New Rule on "Leaving."

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  •  10-30-2009, 5:34 PM 761500 in reply to 761292

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius:I'll go ahead and respond to this.

    There isn't much we can do about boosting. Playing legitimate matchmade games is playing legitimate matchmade games. We can't take a microscope to all 30,000+ games played every day. I don't delete 99% of the posts about boosters, I delete the 1% where they devolve into profanity and flaming and are against the code of conduct.

    OK. But there were plenty of situations where iEchoic or others would provide several games of evidence. it really wouldn't have been hard to check those out and make a decision based on the evidence you were provided with.

    Aloysius:Title Updates on consoles are a very complicated thing, a lot more goes in to it than "someone on the forum named "Xx_WeedPot420Goku_xX thinks Grunts need a buff, let's get a patch out today!" There are business decisions well above my head that go in to it, but I report all of the glitches you guys report, we test them out and put them in our bug database. The people who make balance decisions have ideas of what they're going to do and when the decisions are made and finalized for a patch I can announce it, but not before. Saying "Oh we're thinking about maybe patching" and then not patching would be a really bad idea. You guys would go nuts. I announce things as soon as I can legitimately say what is going to be in the patch, and when it's going to come out. We have to work with Xbox Live on timing of actual patch rollout, and sometimes they don't give us a lot of lead time. We're working on that, but there's not a lot we can do.

    Glitches are looked at, every one that is reported on the forums is investigated. It's just we're not going to redo the entire pathing/combat/build system because the Arbiter gets stuck once every 500 games while raging over mountains. We know about that glitch, trust us.

    Fine, so it takes a while to develop and release a patch, but there are a lot more glitches than an Arbiter getting stuck (not to mention that he glitches fairly often), and they were talked about, but never fixed. If the pathfinding is bunk, then it should be fixed whether it's on your developer's Christmas wishlist or not.

    Aloysius:I disagree with your assessment that I haven't supported the Community one bit. I've given out hundreds of DLC Codes for Flaming Warthogs, Honor Guard Wraiths and both DLC. I've started up the Dev Blogs and the Skirmish Map pages so the community could better see what went into making Halo Wars. Everyone wanted to know more about why we didn't have a free build system, so I got the Lead Designer to write a Dev Blog on why. We had a play with Devs night that went over pretty well. I answer as many questions as I can for the Fan Fic writers over in the Halo-Verse.

    A lot of us (myself included) who complain about lack of support are talking more about the actual game and not so much about the forums (but that's already been talked about a little above). And while I like how you've tightend up on the rules now, there was a while where bans were seemingly randomly given out. Mostly to critics of your decisions, and not so much to people who actually deserved them (IMO). One "Play With the Devs" night doesn't do much as support for the console...

    Aloysius:Unit Stats are coming out this late because the designers didn't want people to theorycraft early on after release. Also they are significantly more complicated than I originally imagined, and took me quite a bit of time and effort to get them to where they are now.

    In all of this, don't forget that the company that made the game, Ensemble Studios, was told it was closing 6 months before the release of the game. This had an impact on everything, including post-ship support.

    OK. So that is fair then, not your fault, but it sounds like ES got lazy, which may also be fair considering they were about to close. But really, they should have kept enough staff to make a high polish game, and not the rushed version that we got. It is a very good game, no denying it that. But it is still very buggy, and the pathfinding....speaks for itself.

    Aloysius:Obviously you're unhappy, you talk about it in every recent post. I know the UAE doesn't have support for Xbox Live and that is negatively impacting your experience, but Halo Wars and Robot Entertainment can't do anything about it.

    So yes, I understand your frustration, but you are way off base with your second to last paragraph.

    I'll let FJ respond to that one.

    Aloysius:edit: I know I"m going to get a bunch of questions on this so I'll clarify. The decision to make and announce patches is way above my head. There are business decisions, and PR decisions for not announcing stuff until we're 100% sure of what's going in to the patch and when it is coming out. The people who make those decisions and the people who announce it (me) have been doing this kind of thing for a very long time, and we learned our lesson long ago not to announce things until we're 100% sure. The feedback that occurs if we announce things that don't come about, or miss a date is much, much worse than the feedback for staying quiet until we're ready.

    Most of us know it's not your decision to make new patches, but it's our only way of communicating with Robot...or at least the easiest way of communicating with Robot. I know I take a lot of my frustration out on you, and I shouldn't, but you're the only person associated with Robot that I'm not too lazy too gripe to.

    Thanks for the lengthy post though, it did help clarify some stuff for myself as well as others.


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  •  10-30-2009, 5:35 PM 761501 in reply to 760838

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Lololololol

    "Convince me to stay!*

    "No" *Perma-Bans*

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  •  10-30-2009, 5:42 PM 761508 in reply to 761501

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    I FJ I is a nutter to leave the greatest country in the world, also he fails to use his brain further to understand the complexity of making a game, glad Aloysius pwned I FJ I and gave us insight to his views and how things work, thanks and keep up the good work.

  •  10-30-2009, 6:27 PM 761550 in reply to 761508

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Wait- what?? What country?

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    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

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  •  10-30-2009, 6:34 PM 761551 in reply to 761550

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Spartan R41:Wait- what?? What country?
    Oh silly me I FJ I is from England, like me.
  •  10-30-2009, 6:57 PM 761560 in reply to 761551

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    I'm not going to delve into that. That's one big flame war waiting to happen. Needless to say, knock it off. T_T

    Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

    Halo: Archangel
  •  10-30-2009, 7:12 PM 761562 in reply to 761508

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Boneduster:

    I FJ I is a nutter to leave the greatest country in the world, also he fails to use his brain further to understand the complexity of making a game, glad Aloysius pwned I FJ I and gave us insight to his views and how things work, thanks and keep up the good work.

    Aloysius:5) Off-topic posts. It's okay to talk about Halo 3: ODST, but discussions about other RTS games are off-topic. Also there has been a lot of flaming about nationality lately, and I will be taking a hard look at posts that talk about that.


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  •  10-30-2009, 7:18 PM 761564 in reply to 761292

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius:I'll go ahead and respond to this.

    There isn't much we can do about boosting. Playing legitimate matchmade games is playing legitimate matchmade games. We can't take a microscope to all 30,000+ games played every day. I don't delete 99% of the posts about boosters, I delete the 1% where they devolve into profanity and flaming and are against the code of conduct.

    Title Updates on consoles are a very complicated thing, a lot more goes in to it than "someone on the forum named "Xx_WeedPot420Goku_xX thinks Grunts need a buff, let's get a patch out today!" There are business decisions well above my head that go in to it, but I report all of the glitches you guys report, we test them out and put them in our bug database. The people who make balance decisions have ideas of what they're going to do and when the decisions are made and finalized for a patch I can announce it, but not before. Saying "Oh we're thinking about maybe patching" and then not patching would be a really bad idea. You guys would go nuts. I announce things as soon as I can legitimately say what is going to be in the patch, and when it's going to come out. We have to work with Xbox Live on timing of actual patch rollout, and sometimes they don't give us a lot of lead time. We're working on that, but there's not a lot we can do.

    Glitches are looked at, every one that is reported on the forums is investigated. It's just we're not going to redo the entire pathing/combat/build system because the Arbiter gets stuck once every 500 games while raging over mountains. We know about that glitch, trust us.

    I disagree with your assessment that I haven't supported the Community one bit. I've given out hundreds of DLC Codes for Flaming Warthogs, Honor Guard Wraiths and both DLC. I've started up the Dev Blogs and the Skirmish Map pages so the community could better see what went into making Halo Wars. Everyone wanted to know more about why we didn't have a free build system, so I got the Lead Designer to write a Dev Blog on why. We had a play with Devs night that went over pretty well. I answer as many questions as I can for the Fan Fic writers over in the Halo-Verse.

    Unit Stats are coming out this late because the designers didn't want people to theorycraft early on after release. Also they are significantly more complicated than I originally imagined, and took me quite a bit of time and effort to get them to where they are now.

    In all of this, don't forget that the company that made the game, Ensemble Studios, was told it was closing 6 months before the release of the game. This had an impact on everything, including post-ship support.

    Obviously you're unhappy, you talk about it in every recent post. I know the UAE doesn't have support for Xbox Live and that is negatively impacting your experience, but Halo Wars and Robot Entertainment can't do anything about it.

    So yes, I understand your frustration, but you are way off base with your second to last paragraph.

    edit: I know I"m going to get a bunch of questions on this so I'll clarify. The decision to make and announce patches is way above my head. There are business decisions, and PR decisions for not announcing stuff until we're 100% sure of what's going in to the patch and when it is coming out. The people who make those decisions and the people who announce it (me) have been doing this kind of thing for a very long time, and we learned our lesson long ago not to announce things until we're 100% sure. The feedback that occurs if we announce things that don't come about, or miss a date is much, much worse than the feedback for staying quiet until we're ready.

    Wow...Alloysius, I have to say...I am simply overjoyed that you're finally coming out to speak openly to us like this. You no longer make yourself seem like a Banhammer-happy entity that 'randomly' bans people. (You banned me for Spam when I was trying to quiet down a real spammer...) I'm not saying you sucked...it's just that, IMO, communication is most important.  ^_^

    PS  My sig is just meant to be a random joke...please take no offense from it, k ?  =)


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  •  10-30-2009, 7:24 PM 761568 in reply to 761564

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius RuLeZ!
    I am Aloysius's best cub scout!

    But now I have a new heart to win over.
  •  10-30-2009, 7:47 PM 761573 in reply to 761568

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    wise bass18:Aloysius RuLeZ!

    I only wish you thought that way about spelling and grammer.



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  •  10-30-2009, 7:53 PM 761575 in reply to 761551

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Boneduster:
    Spartan R41:Wait- what?? What country?
    Oh silly me I FJ I is from England, like me.

    Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
    What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
    O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
    O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
    Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
    What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
    In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
    'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
    That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
    A home and a country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
    Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
    Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
    Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
    Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
    And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    USA ftw

  •  10-30-2009, 8:05 PM 761576 in reply to 761575

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    When Britain first, at Heaven's command
    Arose from out the azure main;
    This was the charter of the land,
    And guardian angels sang this strain:
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

    Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
    More dreadful, from each foreign stroke;
    As the loud blast that tears the skies,
    Serves but to root thy native oak.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

    Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame:
    All their attempts to bend thee down,
    Will but arouse thy generous flame;
    But work their woe, and thy renown.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

    The Muses, still with freedom found,
    Shall to thy happy coast repair;
    Blest Isle! With matchless beauty crown'd,
    And manly hearts to guard the fair.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

     

    Two can play at that game ;) Anywho, I see FJ has finally snapped. Good riddance to him.


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  •  10-30-2009, 8:17 PM 761592 in reply to 761576

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    The forum go'ers cries go unheard
    Their threats of quitting drifting silently into the air
    An intrepid statement, if only Aloy wasn't such a turd ((EDIT NOTE: HE IS NO MORE. WRITTEN WEEKS 'GO.))
    My oh my, with this Arbiter--how will my Anders fair?

    My oh my what a wonderful day!
    Hours and hours of crying online
    So caught up in yourself, no one else gets a say
    Little do you know, that this game is actually fine

    Why can't we all get along?
    Are we that childish, that we must be right?
    Your mom says your special, so everyone else is wrong
    Let's spend all day playing Forum Wars and have a grand ol' fight

    Leader rushes are overpowered!
    And "such and such rush" too!
    Ever heard of turret towers?
    To much time whining--bloody tool

    Perhaps we can spend time discussing how to overcome
    And even fun strategies that we can discuss
    Haha! But making myself look like an idiot is much more fun!
    Perhaps one day brains will grow, for the rest of us.

    Shut the heck up all of you
    You're all bloody fools
    Stuck to your idiotic ideas like glue
    You're not original, just a tool.

    ~Written by, Korther.  Trollingyourmom Inc.


    Aloysius:
    -Less than half a of percent of players have the General rank on Xbox Live.


    How is the General rank fair again?

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  •  10-30-2009, 8:25 PM 761595 in reply to 761576

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Offensive Bias:

    When Britain first, at Heaven's command
    Arose from out the azure main;
    This was the charter of the land,
    And guardian angels sang this strain:
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

    Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
    More dreadful, from each foreign stroke;
    As the loud blast that tears the skies,
    Serves but to root thy native oak.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

    Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame:
    All their attempts to bend thee down,
    Will but arouse thy generous flame;
    But work their woe, and thy renown.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

    The Muses, still with freedom found,
    Shall to thy happy coast repair;
    Blest Isle! With matchless beauty crown'd,
    And manly hearts to guard the fair.
    "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves:
    "Britons never will be slaves."

     

    Two can play at that game ;) Anywho, I see FJ has finally snapped. Good riddance to him.

    Hey OB, I found this in my old internet history cached site crap.

     http://s987.photobucket.com/albums/ae358/YouKnowWhoIAm/?action=view&current=sparky.gif&newest=1

    Is I think you know what that is :) 


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  •  10-30-2009, 10:44 PM 761734 in reply to 761595

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Whoever mentioned the double xp weekend, that is a really great idea.  I don't know how much effort it would take, but I know that a lot of people would get on for that weekend.  Maybe some dedicated members could finally get general.

    \(°Д°)/ :

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    He gets the job done, but he sometimes kills the innocent.


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    I hear boosting overheats your 360.
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