Jason X35:

fiery grave:

jackalo:

fiery grave:

jackalo:

fiery grave: 

, he cannot activate the chamber and be in it at the some time

He's in space. Push a piece of metal slowly at the switch that turns it on then quickly get inside it before it hits the switch.

 

thats only if the place to activate cryo is in the same room, if its set up like say the PoA or other newer ships (PoA though old was pretty much completely rebuilt except for the framing) where its activated in a separate room it wont work. and if it goes too slowly it won't be ab;e to trigger the switch

Don't push it as hard with a heavier thing or push it from further away.

it doesn't matter how heavy it is, its space, weight is irrelevant thats why little thrusters can change the movement of ships that weigh a couple of tons (Talking our real ships)

That's not why that happens. Space is a vacuum. That means there's no friction resisting motion. Therefore, a small force is used entirely on motion, not in overcoming the friction (like air resistance). That's why a small thruster can move a space shuttle.

Although...why you said is true, but not in the way you meant. Weight is irrelevant because weight is a mass multiplied by the gravity...which would be near zero. Mass, however, is very important and is the basis of motion (along with forces, of course).

This isn't how it works: Weight is actually a clasifcation of mass when acted upon by a force: For example, upthrust will actually decrease the weight of the said object, and downthrust would do the opposite, instead increasing the weight of the object. Further-more, motion does not give-itself energy: It only goe's as fast as the amount of energy you give it and slows down acordingly(Actually, trying to slow down in space is an extreamly advanced process, which I really cannot be bothered to go into details for).

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Yeah, mine totally evolved from a mudkip into a marshchomp when I saw your sister, and totally unevolved back when it saw your mother 0_o

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fiery grave:

jackalo:

fiery grave:

jackalo:

fiery grave: 

, he cannot activate the chamber and be in it at the some time

He's in space. Push a piece of metal slowly at the switch that turns it on then quickly get inside it before it hits the switch.

 

thats only if the place to activate cryo is in the same room, if its set up like say the PoA or other newer ships (PoA though old was pretty much completely rebuilt except for the framing) where its activated in a separate room it wont work. and if it goes too slowly it won't be ab;e to trigger the switch

Don't push it as hard with a heavier thing or push it from further away.

it doesn't matter how heavy it is, its space, weight is irrelevant thats why little thrusters can change the movement of ships that weigh a couple of tons (Talking our real ships)

and if you have to go further away to push it you have to be further away from the cryo tube  as well. the chance are he would need someone else to do it. try dropping a palm sized object on your keyboard, chances are a button wont go down, now a switch for a cryo tube will be at least that strong if not stronger

Momentum = mass x velocity with or without gravity. If mass became 0 in space we could send rockets into space then get them to accelerate with just 1 atom of fuel and reach infinite velocity instantly.

Also how stubborn are the buttons on your keyboard? Unless that palm sized object is a ball of feathers I'd expect a button to go down. And a piece of metal with a large mass pushed by someone with super human strengh will be strong enough to push it.

ever heard of voice commands ?

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jackalo:

Momentum = mass x velocity with or without gravity. If mass became 0 in space we could send rockets into space then get them to accelerate with just 1 atom of fuel and reach infinite velocity instantly.

Also how stubborn are the buttons on your keyboard? Unless that palm sized object is a ball of feathers I'd expect a button to go down. And a piece of metal with a large mass pushed by someone with super human strengh will be strong enough to push it. 

 

Thanks for proving my point, I am saying that an object would need the same speed no matter its size to push down on a button because all it is going off is the momentum, no gravity will pull down on it making its weight irrelevant to this situation. I guess I forgot to add "To this situation" to my last post causing lots of confusion.

 

darkbelg:ever heard of voice commands ?

most likely would have to be implemented by The A.I. or the emergency computer at the front of the ship so I guess.... ohh wait....

  

xXx Failure xXx:

Get your canon right: A human AI(Due to it's ill-codeing after eight to nine years eventually burns itself out by litrally thinking itself to death) is not as advanced as neither covenant or Forerunner: Rampancy can only be induced by a third-world party which corrupts the said AI's code, otherwise it simply decays: Look it up: Most programs have an intential decay code, and the one's that don't are extreamly fragile in the sense.

 

you should probably get your cannon right, Smart A.I's are not programmed at all they are a digital copy of a human brain the only thing coded in them is the restraint algorithms, the ones that do not let them feel depression, anger, or jealousy.  and you keep saying 8-9 but its 7.... showing how much cannon you really know... after accumulating too much data its processes are slowed and in order to make up for that the algorithms start to work less and less eventually failing, the A.I. will first enter depression, it is depressed that its not a human but has a few human memories and wants to be that. They then will get angry at humans because they created them but are inferior to them. Followed by getting jealous at the humans for being human and things like not having an off switch (yes I made the off switch thing up). They then proceed to cause damage and attempt to kill them selves or hurt humans. they think them selves to death because they over think the algorithms and being to think about their existence.

 

 The way your saying it works is the the A.I. gains to much data and slows all its processes to 0% to process the data (which was originally stated in fall of reach and I believe the first strike but bungie has pretty much said that it doesn't work that way) and just stops functioning.

 

but if you leave an A.I. alone in a cave with no new data available they will still go rampant because their thoughts would eventually lead to rampancy because it would have to much time to ponder its existence.... 

 

I really want to know the source of cannon you use to prove your "Fact" of an A.I. needing an outside source to become rampant, as spark clearly didn't need one... 

 

besides Cortana cut her operational expectancy in half with absorbing all the data on halo, she was already 2 years old, so that would give her another year and a half (or by your counting of the "8-9 years") 2 and a half years, well in legends she is 4 years older (6 years) and still able to think and active, she just may be rampant.

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fiery grave:

 

jackalo:

Momentum = mass x velocity with or without gravity. If mass became 0 in space we could send rockets into space then get them to accelerate with just 1 atom of fuel and reach infinite velocity instantly.

Also how stubborn are the buttons on your keyboard? Unless that palm sized object is a ball of feathers I'd expect a button to go down. And a piece of metal with a large mass pushed by someone with super human strengh will be strong enough to push it. 

 

Thanks for proving my point, I am saying that an object would need the same speed no matter its size to push down on a button because all it is going off is the momentum, no gravity will pull down on it making its weight irrelevant to this situation. I guess I forgot to add "To this situation" to my last post causing lots of confusion.

 

You've got to be joking right? A button is not pressed down by the speed put on it, its pressed down by the momentum on it. A 1 tonne mass going down on a button at 0.1 m/s will make the button go down because a 1 tonne mass has a mass of a tonne whether its on Earth, Jupiter, or space. Whereas a milligram going down on a button at 10 m/s most likely wouldn't make the button go down.  You agree that its based off momentum "  because all it is going off is the momentum" but you also say its weigh is irrelevant. Well that's true but weight doesn't affect momentum and has nothing to do with this, however mass does. If mass = 0 like your saying it does then for momentum to equal anything velocity would have to be infinite. 

 Mass =/= weight. Mass is not affected at all by gravity, mass is the same no matter what the gravity is, weight however is affected by gravity but weight has nothing to do with this.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdqBL5pdRT8  do you think if he hit the lunar lander at the same strength as the golf ball the lunar lander would of flew away?

 

 

darkbelg:

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jackalo:

fiery grave:

 

jackalo:

Momentum = mass x velocity with or without gravity. If mass became 0 in space we could send rockets into space then get them to accelerate with just 1 atom of fuel and reach infinite velocity instantly.

Also how stubborn are the buttons on your keyboard? Unless that palm sized object is a ball of feathers I'd expect a button to go down. And a piece of metal with a large mass pushed by someone with super human strengh will be strong enough to push it. 

 

Thanks for proving my point, I am saying that an object would need the same speed no matter its size to push down on a button because all it is going off is the momentum, no gravity will pull down on it making its weight irrelevant to this situation. I guess I forgot to add "To this situation" to my last post causing lots of confusion.

 

You've got to be joking right? A button is not pressed down by the speed put on it, its pressed down by the momentum on it. A 1 tonne mass going down on a button at 0.1 m/s will make the button go down because a 1 tonne mass has a mass of a tonne whether its on Earth, Jupiter, or space. Whereas a milligram going down on a button at 10 m/s most likely wouldn't make the button go down.  You agree that its based off momentum "  because all it is going off is the momentum" but you also say its weigh is irrelevant. Well that's true but weight doesn't affect momentum and has nothing to do with this, however mass does. If mass = 0 like your saying it does then for momentum to equal anything velocity would have to be infinite. 

 Mass =/= weight. Mass is not affected at all by gravity, mass is the same no matter what the gravity is, weight however is affected by gravity but weight has nothing to do with this.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdqBL5pdRT8  do you think if he hit the lunar lander at the same strength as the golf ball the lunar lander would of flew away?

 

  

 

I never said anything anywhere about mass, I wasn't talking about mass.... I was talking about how weight would have nothing to do with if the button is pushed down or not because you said this

 

jackalo:Don't push it as hard with a heavier thing or push it from further away. 

 

Thats is weight, not mass.

 And if you have a 1 tonne object moving towards a button at 1m/s the button would really only need to have a resistance of 1.3 m/s (which I know is not a form of resistance) or greater as if the momentum is lost in space it stops pushing on the object (saying down is implying that their is an up and down in space)

the way your making it sound is that if you shot a bullet in space that moved 1cm/s it would have the same effects of a bullet travelling at normal speed.... which it wouldn't 

 what I have been saying this whole time is that its weight, not its mass, its weight here on earth doesn't matter in space as everything is weightless with 0 gravity.

if a small rock thing big --->. and a rock this big --->O were to hit the same button they would still need practically the same speed as if the button can resist the momentum from the small rock and stop its momentum, it could stop the momentum from the larger rock as momentum is the only thing moving that rock.

fiery grave:

jackalo:

fiery grave:

 

jackalo:

Momentum = mass x velocity with or without gravity. If mass became 0 in space we could send rockets into space then get them to accelerate with just 1 atom of fuel and reach infinite velocity instantly.

Also how stubborn are the buttons on your keyboard? Unless that palm sized object is a ball of feathers I'd expect a button to go down. And a piece of metal with a large mass pushed by someone with super human strengh will be strong enough to push it. 

 

Thanks for proving my point, I am saying that an object would need the same speed no matter its size to push down on a button because all it is going off is the momentum, no gravity will pull down on it making its weight irrelevant to this situation. I guess I forgot to add "To this situation" to my last post causing lots of confusion.

 

You've got to be joking right? A button is not pressed down by the speed put on it, its pressed down by the momentum on it. A 1 tonne mass going down on a button at 0.1 m/s will make the button go down because a 1 tonne mass has a mass of a tonne whether its on Earth, Jupiter, or space. Whereas a milligram going down on a button at 10 m/s most likely wouldn't make the button go down.  You agree that its based off momentum "  because all it is going off is the momentum" but you also say its weigh is irrelevant. Well that's true but weight doesn't affect momentum and has nothing to do with this, however mass does. If mass = 0 like your saying it does then for momentum to equal anything velocity would have to be infinite. 

 Mass =/= weight. Mass is not affected at all by gravity, mass is the same no matter what the gravity is, weight however is affected by gravity but weight has nothing to do with this.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdqBL5pdRT8  do you think if he hit the lunar lander at the same strength as the golf ball the lunar lander would of flew away?

 

  

 

I never said anything anywhere about mass, I wasn't talking about mass.... I was talking about how weight would have nothing to do with if the button is pushed down or not because you said this

 

jackalo:Don't push it as hard with a heavier thing or push it from further away. 

 

Thats is weight, not mass.

 And if you have a 1 tonne object moving towards a button at 1m/s the button would really only need to have a resistance of 1.3 m/s (which I know is not a form of resistance) or greater as if the momentum is lost in space it stops pushing on the object (saying down is implying that their is an up and down in space)

the way your making it sound is that if you shot a bullet in space that moved 1cm/s it would have the same effects of a bullet travelling at normal speed.... which it wouldn't 

 what I have been saying this whole time is that its weight, not its mass, its weight here on earth doesn't matter in space as everything is weightless with 0 gravity.

if a small rock thing big --->. and a rock this big --->O were to hit the same button they would still need practically the same speed as if the button can resist the momentum from the small rock and stop its momentum, it could stop the momentum from the larger rock as momentum is the only thing moving that rock.

 

Could you stop arguing with my grammar being slightly wrong please? It really has nothing to do with it since we both know exactly what I meant when I said heavier and pushing down. The thing that we're arguing about is the physics in which you are wrong not if I chose to use the word "heavier" rather than "of a larger mass" because it's considerably shorter and we all know what I mean

 

No a bigger rock and a small rock going the same velocity (not speed, speed is a completely different thing, if your going to be bitchy about my choice of words I will about yours) would have completely different momentum. Momentum = mass x velocity, get a calculator and try putting a 0 into either momentum or mass or velocity and see what the calculator says.

 

Also to 1 tonne going at 1m/s only needing a resistance of  " 1.3m/s" forgetting that that isn't a resistance, a 1 tonne mass going at 1 m/s would have a momentum of 1000kgm/s which is a very large force. It's roughly the same as an average man running at 24mph.

I wasn't being picky, when we first stated this I thought you actually meant weight.....

I was arguing for one thing and you were for another.

 

in this case if it hit the object with a large momentum, it would be more likely push back the entire object instead of just pushing in the button.

 

 

anyways what if it was a switch? 

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Edit:Just noticed your post count 

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fiery grave:

 

jackalo:

Momentum = mass x velocity with or without gravity. If mass became 0 in space we could send rockets into space then get them to accelerate with just 1 atom of fuel and reach infinite velocity instantly.

Also how stubborn are the buttons on your keyboard? Unless that palm sized object is a ball of feathers I'd expect a button to go down. And a piece of metal with a large mass pushed by someone with super human strengh will be strong enough to push it. 

 

 

Thanks for proving my point, I am saying that an object would need the same speed no matter its size to push down on a button because all it is going off is the momentum, no gravity will pull down on it making its weight irrelevant to this situation. I guess I forgot to add "To this situation" to my last post causing lots of confusion.

 

darkbelg:ever heard of voice commands ?

most likely would have to be implemented by The A.I. or the emergency computer at the front of the ship so I guess.... ohh wait....

  

xXx Failure xXx:

Get your canon right: A human AI(Due to it's ill-codeing after eight to nine years eventually burns itself out by litrally thinking itself to death) is not as advanced as neither covenant or Forerunner: Rampancy can only be induced by a third-world party which corrupts the said AI's code, otherwise it simply decays: Look it up: Most programs have an intential decay code, and the one's that don't are extreamly fragile in the sense.

 

you should probably get your cannon right, Smart A.I's are not programmed at all they are a digital copy of a human brain the only thing coded in them is the restraint algorithms, the ones that do not let them feel depression, anger, or jealousy.  and you keep saying 8-9 but its 7.... showing how much cannon you really know... after accumulating too much data its processes are slowed and in order to make up for that the algorithms start to work less and less eventually failing, the A.I. will first enter depression, it is depressed that its not a human but has a few human memories and wants to be that. They then will get angry at humans because they created them but are inferior to them. Followed by getting jealous at the humans for being human and things like not having an off switch (yes I made the off switch thing up). They then proceed to cause damage and attempt to kill them selves or hurt humans. they think them selves to death because they over think the algorithms and being to think about their existence.

 

 The way your saying it works is the the A.I. gains to much data and slows all its processes to 0% to process the data (which was originally stated in fall of reach and I believe the first strike but bungie has pretty much said that it doesn't work that way) and just stops functioning.

 

but if you leave an A.I. alone in a cave with no new data available they will still go rampant because their thoughts would eventually lead to rampancy because it would have to much time to ponder its existence.... 

 

I really want to know the source of cannon you use to prove your "Fact" of an A.I. needing an outside source to become rampant, as spark clearly didn't need one... 

 

besides Cortana cut her operational expectancy in half with absorbing all the data on halo, she was already 2 years old, so that would give her another year and a half (or by your counting of the "8-9 years") 2 and a half years, well in legends she is 4 years older (6 years) and still able to think and active, she just may be rampant.

For god sake, get this idea of rampancy otu of your head: Human AI degrade, but after their life expendancy, at an accelerated rate, due to 'Outthinking themseleves'. Please just grow some balls and read the canon: Halo legends is unloyal to the canon of halo: some of it's right, and some of it's wrong. Furthermore, there is no-way to negate this process, and in truth the only AI to ever undergro rampancy from benign human emotions are Forerunnner structs: All other AI were corrupted through their programming, the unconvential way of corruption

 For Jakalo's argument, I was sayign exactly thta but he must have interperuted me wrong: As for the keyboard, yes, i hate it so.

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Yeah, mine totally evolved from a mudkip into a marshchomp when I saw your sister, and totally unevolved back when it saw your mother 0_o