Anders vs Turrets

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  •  11-02-2009, 3:22 PM 763966

    Anders vs Turrets

    I was a Forge player, but i've converted to the dark side...

     

    I want to know what the best play for an Anders is when the opponent starts cranking turrets early in the game as a counter to hogs. Generally I rush with four gunner hogs as soon as possible, but lately I've hit a wall when the opponent puts up two turrets. What is the best move for Anders, since they have repelled the rush?

     My ideas, should I...

    Rush sooner (perhaps mix gremlins?) while they only have one turret?

    Rush later (again with gremlins to stun turrets)?

    Don't rush (boom) and go for map control (what if they're aren't hooks an early second base)?

    Don't rush, (turtle) and go straight away for upgrades?

     

    Or perhaps I'm on the wrong track entirely. Any advice would be awesome. I'm a pretty new Anders player and my microing skills or less than average for sure, but I'm working on them!

     

  •  11-02-2009, 3:24 PM 763972 in reply to 763966

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    the point of rushing in the first place is to make them get up tow turrets, they jsut did your dirty work for you without losing any of your hogs, now just do what you would normally do to get guass or whatever it is you wanted, now you have ample time to get out whatvwer you wanty and any hooks you want, congratz you auto win at this point.
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  •  11-02-2009, 3:25 PM 763974 in reply to 763966

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    If the opponent is going many early turrets--that's called turtling in case you dont know.  The thing you do for them is--you let them quite simply put haha.  You gotta get total map control---start taking every hook possible--he wont possibly be able to stand up to you.  Start taking out hooks with your hogs and send marines into them--heck send a spartan to a hook by himself and he'll kill them if you put him in it and run by the units.  Once you get a lot of tech and money (or whatever) from the hooks you start booming and expanding--best by him and then by yourself.  Boost up to T3 and get Gauss and Gremlins--send the hogs in first and take out what he's building and stun the turrets with the gremlins.  

    If they're building tanks, build more gremlins than gauss and if they're building air more guass than gremlins etc etc.


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  •  11-02-2009, 3:26 PM 763979 in reply to 763974

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    Make them put up two turrets. After they do go expand so you can double pump gremlins. :]
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  •  11-02-2009, 3:29 PM 763991 in reply to 763966

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    Verde Creed:

    I was a Forge player, but i've converted to the dark side...

     

    I want to know what the best play for an Anders is when the opponent starts cranking turrets early in the game as a counter to hogs. Generally I rush with four gunner hogs as soon as possible, but lately I've hit a wall when the opponent puts up two turrets. What is the best move for Anders, since they have repelled the rush?

     My ideas, should I...

    Rush sooner (perhaps mix gremlins?) while they only have one turret?

    Rush later (again with gremlins to stun turrets)?

    Don't rush (boom) and go for map control (what if they're aren't hooks an early second base)?

    Don't rush, (turtle) and go straight away for upgrades?

     

    Or perhaps I'm on the wrong track entirely. Any advice would be awesome. I'm a pretty new Anders player and my microing skills or less than average for sure, but I'm working on them!

     

    4x hsp on main base reactor on second base right away air pad and supply pad until enough for t3.

    tech up hornets and gremlins its a win


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  •  11-02-2009, 3:54 PM 764057 in reply to 763991

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    If he does double turrets, I'll take a couple hooks (if any) and then just save up to cryo glitch, lol.
  •  11-02-2009, 4:17 PM 764084 in reply to 764057

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    pizzaaddict8:If he does double turrets, I'll take a couple hooks (if any) and then just save up to cryo glitch, lol.
    this is the best thing to do even though it involves abusing a glitch
  •  11-02-2009, 5:01 PM 764142 in reply to 763972

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    studmuffin:congratz you auto win at this point.

    how can you say you "auto win" when you were complaining about losing to turtling forges?


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  •  11-02-2009, 6:00 PM 764200 in reply to 764142

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    Ronin 3000:

    studmuffin:congratz you auto win at this point.

    how can you say you "auto win" when you were complaining about losing to turtling forges?

    auto win if you not me, lol. I say it like it's easy to do when I cant even do it but really though a turtling forge is annoying for me, I liek to believe im givning them a hard time so try to attack with to little and it always ends up biting me in the ass, anyway it dosnt matter as I have only lost 5 times with anders and only twice to forge so it's not such a hge problem =/


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  •  11-02-2009, 6:17 PM 764219 in reply to 764200

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    gremlins stun turrets! then kill thier tanks with marines, after that you can just spam gunner hogs at him (don't bother getting more upgrades it wastes too much time). if he lives you should just resign and report him because he hacked, then send him messages of how much he sucks.

    I get banned for no reason
  •  11-02-2009, 7:37 PM 764302 in reply to 764219

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    Lol Fuhrer xD

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  •  11-02-2009, 11:37 PM 764599 in reply to 763966

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    Thank you very much for the advice. I came to the realization that:

    2 Turrets = 500 Resources

    1 Base = 500 Resources

     

    So, the last few games I play I harass until two turrets are up, and then I use the would be attackers to clear me a base. All the while securing map control. The free base is a great exchange for turrets, and I all but force a turtle. At that point almost anything will work as long as it's a mixed army!

     

  •  11-02-2009, 11:48 PM 764608 in reply to 763966

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    Verde Creed:

    I was a Forge player, but i've converted to the dark side...

     

    I want to know what the best play for an Anders is when the opponent starts cranking turrets early in the game as a counter to hogs. Generally I rush with four gunner hogs as soon as possible, but lately I've hit a wall when the opponent puts up two turrets. What is the best move for Anders, since they have repelled the rush?

     My ideas, should I...

    Rush sooner (perhaps mix gremlins?) while they only have one turret?

    Rush later (again with gremlins to stun turrets)?

    Don't rush (boom) and go for map control (what if they're aren't hooks an early second base)?

    Don't rush, (turtle) and go straight away for upgrades?

     

    Or perhaps I'm on the wrong track entirely. Any advice would be awesome. I'm a pretty new Anders player and my microing skills or less than average for sure, but I'm working on them!

     

    Aw, you should have stayed Forge....=(

    I do finew with Forge.


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  •  11-03-2009, 6:08 PM 765117 in reply to 764608

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    I have continued to use forged in 2v2 and 3v3, but for 1v1 I felt like I wanted to get faster than a 3 min tank rush, or even the infantry rushes I was using. So I went to what I felt was the fastest way to attack the opponent.
  •  11-03-2009, 6:14 PM 765121 in reply to 763966

    Re: Anders vs Turrets

    It's quite commen for a forge to do this. Get up a few gremlins to stun them if it's unsc unless they have a barracks up. If they are covenant than you have a huge advantage in economy and map control, so just gauss it up.
    http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/725028.aspx
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