Ok, setting the record straight.

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  •  06-27-2008, 5:18 PM 277010

    Ok, setting the record straight.

    I had an old argument with some-one, before I had Halo 3, or Contact harvest.  I was writing about the forerunner/humans debate, and was crushed when I suggested that humans WERE forerunners.  I was told that it was impossible and nothing suggested that they were.  I finally agreed that there was no connection and went along with my life.  Later, when i bought halo 3, i noticed several monologues (2) that supported my theory.  One being the gravemind on the level Cortana, speaking about the MC's ancestors and their wars against the flood, and the other being on the level Halo, when the monitor talks about Johnson and Chief being forerunner.  I brought these points up, and was told that they were not enough proof to make anybody believe me.  Now I'm bringing up my third point!  In the book contact harvest, there is one major instance where humans are displayed as forerunner.  While three prophets are talking inside the dreadnought, an oracle activates, yelling that their religion is a falsehood.  It says that the sign they believed meant a relic to be reclaimed, was actually a sign for reclaimer, or humans.  So when they found Harvest, they thought that the planet was full of relics.  It was actually just humans, forerunner descendants.  The oracle then goes on to say that the humans are forerunner, and that they did not go on the great journey (the halo activation) like the rest of their species.  It then says that they must be brought to the ark.  Confirming that the ark (as it was also used in the bible) was a safe haven for forerunner to escape the activation of the halo array.  This book also confirms my suspicion (several times) that Johnson was a spartan I.  On page 47, a marine recruiter is checking Johnson's records.  The first project to appear: Orion.  Since I'm a huge fan of Halo, I looked up what Orion is.  If you check it up on Halopedia, or wikipedia, the answer will be something like this.  Project Orion was a plan developed by Dr. Halsey.  It was a set of vigorous training excercises followed by surgery and drug inductions that would effectively create a superhuman.  It wa somewhat similar to the Spartan II program, except less intense, costly, time consuming, and would over-all create much lower-level soldiers than the spartans.  It was experimental.  So, to who-ever said that Johnson is not a spartan, that humans are not forerunner descendants, and the ark was not a place to survive the flood (bible reference to the max) IN YOUR FACE!

     


    Kurt (spartan II) to some covy s.o.b.

    "Die? Didn't you know?... spartans never die."

    *dies*
  •  06-27-2008, 5:26 PM 277022 in reply to 277010

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    nices points man like that you had proof of it to nice i believe you


  •  06-27-2008, 5:27 PM 277024 in reply to 277010

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    I thought that the stuff in Halo 3 said that "You are forerunner" Literally.

     

    As in Halo 3 said that we are forerunner, it wasnt Sybolism or clever dialogue, it was Humans are forerunner end of story....


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  •  06-27-2008, 5:35 PM 277039 in reply to 277022

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    dcmb3:
    nices points man like that you had proof of it to nice i believe you

    Thanks.   Last time I said this, I was shut down.


    Kurt (spartan II) to some covy s.o.b.

    "Die? Didn't you know?... spartans never die."

    *dies*
  •  06-27-2008, 5:40 PM 277044 in reply to 277024

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    Yeah it doesn't say it directly but here it is by 343 "You may be the childern of my creators, but this ring, is MINE." And also those prophets u speak of in the room would become the three ones we know today (Truth, Regret, and Mercy)
    In my times, the darkened days,
    Evil invaded the world.
    We farmers,
    We workers of the Red Union,
    We united and slaughtered them all.
    The brave soul,
    Above the evil,
    Planted our inspiration atop their burning cities.
    - Ruski
  •  06-27-2008, 5:44 PM 277056 in reply to 277044

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    Second Lieutenant Kyle Bradley:
    Yeah it doesn't say it directly but here it is by 343 "You may be the childern of my creators, but this ring, is MINE." And also those prophets u speak of in the room would become the three ones we know today (Truth, Regret, and Mercy)

     

     

    awwwwww,........................  way to ruin the book, I'm almost done too.


    Kurt (spartan II) to some covy s.o.b.

    "Die? Didn't you know?... spartans never die."

    *dies*
  •  06-27-2008, 5:46 PM 277061 in reply to 277056

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    Tom b-292:

    Second Lieutenant Kyle Bradley:
    Yeah it doesn't say it directly but here it is by 343 "You may be the childern of my creators, but this ring, is MINE." And also those prophets u speak of in the room would become the three ones we know today (Truth, Regret, and Mercy)

     

     

    awwwwww,........................  way to ruin the book, I'm almost done too.

    cmon you didn't see that coming? 


  •  06-27-2008, 5:47 PM 277067 in reply to 277061

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    well, kinda, they're talking about a take-over, but I figured it would be one of those steriotypical halo endings.  Everyone dies.

    I also found the name of the guy who told me i was wrong, kingktiger123


    Kurt (spartan II) to some covy s.o.b.

    "Die? Didn't you know?... spartans never die."

    *dies*
  •  06-27-2008, 5:49 PM 277074 in reply to 277067

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    Ooohh I just read a post by him and he seemed like a Jackass...

    Just kidding KT if you ever read this.

    I think it was in another of your threads Tom!


    I KNOW WHO I AM!, I'm the Dude, Playing the Dude, disguised as another dude.

    Oh PS check out my FF Beyond Cairo
    http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/324367.aspx
  •  06-27-2008, 5:53 PM 277082 in reply to 277067

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    Tom b-292:

    well, kinda, they're talking about a take-over, but I figured it would be one of those steriotypical halo endings.  Everyone dies.

    I also found the name of the guy who told me i was wrong, kingktiger123

    Nope PS: Your sig is wrong it should be "Die? Didn't you know? ... Spartans never die."

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  •  06-27-2008, 6:01 PM 277095 in reply to 277082

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    Mr. Grenade:
    Nope PS: Your sig is wrong it should be "Die? Didn't you know? ... Spartans never die."

     

    ty, i'll change it.


    Kurt (spartan II) to some covy s.o.b.

    "Die? Didn't you know?... spartans never die."

    *dies*
  •  06-27-2008, 6:15 PM 277111 in reply to 277095

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    It was probably me. And guess what? Human's aren't forerunner. Everything points against it.

    I'm sure while taking words out of context in Halo 3 you also missed the vast wealth of knowledge in the terminals, talking about how the forerunners found Earth and the humans and "adopted" them, so to speak. 

    Your argument is officially null and void.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them. 


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  •  06-27-2008, 6:38 PM 277133 in reply to 277111

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    Ok i have a question, while the forerunner are not human i am guessing they are at least humanoid, right? thats why there controls and doors and other things are roughly human sized?
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  •  06-27-2008, 6:44 PM 277137 in reply to 277111

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    humans are called forunners cuz they messed wit the human geens and 'adopted them' like he sayd...but it was a good ponts...and yes everything about the ark and spartan 1s is right...plus onxy is a sheld world where u can servive the halos also...
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  •  06-27-2008, 6:56 PM 277153 in reply to 277044

    Re: Ok, setting the record straight.

    Second Lieutenant Kyle Bradley:
    Yeah it doesn't say it directly but here it is by 343 "You may be the childern of my creators, but this ring, is MINE." And also those prophets u speak of in the room would become the three ones we know today (Truth, Regret, and Mercy)

    mate! no incorrect

     

    " You are the child of my makers, inheritor of all they left behind, you are Forerunner. But this ring....is MINE!"

     

     

    and B292

    So your saying that Humans ARE Forerunner? 

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