Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

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  •  04-26-2009, 3:51 PM 567329

    Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    You tell me how to counter this using the brute hero. Arbiter can't really counter it either. This is especially problematic on Chasms and blood gulch (teleporters speed up travel). Pirth outskirts is pretty bad too.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1b7DhHePTA

     

     

    I put the AI on automatic difficulty of 60 since the AI on legendary has more health than a normal human player would. It doesn't matter if this was a human player or not. I'm going to get to your base in a very short time period and there is no options for the brute to counter it. I did this strat all the time against real brute/arbiter players and it always worked.

     

    On chasms, the prophet can get to your base in 49 seconds (with 600+ resources to spare after demolishing your temple). Now it takes 32 seconds to construct a warehouse/temple. 32+32= 64 seconds, Prophet can get to your base in 49 seconds, do the math. Your second building will never get built.

     

    Now what are you supposed to do? You have 1 temple and zero resources. The PoR just destroyed your only resource. That means you will only have 2-300 resources and the prophet will just keep beaming them before they finish building. Since you don't get a full refund for pending buildings, you will eventually run out of $$$ while the prophet has atleast 4 warehouses fueling him. You can't really attack the prophet using your brute hero since it does almost no damage. You can't use the vortex since it will suck up the very few resources you have. You can't build brute warriors since you don't have enough resources. There is no options left. Your screwed.


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  •  04-26-2009, 3:59 PM 567339 in reply to 567329

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

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  •  04-26-2009, 4:03 PM 567353 in reply to 567339

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    I'm gonna try that.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:07 PM 567357 in reply to 567353

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    HEBushido:

    I'm gonna try that.

     

    the trick is to demolish your temple and then rebuild it later.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:11 PM 567359 in reply to 567357

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    Would this work against UNSC too?

    That's a really good idea though. If it gets popular, Robot will have to make a patch for it. They could make it so that your leader disappears when your temple is destroyed.

    Has anyone found a counter for this besides having an ally storm in? 


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:11 PM 567360 in reply to 567357

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    Are you sure the Brute Chieftain or Arbiter wouldn't kill your Prophet while you just focus on his buildings?

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  •  04-26-2009, 4:15 PM 567363 in reply to 567360

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    This could actually be fixed if you got a full refund on damaged pending buildings. If they are 90% damaged, you only get a 10% refund. Obviously this will get abused.

     

    It also works against UNSC. It's a little harder though since their buildings have a little more health and they didn't spend 500 on a temple. The prophet+wraith rush is probably the equivalent broken strategy against UNSC.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:17 PM 567365 in reply to 567360

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    drugiS:Are you sure the Brute Chieftain or Arbiter wouldn't kill your Prophet while you just focus on his buildings?

     

    An arbiter or chieftain dealing direct damage (No y button) against a shielded blessed immolation prophet will, if lucky, kill him in 20 years, maybe 30. The only logical way to even kill off the prophet with another covie leader is about 12 whacks from Arbiter's rage, which costs around 400+ resources to do.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:32 PM 567379 in reply to 567329

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    you could make a warehouse first, but then you can't have a single unit to fight off the prophet with since your temple won't be made
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  •  04-26-2009, 4:39 PM 567388 in reply to 567329

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    When I play Brute Chieftan against PoR, I always build a turret and temple right away, collect resources so I can build a warehouse, and then try to get another turret, 2 turrets will destroy an unupgraded PoR.  If he beams the turrets, hes wasting more money than I used because the beam is extremely weak unupgraded.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:40 PM 567390 in reply to 567388

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    I could just go in the turret's blind spot. Now you have no resources at all and the turret won't shoot.
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  •  04-26-2009, 4:45 PM 567397 in reply to 567390

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    Cookie Krisp:I could just go in the turret's blind spot. Now you have no resources at all and the turret won't shoot.

    I guess that's true, maybe if you attacked him with your hero and made him move, and rammed him with your scout even, anything that could help, once you get 2 turrets up, there's a very small space he can stay if he wants to be in the blind spots still.  A few brutes if you can get spare cash too.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:50 PM 567402 in reply to 567390

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    Two words

    Shield generator.

    A smart player would of seen you were rushing and would of had a shield generator up before you arrived.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:51 PM 567407 in reply to 567402

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    The Dark Knight:

    Two words

    Shield generator.

    A smart player would of seen you were rushing and would of had a shield generator up before you arrived.

    He arrived before the second building was even done. When do you suggest they make a shield gen.

    Although, if i was brute, i would of rushed bak if this happend. Brutes are better than the PoR.


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  •  04-26-2009, 4:52 PM 567409 in reply to 567402

    Re: Video proof of broken match-ups (PoR vs Brute)

    The Dark Knight:

    Two words

    Shield generator.

    A smart player would of seen you were rushing and would of had a shield generator up before you arrived.

    Did you watch the video?  The brute didn't get a second building up, and you need a temple first to even build a shield gen.  This is only a problem on smaller maps though.


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