pt-425

 

id sugest upgrading wraiths plasma mortar to to 150 dps

and the turret to do 80 

 

video showing scorpions own wraiths

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21CQgHNlQSE

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crusaderking:

Tomanater is like a supply elevator. nuff said.

Does that mean that they have to make them basically equal to the Scorpion, tech and cost-wise?...

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My name is Legion, for we are many...

And out of the smoke, Locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth...

plasma modulator is worse then a standard tank. thats just not right

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crusaderking:

Tomanater is like a supply elevator. nuff said.

No, it's awful I know. But if they were to make Wraiths on par with Scorpians wouldn't that make them OP because of their cost is lower and with Shield of the Forerunners etc? Trying to be the Devils Advocate here, sorry...

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My name is Legion, for we are many...

And out of the smoke, Locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth...

i didnt suggest making them on par i suggested giving them a 230 dps base combined between the mortar and turret. thats 110 less then the scorpion and remember wraiths miss more then a blind guy shooting baskets. 

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crusaderking:

Tomanater is like a supply elevator. nuff said.

Being able to finally see the stats was great, and I was a bit bummed too seeing how weak Wraiths are compared to tanks.

But I really don't think T3 Wraiths will lose to a T2 tank. Maybe you didn't factor in health boosts or something?

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wraiths are ridiculously UP. anyone who disagrees is just stupid

MasterWu:

Being able to finally see the stats was great, and I was a bit bummed too seeing how weak Wraiths are compared to tanks.

But I really don't think T3 Wraiths will lose to a T2 tank. Maybe you didn't factor in health boosts or something?

wraiths out health tanks a bit thanks to the shield, but no where near how much tanks out damage tanks, and tanks hardly ever miss.

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crusaderking:

Tomanater is like a supply elevator. nuff said.

Tomanater00:wraiths out health tanks a bit thanks to the shield, but no where near how much tanks out damage tanks, and tanks hardly ever miss.

I don't think tanks ever miss because of their light speed cannon shot combined with the constant machine gun. But Wraiths, yeah, miss as much as Shaq does...

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My name is Legion, for we are many...

And out of the smoke, Locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth...

Tomanater00:

 

dps for wraiths at each upgrade(note how plasma modulator does less dps then a standard tank)

none-170                                                                                   hp 8550       

shield 212.5                                                                               hp 10687    shield 4488    = 15177

scorch-265.625                                                                           hp 12290    shield 5161  = 17451

plasma modulator-332.03                                                             hp 14133    sheild 5935   = 20068

 

dps for tanks

normal-340                                                                                                             hp 11807

canister-340(no damange multiplier is added but we all know how powerful canister is)  hp 14758

pt-425                                                                                                                     hp 18448

with hp now 

if wraiths could hit any thing a fully upgraded wraith would beat an un upgraded scorp

but a canister scorp in real combat would easily win

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dapperdanman:

Tomanater00:

 

dps for wraiths at each upgrade(note how plasma modulator does less dps then a standard tank)

none-170                                                                                   hp 8550       

shield 212.5                                                                               hp 10687    shield 4488    = 15177

scorch-265.625                                                                           hp 12290    shield 5161  = 17451

plasma modulator-332.03                                                             hp 14133    sheild 5935   = 20068

 

dps for tanks

normal-340                                                                                                             hp 11807

canister-340(no damange multiplier is added but we all know how powerful canister is)  hp 14758

pt-425                                                                                                                     hp 18448

if wraiths could hit any thing a fully upgraded wraith would beat an un upgraded scorp

but a canister scorp in real combat would easily win

yes the wraiths have more health but that get balanced by all the misses they do. 

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crusaderking:

Tomanater is like a supply elevator. nuff said.

Tomanater00:

dapperdanman:

Tomanater00:

 

dps for wraiths at each upgrade(note how plasma modulator does less dps then a standard tank)

none-170                                                                                   hp 8550       

shield 212.5                                                                               hp 10687    shield 4488    = 15177

scorch-265.625                                                                           hp 12290    shield 5161  = 17451

plasma modulator-332.03                                                             hp 14133    sheild 5935   = 20068

 

dps for tanks

normal-340                                                                                                             hp 11807

canister-340(no damange multiplier is added but we all know how powerful canister is)  hp 14758

pt-425                                                                                                                     hp 18448

if wraiths could hit any thing a fully upgraded wraith would beat an un upgraded scorp

but a canister scorp in real combat would easily win

yes the wraiths have more health but that get balanced by all the misses they do. 

scorpion normal  DPS against heavy armor

170 x1.3 =221

170 x .4 =68

 221+68 =289

canister   289

PT          361

wraith normal against heavy armor

110 x1.3 =143

60 x .4 =24

143 + 24= 167

shield    208

scorch   260

plasma modulator   326

but mian cannon misses about half the time so

normal 143/2  + 24 = 95

shield  119

scorch 149

plasma modulator 186

it will take an unup graded scorpion 20068/289 = about 69 seconds  to kill a fully upgraded wraith tank

in those 69 seconds a wraith tank will do 69 x 186 = 12834 damage which is greater than the scorpions tanks hp therefore a fully upgraded wraith tank will beat an un-upgraded scorpion (by a little)  this final caculation includes misses and excludes scorch

 

but yea wraith tanks could use a little buff (at least for later game play)

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U got to remember that the Wraith is 150 cheaper than a Scorpion.

What would win:

3 Wraiths - 1050 Cost

2 Scorpions - 1000 cost...

Yeah, I thought so...

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HingedWatch out:

U got to remember that the Wraith is 150 cheaper than a Scorpion.

What would win:

3 Wraiths - 1050 Cost

2 Scorpions - 1000 cost...

Yeah, I thought so...

3 fully upgraded wraiths could fairly easily loss to 2 canister tanks and would get slautered by two pt tanks

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