was randomly trying builds (for team play) and what got my attention was the difference between the 2 most basic forge starting builds

now, the standard build seems to be SP, SP, SP, SP, R, R, VD then tanks. then i tried the quicker tanks build - SP SP SP R R VD _ (i went SP)

what i found was that there was barely any noticeable eco hit for only starting with three SPs. and of course, tanks could be gotten quicker. and since the first tank came out quicker i could expand quicker too

thoughts?

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i like to have a dual reactor and pump tanks out of two VDs   im not revealing my build order,i dont want people copying it. lol its that good.     Anyway i may not get my first couple of tanks out as fast as your build, but i get a full army a lot faster

UndeadSephiroth:i like to have a dual reactor and pump tanks out of two VDs   im not revealing my build order,i dont want people copying it. lol its that good.     Anyway i may not get my first couple of tanks out as fast as your build, but i get a full army a lot faster

Sephiroth, That advanced reactor build is no secret. so you dont have to worry about anyone stealing it,lol. The only reason you need 4 first is for a canister/wingman boom. That said I personally think the 3 SP build is better. You have the option to get a barracks with your 7th slot and get spartanks easily. hanging i have a pretty unique build with forge. If your interested i will PM it to you. This one is very much so a secret and is very good for 3v3 and 2v2 if you have a Covie teammate.

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l Slayer l:

K love has boosted a few games, but I know he hasnt went out of his way to do it or anything. /quote]

Mad Martigan:

UndeadSephiroth:i like to have a dual reactor and pump tanks out of two VDs   im not revealing my build order,i dont want people copying it. lol its that good.     Anyway i may not get my first couple of tanks out as fast as your build, but i get a full army a lot faster

Sephiroth, That advanced reactor build is no secret. so you dont have to worry about anyone stealing it,lol. The only reason you need 4 first is for a canister/wingman boom. That said I personally think the 3 SP build is better. You have the option to get a barracks with your 7th slot and get spartanks easily. hanging i have a pretty unique build with forge. If your interested i will PM it to you. This one is very much so a secret and is very good for 3v3 and 2v2 if you have a Covie teammate.

Any chance you could PM it to me? I wouldn't mind knowing a few basic Forge builds, i'm thinking of picking him up soon

When booming to tanks, I always use SP>SP>SP>R>R>VD>SP. From the moment you make your first tank you can always keep production going and you won't cripple your economy at all.

Without glitching, feeding, or hooks, this is by far the fastest way to get tank production up without leaving your ecomony in the toilet, and you really only lose 200-300 supplies using it instead of 4 supply pads.

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Gumbi:

Mad Martigan:

UndeadSephiroth:i like to have a dual reactor and pump tanks out of two VDs   im not revealing my build order,i dont want people copying it. lol its that good.     Anyway i may not get my first couple of tanks out as fast as your build, but i get a full army a lot faster

Sephiroth, That advanced reactor build is no secret. so you dont have to worry about anyone stealing it,lol. The only reason you need 4 first is for a canister/wingman boom. That said I personally think the 3 SP build is better. You have the option to get a barracks with your 7th slot and get spartanks easily. hanging i have a pretty unique build with forge. If your interested i will PM it to you. This one is very much so a secret and is very good for 3v3 and 2v2 if you have a Covie teammate.

Any chance you could PM it to me? I wouldn't mind knowing a few basic Forge builds, i'm thinking of picking him up soon

They're refering to the "quick-canister" build order.

It goes

SP>SP>SP>SP>SP>R>R>Adavanced Reactor>Sell SP>VD>Canister>Sell Reac>VD>Tanks

It's stable, but you need to be defended for quite a long time. Your first tank won't be out till 5:05, although after that they come out pretty quick.

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ExaltedVanguard:

Gumbi:

Mad Martigan:

UndeadSephiroth:i like to have a dual reactor and pump tanks out of two VDs   im not revealing my build order,i dont want people copying it. lol its that good.     Anyway i may not get my first couple of tanks out as fast as your build, but i get a full army a lot faster

Sephiroth, That advanced reactor build is no secret. so you dont have to worry about anyone stealing it,lol. The only reason you need 4 first is for a canister/wingman boom. That said I personally think the 3 SP build is better. You have the option to get a barracks with your 7th slot and get spartanks easily. hanging i have a pretty unique build with forge. If your interested i will PM it to you. This one is very much so a secret and is very good for 3v3 and 2v2 if you have a Covie teammate.

Any chance you could PM it to me? I wouldn't mind knowing a few basic Forge builds, i'm thinking of picking him up soon

They're refering to the "quick-canister" build order.

It goes

SP>SP>SP>SP>SP>R>R>Adavanced Reactor>Sell SP>VD>Canister>Sell Reac>VD>Tanks

It's stable, but you need to be defended for quite a long time. Your first tank won't be out till 5:05, although after that they come out pretty quick.

Lies...Gumbi my build is not a canister boom. not to mention that cani boom is wrong. The first SP you sell in that one hasn't even thought about paying for itself making building it in the first place retarded.  This

SP>SP>SP>SP>R>R>VD>AdvancedReactor>Canister>Sell Reac>VD>Tanks.

Gumbi check your PM for my BO

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l Slayer l:

K love has boosted a few games, but I know he hasnt went out of his way to do it or anything. /quote]

Mad Martigan:

ExaltedVanguard:

Gumbi:

Mad Martigan:

UndeadSephiroth:i like to have a dual reactor and pump tanks out of two VDs   im not revealing my build order,i dont want people copying it. lol its that good.     Anyway i may not get my first couple of tanks out as fast as your build, but i get a full army a lot faster

Sephiroth, That advanced reactor build is no secret. so you dont have to worry about anyone stealing it,lol. The only reason you need 4 first is for a canister/wingman boom. That said I personally think the 3 SP build is better. You have the option to get a barracks with your 7th slot and get spartanks easily. hanging i have a pretty unique build with forge. If your interested i will PM it to you. This one is very much so a secret and is very good for 3v3 and 2v2 if you have a Covie teammate.

Any chance you could PM it to me? I wouldn't mind knowing a few basic Forge builds, i'm thinking of picking him up soon

They're refering to the "quick-canister" build order.

It goes

SP>SP>SP>SP>SP>R>R>Adavanced Reactor>Sell SP>VD>Canister>Sell Reac>VD>Tanks

It's stable, but you need to be defended for quite a long time. Your first tank won't be out till 5:05, although after that they come out pretty quick.

Lies...Gumbi my build is not a canister boom. not to mention that cani boom is wrong. The first SP you sell in that one hasn't even thought about paying for itself making building it in the first place retarded.  This

SP>SP>SP>SP>R>R>VD>AdvancedReactor>Canister>Sell Reac>VD>Tanks.

Gumbi check your PM for my BO

Thanks

Gumbi:

Mad Martigan:

ExaltedVanguard:

Gumbi:

Mad Martigan:

UndeadSephiroth:i like to have a dual reactor and pump tanks out of two VDs   im not revealing my build order,i dont want people copying it. lol its that good.     Anyway i may not get my first couple of tanks out as fast as your build, but i get a full army a lot faster

Sephiroth, That advanced reactor build is no secret. so you dont have to worry about anyone stealing it,lol. The only reason you need 4 first is for a canister/wingman boom. That said I personally think the 3 SP build is better. You have the option to get a barracks with your 7th slot and get spartanks easily. hanging i have a pretty unique build with forge. If your interested i will PM it to you. This one is very much so a secret and is very good for 3v3 and 2v2 if you have a Covie teammate.

Any chance you could PM it to me? I wouldn't mind knowing a few basic Forge builds, i'm thinking of picking him up soon

They're refering to the "quick-canister" build order.

It goes

SP>SP>SP>SP>SP>R>R>Adavanced Reactor>Sell SP>VD>Canister>Sell Reac>VD>Tanks

It's stable, but you need to be defended for quite a long time. Your first tank won't be out till 5:05, although after that they come out pretty quick.

Lies...Gumbi my build is not a canister boom. not to mention that cani boom is wrong. The first SP you sell in that one hasn't even thought about paying for itself making building it in the first place retarded.  This

SP>SP>SP>SP>R>R>VD>AdvancedReactor>Canister>Sell Reac>VD>Tanks.

Gumbi check your PM for my BO

Thanks

Sorry i just finished it, well not finished, there are so many variables. But I promise it now in your PM

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l Slayer l:

K love has boosted a few games, but I know he hasnt went out of his way to do it or anything. /quote]

sp sp r r vd r sp delete reacter canister sp

keep pumping tanks, best canister build if all you want to do is spam them mid game

Why do alot of folks go Forge for his SP-SP-SP-R-R-VD-SP when Cutter can do it cheaper and faster? Here's my reasoning...

• Cutter can crank tanks from a single VD with just 4 unupgraded Supply pads.
• Forge gets HSP's, but is still limited to the single VD
• Either way, they're both cranking tanks at the same rate, except Cutter can do it faster

Now, if Forge goes with 2 VD's and an Advanced Reactor, he only gets to fire up his 2nd VD for a VERY short time. That is to say, Forge's first VD will consume 80% of his Resources, so the 2nd only gets tanks out maybe 20-30% faster.

Cutter can do all this, but faster. Plus, he can make an elephant for Spartanks without sacrificing a build slot. And the ROFLelephant can support his attack with Flamers to stop hunters, other spartans, etc.

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orcle:

sp sp r r vd r sp delete reacter canister sp

keep pumping tanks, best canister build if all you want to do is spam them mid game

Your economy is about as healthy as Bear Stearns if you go that build order. Two HSPs is not enough.

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WaffenSS Killer:

orcle:

sp sp r r vd r sp delete reacter canister sp

keep pumping tanks, best canister build if all you want to do is spam them mid game

Your economy is about as healthy as Bear Stearns if you go that build order. Two HSPs is not enough.

yo replace the 3rd reactor with a sp and get a fourth on your 7th slot. I have never tried getting canister this way. id have to try it. I personally hate that qiuck tank build. Eco is in the dumpster the entire match.

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l Slayer l:

K love has boosted a few games, but I know he hasnt went out of his way to do it or anything. /quote]

WaffenSS Killer:

Why do alot of folks go Forge for his SP-SP-SP-R-R-VD-SP when Cutter can do it cheaper and faster?No he can't. Here's my reasoning...

• Cutter can crank tanks from a single VD with just 4 unupgraded Supply pads.  Are you gonna upgrade those?
  
• Forge gets HSP's, but is still limited to the single VD  Not sure what your on about here,I dual pump all day with forge
  
• Either way, they're both cranking tanks at the same rate, except Cutter can do it faster. Again no he cant, hes about 30 seconds or a tank behind until late game
  

Now, if Forge goes with 2 VD's and an Advanced Reactor, he only gets to fire up his 2nd VD for a VERY short time. That is to say, Forge's first VD will consume 80% of his Resources, so the 2nd only gets tanks out maybe 20-30% faster.Its only supposed to be there for a short time. Eco cant handle a dual pump off one base. No ones can

Cutter can do all this, but faster. Plus, he can make an elephant for Spartanks without sacrificing a build slot. And the ROFLelephant can support his attack with Flamers to stop hunters, other spartans, etc. Canister boom> get barracks and spartans instead of dual pump, spartanks up a tech and before you. Flamers if I want em. The only way cutter can out tank forge is a quick expand, even then he barely out tanks Forge until late game.

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l Slayer l:

K love has boosted a few games, but I know he hasnt went out of his way to do it or anything. /quote]

Mad Martigan:

WaffenSS Killer:

Why do alot of folks go Forge for his SP-SP-SP-R-R-VD-SP when Cutter can do it cheaper and faster?No he can't. Here's my reasoning...

• Cutter can crank tanks from a single VD with just 4 unupgraded Supply pads.  Are you gonna upgrade those?
  
• Forge gets HSP's, but is still limited to the single VD  Not sure what your on about here,I dual pump all day with forge
  
• Either way, they're both cranking tanks at the same rate, except Cutter can do it faster. Again no he cant, hes about 30 seconds or a tank behind until late game
  

Now, if Forge goes with 2 VD's and an Advanced Reactor, he only gets to fire up his 2nd VD for a VERY short time. That is to say, Forge's first VD will consume 80% of his Resources, so the 2nd only gets tanks out maybe 20-30% faster.Its only supposed to be there for a short time. Eco cant handle a dual pump off one base. No ones can

Cutter can do all this, but faster. Plus, he can make an elephant for Spartanks without sacrificing a build slot. And the ROFLelephant can support his attack with Flamers to stop hunters, other spartans, etc. Canister boom> get barracks and spartans instead of dual pump, spartanks up a tech and before you. Flamers if I want em. The only way cutter can out tank forge is a quick expand, even then he barely out tanks Forge until late game.

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Cutter can in fact get Canister Tanks faster than Forge, and he can have more out first, his problem is double pumping them effectively.

Cutter can only out-produce Forge's tanks on Exile where he gets a free base.

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"Die?"Kurt laughed."Didn't you know?"he told the Elite. "...Spartans never die."