Location of Harvest

Last post 12-20-2008, 12:00 PM by Heartofthewolf. 27 replies.
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  •  12-19-2008, 2:34 AM 427994

    Location of Harvest

    Has anyone else noticed the glaring error about the location of Harvest? In Halo wars it says that Harvest is in the Epsilon Indi system, which is only 11 light years from earth. it is supposed to be the farthest colony from earth, yet they put it in Epsilon Indi? Reach is in the Epsilon Eridani system, which is 10.5 light years from earth, and that is considered Earth's backdoor. In contrast, the colony Mitgard, which is supposed to be the next closest colony to Harvest, is almost 85 light years from earth! whats the deal?
  •  12-19-2008, 2:59 AM 427997 in reply to 427994

    Re: Location of Harvest

    Heartofthewolf:
    Has anyone else noticed the glaring error about the location of Harvest? In Halo wars it says that Harvest is in the Epsilon Indi system, which is only 11 light years from earth. it is supposed to be the farthest colony from earth, yet they put it in Epsilon Indi? Reach is in the Epsilon Eridani system, which is 10.5 light years from earth, and that is considered Earth's backdoor. In contrast, the colony Mitgard, which is supposed to be the next closest colony to Harvest, is almost 85 light years from earth! whats the deal?

    Harvest is one of the most remote, not the farthest. Also, where are you getting Mitgard from? If you mean Utgard, it's in the Epsilon Indi system as well, as it is the capital city of Harvest. 

    I'm having some trouble finding the point of this. Could you clarify please?


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  •  12-19-2008, 3:09 AM 427998 in reply to 427997

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    Sorry, the world's name is actually Madrigal; i have no idea why i thought Mitgard at first. anyway, the page is here http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/23_Librae   my point is, Reach is close to Earth, yes? at 10.5 light years, this is feasible. therefore, saying that Harvest is far at 11 light years make absolutely no sense, especially if another colony is almost 85 light years away.
  •  12-19-2008, 6:37 AM 428016 in reply to 427998

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    the covenant is not all over the galaxy .
    so if the 2 planet's are at the opposite side 1 would be safe and the other would well be not safe


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  •  12-19-2008, 6:39 AM 428017 in reply to 427997

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    the Oceanborn:

    Heartofthewolf:
    Has anyone else noticed the glaring error about the location of Harvest? In Halo wars it says that Harvest is in the Epsilon Indi system, which is only 11 light years from earth. it is supposed to be the farthest colony from earth, yet they put it in Epsilon Indi? Reach is in the Epsilon Eridani system, which is 10.5 light years from earth, and that is considered Earth's backdoor. In contrast, the colony Mitgard, which is supposed to be the next closest colony to Harvest, is almost 85 light years from earth! whats the deal?

    Harvest is one of the most remote, not the farthest. Also, where are you getting Mitgard from? If you mean Utgard, it's in the Epsilon Indi system as well, as it is the capital city of Harvest. 

    I'm having some trouble finding the point of this. Could you clarify please?

    He means the one planet from the Cole protocol  its called madrigal


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  •  12-19-2008, 8:51 AM 428027 in reply to 428017

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    Isnt their secret halo CE and halo 3 music in the name of the siege of Madrigal?
    "Intiating directive 7395: DESTROY ALL COMMUNNISTS!"
    "Communsim is the very definition of failure!"
    "Better dead then Red!"
    "Liberty Prime online. Weapons are hot. Objective: To liberate Alaska and destory any and all red chinese communists!"
  •  12-19-2008, 8:57 AM 428030 in reply to 428027

    Re: Location of Harvest

    OK...back on topic please? anybody actually understand what I'm asking?

     It has nothing to do with the Covenant; i am merely saying that Epsilon Indi is way, WAY too close to Earth to be the location of Harvest. For example, Epsilon Indi is 14 light years from Epsilon Eridani (the location of Reach) and it is 11.8 light years from Earth itself. in contrast, Madrigal (In the 23 Librae system) is 83.6 light years from Earth. Madrigal would clearly be an outer colony, but Epsilon Indi (and therefore Harvest itself) would have to be an inner colony, NOT one of the farthest colonies of mankind. (I got these figures from the free program Celestia, check it out if you want to corroborate my data.)

    I hope that is clearer. i apologize if my original post was not; thats why i shouldnt post at 4 in the morning.

     Also, just so you all know, i am a she, not a he.

  •  12-19-2008, 9:14 AM 428032 in reply to 428030

    Re: Location of Harvest

    To be honest, no I still don't.

    If you're saying that 10 or so lightyears is close to Earth, I would tend to disagree. Compared to that distance, Pluto is close to Earth.


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  •  12-19-2008, 9:19 AM 428033 in reply to 428032

    Re: Location of Harvest

    10 light years is  close when there is a colony at 83 light years. i am talking about relative distances here.

    For example,

    If we take the halo wiki info as true, human spaceships make 2.625 light years per day to travel through slipspace. that means a trip from Earth to Reach takes 4 days to make. i think we can all agree that Reach is "Earth's back door" as was said somewhere, right? so 4 days is a short jump to a close world. Madrigal, on the other hand, is a 31.6 day trip from Earth, and therefore far away. Epsilon Indi, the supposed location of Harvest, is 4.19 days from Earth, just about as close as Reach is. Therefore, Epsilon Indi CANNOT be one of the farthest colonies.

  •  12-19-2008, 9:28 AM 428035 in reply to 428033

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    Well, there's one of your mistakes. I would almost never take what Halopedia says to be absolute truth. I could go on there right now and say that the Epsilon Indi system is a Hippy-homeworld, made of flowers and funky smoke. The problem with Wiki's is that anyone can edit them, and this leads to dome discredibility.

    That being said, I would need to see all of these systems ploted out on a galactic map to really discern their distances. Too many numbers thrown out doesn't draw a clear picture for me.


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  •  12-19-2008, 9:32 AM 428036 in reply to 428035

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    Ok, fair enough. still, the real world positions of the stars are really the data behind what I'm driving at. i can draw you a simple picture if you would like.
  •  12-19-2008, 9:36 AM 428037 in reply to 428036

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    That might help, but something's bugging me. I've been searching; where is it that it's said Reach is Earth's backdoor? The only thing close to that I can think of is that when Reach fell they said there was nothing standing between the Covenant and Earth. Reach was a military planet, and our other colonies didn't have the military support to really be a solid defense.

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    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

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  •  12-19-2008, 9:41 AM 428038 in reply to 428037

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    Well to be honest i cant remember, i think it might have been ilovebees, or maybe even in one of the games. at any rate, i am 100% certain Reach is considered to be insanely close to Earth. thats why everybody freaked out in ilovebees when they got the news that Reach was attacked.
  •  12-19-2008, 9:42 AM 428039 in reply to 428038

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  •  12-19-2008, 10:02 AM 428040 in reply to 428039

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    This may help:

    Saying that Epsilon Indi is one of the farthest systems from Earth is like saying Oklahoma is one of the farthest states from Texas. within the US, there are states much farther away than Oklahoma from Texas. Just like in the UNSC, there are colonies (like Madrigal) That are much farther from Earth than Epsilon Indi is.

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