Why did you leave out so much?

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  •  12-21-2008, 12:36 PM 429566

    Why did you leave out so much?

    From what I can see, each team has three infantry, four vehicles, two aircraft, and one special unit.  My question is why did you leave out so much?  Nine generic units per faction?  That really doesn't seem like much.  Most RTS games I've played have at least fifteen.

    I know it's for the xbox and you want to keep it fairly simple, but I don't see how getting rid of units makes it easier to play... seems more like a spam fest at that point.  Right off the top of my head I can think of around 20 units to add from previous Halos.  Plus you guys (ES) added many units to the game (the sparrowhawk, cyclops, vulture, locust, cobra, and vampire).  I just don't get it.

    I espeicaly don't get it with the elites, spirit, phantom, pelican, rocket marines, and sniper marines.


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  •  12-21-2008, 12:40 PM 429568 in reply to 429566

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    more units dont always make the game better
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  •  12-21-2008, 12:40 PM 429569 in reply to 429566

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    I belive it´s possible to upgrade almost all units witch brings us up to between 30 and 35 units in the game.

  •  12-21-2008, 12:41 PM 429570 in reply to 429569

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    Empadini:
    I belive it´s possible to upgrade almost all units witch brings us up to between 30 and 35 units in the game.

    Yah, but the units are still the same basic thing. The grizzly is still the scorpion, just with more firepower and armor.


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  •  12-21-2008, 12:41 PM 429573 in reply to 429569

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    Well from what the manuals show each faction has 10 units, not including upgrades and leader units.
  •  12-21-2008, 12:44 PM 429575 in reply to 429573

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    DrunkMonk13:
    Well from what the manuals show each faction has 10 units, not including upgrades and leader units.

    UNSC have 9, Covys have 10 if you include the Scarab.


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  •  12-21-2008, 12:44 PM 429576 in reply to 429570

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    o.O Who told you my name was CivBase?:

    Empadini:
    I belive it´s possible to upgrade almost all units witch brings us up to between 30 and 35 units in the game.

    Yah, but the units are still the same basic thing. The grizzly is still the scorpion, just with more firepower and armor.

    yes, i know what you meen(sp?) but some units like hornet becomes a hawk witch is pretty unlike the hornet at least in look



  •  12-21-2008, 12:56 PM 429599 in reply to 429576

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    I dont really have trouble with this.

    I would rather have selective infantry than having to make 6 different types of them jsut towin a simple infantry battle. 


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  •  12-21-2008, 1:08 PM 429606 in reply to 429599

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    Yes i am fine with a few units aswell, as long as they are upgradeble

  •  12-21-2008, 1:12 PM 429611 in reply to 429599

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    i concur

    chess is a game with 6 different types of units (and only one faction;) ) yet is the one of the if not the most strategic game of all time

    more units does not mean more good strategies just more over-powered/not balanced strategies that ES will fix in a patch 


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  •  12-21-2008, 1:16 PM 429616 in reply to 429606

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    The problem with this game is that it is tailored to the more casuel gamer. They technically have alot of units in the game, but most turned out to be an upgrade from another, which is in fact, ridiculous in some cases (marines to ODSTs, hornets to hawks, the warthog variant issue ... ETC).

    So for the more hardcore rts gamer, this game will probably become rather boring due to lack of variation of units. To the casual gamer it will apeal due to action packed action.

    ES has made their choice, they chose the casual gamer obviously. In doing so they abandoned alot of elements that make halo what it is.


  •  12-21-2008, 1:21 PM 429617 in reply to 429616

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    L0d3x:
    The problem with this game is that it is tailored to the more casuel gamer. They technically have alot of units in the game, but most turned out to be an upgrade from another, which is in fact, ridiculous in some cases (marines to ODSTs, hornets to hawks, the warthog variant issue ... ETC).

    So for the more hardcore rts gamer, this game will probably become rather boring due to lack of variation of units. To the casual gamer it will apeal due to action packed action.

    ES has made their choice, they chose the casual gamer obviously. In doing so they abandoned alot of elements that make halo what it is.

    I am not sure what your talking about LOd3x. The Halo games are fairly easy to just pick up and play. That is very casual if you ask me. I say they are relatively the same in that respect.

    Multiplayer is where your "hardcore" players are. And by those rules I am not one of them, even though I have spent countless hours playing and unlocking achievements for Halo 3, replaying Halo CE and 2 to know their storylines and cutscenes by heart. That is hardcore if you ask me. But by "majority" definition we cant be hardcore players unless we are ranked high in Multiplayer teirs or whatever you use.

    RTS wise I am about as hardcore as you can get. I spent around 68 hours on just one game of Sins of a Solar Empire. 68 hours to tweek everything so it was just perfect. This is against a single opponent. C&C games have been played over and over again. I needed to replace my Tiberium Sun disk and its expansion Firestorm because they have been used so much they got burned out. AoE games and Blizzard RTS games are always up there in my game play time. Hell I have probably played RTS games that you have never even heard of such as Heroes of Annihilated Empires or the Spellforce series of games.

    Online play doesnt make a hardcore player. How they play the game and how passionate they are about it makes them a hardcore player. A casual RTS game can be just as hardcore as a world championship game between North Korea and the USA over StarCraft.

    It has plenty of Halo feel to it that is oh so important. You just choose not to recognize it as your too hung up on your personal views of what a game should be.

    Thats my opinion. Disagree with it all you want but I am just going off of my personal observations of you and other members and their posts. That and the general Halo community.



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  •  12-21-2008, 1:22 PM 429618 in reply to 429611

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    kslidz:

    i concur

    chess is a game with 6 different types of units (and only one faction;) ) yet is the one of the if not the most strategic game of all time

    more units does not mean more good strategies just more over-powered/not balanced strategies that ES will fix in a patch 

    never thought of it that way...

    i suck at chess as well...


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  •  12-21-2008, 1:24 PM 429621 in reply to 429617

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    VaultingFrog:

    L0d3x:
    The problem with this game is that it is tailored to the more casuel gamer. They technically have alot of units in the game, but most turned out to be an upgrade from another, which is in fact, ridiculous in some cases (marines to ODSTs, hornets to hawks, the warthog variant issue ... ETC).

    So for the more hardcore rts gamer, this game will probably become rather boring due to lack of variation of units. To the casual gamer it will apeal due to action packed action.

    ES has made their choice, they chose the casual gamer obviously. In doing so they abandoned alot of elements that make halo what it is.

    I am not sure what your talking about LOd3x. The Halo games are fairly easy to just pick up and play. That is very casual if you ask me. I say they are relatively the same in that respect.

    Multiplayer is where your "hardcore" players are. And by those rules I am not one of them, even though I have spent countless hours playing and unlocking achievements for Halo 3, replaying Halo CE and 2 to know their storylines and cutscenes by heart. That is hardcore if you ask me. But by "majority" definition we cant be hardcore players unless we are ranked high in Multiplayer teirs or whatever you use.

    It has plenty of Halo feel to it that is oh so important. You just choose not to recognize it as your too hung up on your personal views of what a game should be.

    Thats my opinion. Disagree with it all you want but I am just going off of my personal observations of you and other members and their posts. That and the general Halo community.

    I agree with what VaultingFrog said.

  •  12-21-2008, 1:34 PM 429623 in reply to 429621

    Re: Why did you leave out so much?

    It is the first Halo Wars, and it is on a console.  If it was on the PC originally I bet they could have some more units because the formatting with the controller.  A keyboard can give you 10x more options than a controller in a RTS.  Ensemble also made the circle menu, for easier manuvering, and they didn't want to flood it. 

    The more you know.


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