Wraiths are crap.

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  •  10-30-2009, 12:19 PM 761309

    Wraiths are crap.

    Offensively speaking. They're useful for building damage or soaking up damage and that's it.

    This is irrefutable.

  •  10-30-2009, 12:23 PM 761310 in reply to 761309

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    B.S wraiths are amazing you just have to know how to use them.
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  •  10-30-2009, 12:25 PM 761311 in reply to 761309

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    Lurker:

    Offensively speaking. They're useful for building damage or soaking up damage and that's it.

    This is irrefutable.

    True, the only time I ever have luck using them is if I micro the hell out of them. Its sad how you have to have Plasma Mod and Shield of the Forerunners upgrade for them to even become useful.


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  •  10-30-2009, 12:27 PM 761313 in reply to 761309

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    Lurker:

    Offensively speaking. They're useful for building damage or soaking up damage and that's it.

    This is irrefutable.

    Wraiths have horrible building damage.


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  •  10-30-2009, 12:52 PM 761327 in reply to 761313

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    Well wraiths suck vs vehicles if your opponent is any way decent-their plasma mortar is very easy to dodge. its ironic cos wraiths are supposed to counter hogs
  •  10-30-2009, 12:52 PM 761328 in reply to 761313

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    Here is a break down of why I don't understand how Wraiths suck compared to Scorpians(Grizzlies & Spartans not included).

    Wraith Cost $350, first upgrade $200, second upgrade $400, third upgrade $700, Shield upgrade $500 = $2150

    Scorpians Cost $500, first upgrade $400, second upgrade $900 = $1800

    All upgrades including initial cost of unit comes up to more then Scorpians but they still lose in a straight up fight. Even without the shield upgrade there is only a difference of $150. The only way to win a fight is to micro the Wraiths that lose their shields to the back of the pack while trying to use 3-4 tanks to scorch a Scorpian. Doing this constantly takes away from you being able to use your leader powers. While they the UNSC can drop their's quickly and get back into the fight in seconds.


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  •  10-30-2009, 12:58 PM 761331 in reply to 761328

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    Well sure, Wraiths vs Scorpians. Scorpians are going to take it. same goes for flamers vs beamers, marines vs grunts and so on and so on. The covenant have weaker units and therefore should battle earlier on to prevent the humans from teching up. Wraiths definately have uses they just arent the same as Scorpains.  Although they may seem like the same unit (a tank) they are really quite different
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  •  10-30-2009, 12:59 PM 761332 in reply to 761328

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    darkcrow321:

    Here is a break down of why I don't understand how Wraiths suck compared to Scorpians(Grizzlies & Spartans not included).

    Wraith Cost $350, first upgrade $200, second upgrade $400, third upgrade $700, Shield upgrade $500 = $2150

    Scorpians Cost $500, first upgrade $400, second upgrade $900 = $1800

    All upgrades including initial cost of unit comes up to more then Scorpians but they still lose in a straight up fight. Even without the shield upgrade there is only a difference of $150. The only way to win a fight is to micro the Wraiths that lose their shields to the back of the pack while trying to use 3-4 tanks to scorch a Scorpian. Doing this constantly takes away from you being able to use your leader powers. While they the UNSC can drop their's quickly and get back into the fight in seconds.

    Depends on who they are shooting. If they go for your leader, you don't have to micro your wraiths as much. If they go for your wraiths, try to kite and quick power. If your using PoR, beam works well. BC if enemy tank(s) are low hp(only one needs to be low) and Arby should rage away after canisters are used.


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  •  10-30-2009, 1:01 PM 761333 in reply to 761309

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    yea i never use them, why would you? to counter vehicle, hunters are alot better and have better building damage. to counter troops? make jackels
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  •  10-30-2009, 1:05 PM 761336 in reply to 761333

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    ANDERSPWNER10:yea i never use them, why would you? to counter vehicle, hunters are alot better and have better building damage. to counter troops? make jackels

    Mainly for Meatshields. Put 3-4 in front of your hunters or jackels for protection. I did kill a full pop of Wolves with them before but not before they killed my base = (


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  •  10-30-2009, 1:05 PM 761337 in reply to 761328

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    darkcrow321:

    Here is a break down of why I don't understand how Wraiths suck compared to Scorpians(Grizzlies & Spartans not included).

    Wraith Cost $350, first upgrade $200, second upgrade $400, third upgrade $700, Shield upgrade $500 = $2150

    Scorpians Cost $500, first upgrade $400, second upgrade $900 = $1800

    Most retarded math ever. Nobody builds only 1 Scorpion or Wraith, building Scorpions compared to Wraiths gets more expensive over time.


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  •  10-30-2009, 1:09 PM 761339 in reply to 761337

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    drugiS:
    darkcrow321:

    Here is a break down of why I don't understand how Wraiths suck compared to Scorpians(Grizzlies & Spartans not included).

    Wraith Cost $350, first upgrade $200, second upgrade $400, third upgrade $700, Shield upgrade $500 = $2150

    Scorpians Cost $500, first upgrade $400, second upgrade $900 = $1800

    Most retarded math ever. Nobody builds only 1 Scorpion or Wraith, building Scorpions compared to Wraiths gets more expensive over time.

    If one Wraith cannot go toe to toe with one Scorpian then the difference is greater when you have 9 vs 9. Hell, you could out number the scorpians by 1-2 wraiths and still lose.


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  •  10-30-2009, 1:13 PM 761342 in reply to 761339

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    darkcrow321:

    If one Wraith cannot go toe to toe with one Scorpian then the difference is greater when you have 9 vs 9. Hell, you could out number the scorpians by 1-2 wraiths and still lose.

    This is because they cost more. Also, Covenant get +10 population to balance things out.


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  •  10-30-2009, 1:18 PM 761343 in reply to 761342

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    drugiS:
    darkcrow321:

    If one Wraith cannot go toe to toe with one Scorpian then the difference is greater when you have 9 vs 9. Hell, you could out number the scorpians by 1-2 wraiths and still lose.

    This is because they cost more. Also, Covenant get +10 population to balance things out.

    I am not sure about others but I rarely get to full pop of anything for that to matter.


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  •  10-30-2009, 1:22 PM 761346 in reply to 761343

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    If you micro wraiths, you can take out grizzlies.  I have before and I use wraiths a lot in games. 

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