So I'll say it now, I don't want some forum fine gentleman saying 'umm dunno'.

My first game on my new ODST FiR3FiGhT account I hashed a Commander 1v1 and got 6000 points.

I sent suicide grunts to his base early game to take out reactors with other infantry. Confident that I would train more infantry (be a fine gentleman as I'm a no rank) he carried on with Grizzlies with the time I had I fully upgraded Vampires and Hunters and trained 7 of each. Also a scarab. I keep my vamps back as his first attack comes, 13 Grizzlies, my hunters go first then the scarab. I win. In the time it takes me to buy another couple hunters he set up Cobra's just out of sight of my base to kill the scarab. I send the hunters. I win. Then with just hunters which can't shoot air; he sends his Vulture and hornets, then come the Vamps. I win. And just to rub it in I march up the 2 Star scarab to his base. I win.

I know that's just one match and I'm an experienced and skilled player but I can't see any way Forge can beat the Covies.

Any ideas?

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Shove the gravity hammer up the Prophet's ***, then vortex it.

grizzlies + wolverines + upgraded carpet bomb will make a quickwork of anything you can do... forge totally can beat covies.

why wouldn't he be able to anyway? if he goes early air, you're screwed. you have no hard counter early game.

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zorgy:

grizzlies + wolverines + upgraded carpet bomb will make a quickwork of anything you can do... forge totally can beat covies.

why wouldn't he be able to anyway? if he goes early air, you're screwed. you have no hard counter early game.

With bad D-Bomb Arby can own air, also early turrets and ghosts are kay. And well obvs vampire dipsh*t

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Shove the gravity hammer up the Prophet's ***, then vortex it.

zorgy:

grizzlies + wolverines + upgraded carpet bomb will make a quickwork of anything you can do... forge totally can beat covies.

why wouldn't he be able to anyway? if he goes early air, you're screwed. you have no hard counter early game.

Vampires.

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Shove the gravity hammer up the Prophet's ***, then vortex it.

Easily. First of all, the mechanics of the game are slightly broken when playing UNSC vs Cov. The booming beats turtling beats rushing beats booming doesn't apply in UNSC vs Cov matches because even when forge is turtling he is still booming faster than any Cov can boom (unless you're on a map like blood gulch).

Also, Forge doesn't need to turtle, he can do early warthogs just as well. 

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forge can easily beat the covie, and surprisly by using early game advantage

there is the tanks rush, build order: SP,reactor, SP

after building that go collect resources and dont spend any money, once you get 500 que up another reactor and collect more resources once more not spending any money, now as soon as the second reactor almost up get rteady to que up a vehcile depot, now dont spend any money, at this point collecting resources is not nesscary, now once the depot is made make tank and you should have you first tank MADE in 3:10, and to rush just keep making them, you can have 2 tanks in 3:40 and I find that is ample time to rush the covie and cause some serious damage,

or there is also the power of air, likr hornets, the covie are hard pressed for money most the time, but as forge your not. They have to straight up 1000 dollars to get to tech 2 which is needed for anti-air and they are good against those meat-sheild wraiths

forge's leader power is great, microing is worthless against it, there is no sign that the carpet bomb is coming and it is spread out so they cant jsut run away at the last second.

also if you feel you will get rushed then make 2 SP's and a barracks, now make flamthrowers and spartans to jack possiable wraiths.

hope this helps?

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I think that he was unlucky/you were smart. He could just have easily have dont that play with his counter units.

I find that the Covie counter units are generally better than their UNSC counterparts. They can all be trained earlier, but they seem just as effective, if not more.

Sorry, a bit of topic, but yeah, if Forge goes 'smart-counter', he could beat a covie.

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Forge had to mix Flamers and Wolverines... 10 flamers + 10 wolverines kill 7 hunters and 7 vampires, then just concentrate fire on the Scarab. While he did that he shouldn't stop producing units as he loses them, that's the key with forge...

Sounds to me like you just came up against a bad Forge player, 13 Grizzlies and he hadn't attacked or scouted? Hell, i took out 2 UNSC players (Forge and Cutter) with about 8 Grizzlies, with a little help from my Covenant partner. Although he didn't last very long against ODST's when he was training grunts and hunters with 2 wraiths. But Forge is actually quite a good leader, he can take on the covenant quite easily.

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zorgy:

grizzlies + wolverines + upgraded carpet bomb will make a quickwork of anything you can do... forge totally can beat covies.

why wouldn't he be able to anyway? if he goes early air, you're screwed. you have no hard counter early game.

With bad D-Bomb Arby can own air, also early turrets and ghosts are kay. And well obvs vampire dipsh*t

learn to READ, dipsh*t. "EARLY game."

I have bolded the part you obviously didn't seem to get.  and just move your hornet over a cliff, the arby will instantly die.

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Forge is one of the best Leaders to counter Covenant with. Eco+Turrets+unit spam... Its all there with this guy.

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MODWOLFKING:

So I'll say it now, I don't want some forum fine gentleman saying 'umm dunno'.

My first game on my new ODST FiR3FiGhT account I hashed a Commander 1v1 and got 6000 points.

I sent suicide grunts to his base early game to take out reactors with other infantry. Confident that I would train more infantry (be a fine gentleman as I'm a no rank) he carried on with Grizzlies with the time I had I fully upgraded Vampires and Hunters and trained 7 of each. Also a scarab. I keep my vamps back as his first attack comes, 13 Grizzlies, my hunters go first then the scarab. I win. In the time it takes me to buy another couple hunters he set up Cobra's just out of sight of my base to kill the scarab. I send the hunters. I win. Then with just hunters which can't shoot air; he sends his Vulture and hornets, then come the Vamps. I win. And just to rub it in I march up the 2 Star scarab to his base. I win.

I know that's just one match and I'm an experienced and skilled player but I can't see any way Forge can beat the Covies.

Any ideas?

he must have sucked, 13 grizzlies can easily kill 7 hunters and then own your scarab. he can use a carpet on hunters, all hunters die within 10 sec and the concentrate on the scarab. scarab dies in 20 sec and your bases are next. he loses maybe 3 grizzlies in the whole attack.

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studmuffin:

forge can easily beat the covie, and surprisly by using early game advantage

there is the tanks rush, build order: SP,reactor, SP

after building that go collect resources and dont spend any money, once you get 500 que up another reactor and collect more resources once more not spending any money, now as soon as the second reactor almost up get rteady to que up a vehcile depot, now dont spend any money, at this point collecting resources is not nesscary, now once the depot is made make tank and you should have you first tank MADE in 3:10, and to rush just keep making them, you can have 2 tanks in 3:40 and I find that is ample time to rush the covie and cause some serious damage,

or there is also the power of air, likr hornets, the covie are hard pressed for money most the time, but as forge your not. They have to straight up 1000 dollars to get to tech 2 which is needed for anti-air and they are good against those meat-sheild wraiths

forge's leader power is great, microing is worthless against it, there is no sign that the carpet bomb is coming and it is spread out so they cant jsut run away at the last second.

also if you feel you will get rushed then make 2 SP's and a barracks, now make flamthrowers and spartans to jack possiable wraiths.

hope this helps?

i knew you'd put Thank you studmuffin. Your post is valued immensely. You're so predictable XD

Anyway forge can beat every covie leader if the person using him has half a brain

the only one imo that forge has trouble with is por but that depends

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