Covenant rush impossible to beat?

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  •  02-19-2009, 10:45 PM 475920

    Covenant rush impossible to beat?

    This is actually a strategy the AI used against me on Heroic. I think it's impossible to beat. Let me know what you guys think.

    Be Covenant vs UNSC

    1. Immediately build temple

    2. Use the ghost to collect resources towards bottom of base

    3. After temple, start vehicle factory then a warehouse

    4. Use ghost to collect resources towards top right of base. Have prophet of regret join once he spawns. Then collect resources to left of the base

    5. Start a 2nd warehouse. Upgrade 1st warehouse when you can

    6. Prophet and ghost collect resources in the two spots to the bottom right of the base

    7. Make gravity lift's rally point on top of it

    8. When you have enough resources upgrade 2nd warehouse. Then wait till you have 350 to start a wraith

    9. After you start a wraith, once you get 100, build a 3rd warehouse 

    10. Once wraith spawns, attack with this force. Everytime your resources hit 350 start spawning a wraith and it'll join your army once it's ready.  

     

    This all takes only a few minutes (~2:53). In this amount of time the UNSC can't start building anything that is effective against this group since it needs 2 reactors to get the RPGs/spartan jack upgrade/vehicle factory/aircraft factory. I know this is just one level on Heroic, but I thought it was kinda neat...

     

  •  02-19-2009, 10:53 PM 475927 in reply to 475920

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    hahah thats my strategy!

    sometimes i mix it up with honor gaurds


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  •  02-19-2009, 11:17 PM 475937 in reply to 475927

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    Give me some times on your starting of units and when you hit pop 10 and 20. i'll tell you how unbeatable it is.

    press start to see your time played.


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  •  02-19-2009, 11:43 PM 475949 in reply to 475937

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    Ummm...if you mean impossible to beat against the computer, that's not that hard. And it's not a bad strategy in that sense.

    But if you're saying impossible against a person, I'm really not convinced.

  •  02-20-2009, 12:13 AM 475957 in reply to 475920

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    Nice strategy...
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  •  02-20-2009, 12:14 AM 475958 in reply to 475949

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    are you challenging me

    your counter sir...

    The unsc player builds an elephant just as the game starts then spawns a reactor and two supply pads while gathering recources with warthog.

    The elephant deploys near the base

    when enough recources are avialible build a turrent closest to elephant.

    build another warthog and start churning infantry out of elephant

    when you have enough recources upgrade supply pads and build a barracks

    upgrade warthogs to receive a gun and build a couple more.

    by now you should have a minimum of 4 warthogs and 8 marines squads and 1 light defense turrent.

    stop all production and save to upgrade your reactor.

    one done save for a vehicle depot, if youve already been rushed start to build infantry with the double barrack combo (elephant+barracks=double production power)

    one the vehicle depot is complete get a scorpion tank out and since your now teched enough for a spartan train as many spartans as you can

    here is your final anti rush force 2 Scorpions 4 warthogs 8 marines squads, 2 flamers and as many spartans as you can afford. from then on you counter the enemy by whatever they throw at you.

    If your enemy rushes using wraiths or ghosts instead of a vehicle depot build an airtower and build hornets.

    if your still taking to many hits upgrade your turrent to watever you enemy is rushing with and build a feild armory to get a better mac cannon.

     


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  •  02-20-2009, 2:24 AM 476003 in reply to 475958

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    Lol thats not a rush tactic. That looks like it would take a long time.

     

    UNSC builds an elephant, 3 supply pads, a barraks and a reactor. Send the elephant to the opposing teams base and deploy it right outside. Build marines and destroy the base. That takes 2 minutes to set up and 7 minutes to destroy the base. 

     If you want you can upgrade your marines.

  •  02-20-2009, 11:38 AM 476163 in reply to 476003

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    i have made a strg that is called airstrike iv used it on heroic and pwnd

    fisrt make a reactor supply pad barrcks then supply pads

    once done upgrade hog and make turrets

    after this upgrade supply pads if not done yet

    upgrade yur turrets for a small defence then upgrade marrians

    once done start a small army, you should have been attacked once or soon attacked by this point

    hold them off and repelish if need be then take the rebel's base and upgrade it

    hopefully you have saved some sypplies and now you can upgrade reactor

    now make an airpad and a lot of supply pads at your second base

    make sure you have turrets and the ones yuou have have been upgraded to anti-vechical

    now try to deffend for a while and make a feild armory upgrade units and anything eles

    upgrade everything for vultures(air uber units in airpad) after this start making as many vultures as you can i got 6

    send in yur small ground force to do as much damage as u can

    after defeated send in your vutuers and attck the base save your mega barrage(y button attck) for latter establish a base replenish lost vulters and then swarm the second base assuming they had it and spam Y and use your mac blast and your granteed victory in seconds


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  •  02-20-2009, 11:42 AM 476165 in reply to 475958

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    dragoon9105:

    are you challenging me

    your counter sir...

    The unsc player builds an elephant just as the game starts then spawns a reactor and two supply pads while gathering recources with warthog.

    The elephant deploys near the base

    when enough recources are avialible build a turrent closest to elephant.

    build another warthog and start churning infantry out of elephant

    when you have enough recources upgrade supply pads and build a barracks

    upgrade warthogs to receive a gun and build a couple more.

    by now you should have a minimum of 4 warthogs and 8 marines squads and 1 light defense turrent.

    stop all production and save to upgrade your reactor.

    one done save for a vehicle depot, if youve already been rushed start to build infantry with the double barrack combo (elephant+barracks=double production power)

    one the vehicle depot is complete get a scorpion tank out and since your now teched enough for a spartan train as many spartans as you can

    here is your final anti rush force 2 Scorpions 4 warthogs 8 marines squads, 2 flamers and as many spartans as you can afford. from then on you counter the enemy by whatever they throw at you.

    If your enemy rushes using wraiths or ghosts instead of a vehicle depot build an airtower and build hornets.

    if your still taking to many hits upgrade your turrent to watever you enemy is rushing with and build a feild armory to get a better mac cannon.

     

     

    Well, i can counter the covenant rush even quicker :P

    1) Build elephant, build nothing but supply pads at base and send warthog to get supplies

    2) Deploy right outside covenant base

    3) Spam flamethrowers (about 5-6)

     

    Covenant rush fails, and i can guarantee that doing those 3 things is quicker than making a covenant rush. That can hold off regret and a few vehicles for long enough to get a reactor up, meaning spartans. Counter rush using elephant is very good. and there is always the SOF powers.

  •  02-20-2009, 12:37 PM 476177 in reply to 476165

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    It looks like a lot written out but it takes about 2:53
  •  02-20-2009, 12:42 PM 476178 in reply to 476177

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    nice replies! If anything, it should be a lot of fun to try different strategies against other users here who are really interested in the game. Including times with strategies is a really good idea. I don't know who started it first here, but kudos to the person who posted all the supply pad times a few days ago

     

    Marines are pretty ineffective against the combination of Wraiths and prophet's beam imo.  

  •  02-20-2009, 12:46 PM 476180 in reply to 476163

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    Flarepheonix333:

    i have made a strg that is called airstrike iv used it on heroic and pwnd

    fisrt make a reactor supply pad barrcks then supply pads

    once done upgrade hog and make turrets

    after this upgrade supply pads if not done yet

    upgrade yur turrets for a small defence then upgrade marrians

    once done start a small army, you should have been attacked once or soon attacked by this point

    hold them off and repelish if need be then take the rebel's base and upgrade it

    hopefully you have saved some sypplies and now you can upgrade reactor

    now make an airpad and a lot of supply pads at your second base

    make sure you have turrets and the ones yuou have have been upgraded to anti-vechical

    now try to deffend for a while and make a feild armory upgrade units and anything eles

    upgrade everything for vultures(air uber units in airpad) after this start making as many vultures as you can i got 6

    send in yur small ground force to do as much damage as u can

    after defeated send in your vutuers and attck the base save your mega barrage(y button attck) for latter establish a base replenish lost vulters and then swarm the second base assuming they had it and spam Y and use your mac blast and your granteed victory in seconds

    Don't think that's your tactic, that is more of the AI's tactic... I've used it after getting pwned by the AI with it. It works very well.

    Also, why can't people on the forums type correctly?

  •  02-20-2009, 12:48 PM 476182 in reply to 475920

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    andrew0568:

    This is actually a strategy the AI used against me on Heroic. I think it's impossible to beat. Let me know what you guys think.

    Be Covenant vs UNSC

    1. Immediately build temple

    2. Use the ghost to collect resources towards bottom of base

    3. After temple, start vehicle factory then a warehouse

    4. Use ghost to collect resources towards top right of base. Have prophet of regret join once he spawns. Then collect resources to left of the base

    5. Start a 2nd warehouse. Upgrade 1st warehouse when you can

    6. Prophet and ghost collect resources in the two spots to the bottom right of the base

    7. Make gravity lift's rally point on top of it

    8. When you have enough resources upgrade 2nd warehouse. Then wait till you have 350 to start a wraith

    9. After you start a wraith, once you get 100 build a 3rd warehouse 

    10. Once wraith spawns, attack with this force. Everytime your resources hit 350 start spawning a wraith and it'll join your army once it's ready.  

     

    This all takes only a few minutes (~2:53). In this amount of time the UNSC can't start building anything that is effective against this group since it needs 2 reactors to get the RPGs/spartan jack upgrade/vehicle factory/aircraft factory. I know this is just one level on Heroic, but I thought it was kinda neat...

    actually I dont think reactors are quite expencive and take a long time to get running, I usually get one reactor going in my second building pad after a barrcks then a supply pad after the reactor .

    wart hog gathers enough for 3-4 flamers and their flash abng ability then I take the extra supply pad adn the resources the dead rebels leave on the ground which gives me enough to build a second reactor


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  •  02-20-2009, 12:51 PM 476183 in reply to 476178

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    andrew0568:

    nice replies! If anything, it should be a lot of fun to try different strategies against other users here who are really interested in the game. Including times with strategies is a really good idea. I don't know who started it first here, but kudos to the person who posted all the supply pad times a few days ago

     

    Marines are pretty ineffective against the combination of Wraiths and prophet's beam imo.  

    Yes I've mentioned that before to :D

    I'll prlly start a forum soon so everyone who wants to get a 3v3 going  in a private match can share eachothers gamertags


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  •  02-20-2009, 3:31 PM 476288 in reply to 476183

    Re: Covenant rush impossible to beat

    Seeing that you are going to build a factory with my scout, i'll just focus on making a Spartan, that can jack any wraiths.  Same goes for the elephant rush, i'll jack the elephant and destroy any Marines you have.  I have yet to try the elephant rush, seems like it would die to a rail gun turret though.
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