tmspartan:

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I liked this line "Counters should work and be balanced enough so they're not OP" I agree with this line, but what Robot wans to do is remove the Gremlin, not balance it. As it stands, the Gremlins totaly owns Hogs, and easily counters early Marines, so lets take what you said, ad balance it so its not OP, and thats done by reducing its power, not killing the unit.

The logical decision then would be to buff Marines' damage to Gremlins. And in return buff their damage to Hogs. As marines get wrecked by hogs before RPG.

The thing about them countering Hogs too hard though I don't see as a problem. As this happens many times throughout the game. Like Hornets vs Vamps, or Wolvs vs any Air, Cobras vs Vehicles. You can have a few of certain counters take out a lot of their counter. If this couldn't happen it would make the game a lot harder to win once you have settled into a build.

Gremlins should be able to take on Hogs early game, it shouldn't just be a Hogfest in Anders vs UNSC. If the Marines vs medium Vehicles damage was brought up a bit then this would be solved.

I agree that Gremlins should be able to take on Hogs, but not so powerfull. Its like a Vampire being able to kill 6 horents. We agree the vamp should win, but not by a land slide.

Lets imagine what a game would be like if my nerf was done.

Anders has to make 3 gunner to get map control, but Forge goes for 6. Anders has to get a couple gremlins aswell. Forge adds a few marines, and stops spawn camping. Anders, has to tech and make flamers, but her eco is weak, so only a couple can be made to fight off Forges 5.

Now its an equal fight. 6 hogs and 5 NB Marines, VS 3 hogs, 2 Gremlins and 2 Flamers. It will come down to micro. If Robot did thier patch, Anders would have the same amount of Hogs as Forge +1, and also the 2 flamers, against 5 Marines. Forge will be able to get game advantage, and still be able to protect his base if Anders tried to spawn camp.