New Rule on "Leaving."

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  •  10-30-2009, 11:18 AM 761302 in reply to 761296

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    People seriously need to stop bashing Robot. Game designers tend to do the best they can with what they have. And they energy people waste complaing could be used for better things. Games are COMPLICATED. We only see the finished product not the coding and everything else that go into them. So please people, gives Robot a break. And since Aloy is the moderator, he gets bashed even worse. Some people on here seem to think that he made the game and that all we should all hate him. It's not true. He is just the only Robot member we see/interact with on the Forums. Please give him a break.
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  •  10-30-2009, 11:27 AM 761304 in reply to 761302

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    robot is <4

     

    since it goes like this

     

    no love <3 <4 

    <4 is the highest attained love for something, This is reserved for my GF, and Robot for this incredible game:-D


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  •  10-30-2009, 12:06 PM 761308 in reply to 761294

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    ANTIMANGINA:

    Spartan R41:Why should he? Often it's people being displeased with the game's story, lack of skill (complaining about matters that aren't a "problem" so much as lack of strategy) or just plain attention whoring - as he said. How can those be helped? They can't.
    I think aloy is doing the right thing.

    You have all these players who think they speak for the entire community, when the only thing they really care about is a booster besting them on a leaderboard. A leaderboard for a game they constantly exude their displeasure for. They repeatedly complain in a glass half-empty manner and I for one will not miss the negativity, the belittling of others players for "being terrible at this game", flame and all around self-importance these players bring to the forums. The simple fact that you would even make a thread about you leaving shows that they are extremely arrogant and think way too highly of themselves. I guarantee that most of the community does not care. If you have friends here and want to let them know your going, then send them a PM and be on your way.

    I don't know if you were directing that at me, or referencing me, but I'm 100% behind Aloysius. 


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  •  10-30-2009, 12:50 PM 761325 in reply to 761308

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius . . . you just became my all-time favorite mod!!

    not just for the OP, but for your stance. This is a business and if you had a customer in your super market yelling his head off saying, "Hey, shoppers! This place is horrible! I'm going to leave now! Don't ever shop here again!" and they keep saying it from the produce isle, then i'd gladly escort them out and tell them not to come back.

    wow, that was probably a bad example, but hopefully you get me point.


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  •  10-30-2009, 1:55 PM 761363 in reply to 761308

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Spartan R41:
    ANTIMANGINA:

    Spartan R41:Why should he? Often it's people being displeased with the game's story, lack of skill (complaining about matters that aren't a "problem" so much as lack of strategy) or just plain attention whoring - as he said. How can those be helped? They can't.
    I think aloy is doing the right thing.

    You have all these players who think they speak for the entire community, when the only thing they really care about is a booster besting them on a leaderboard. A leaderboard for a game they constantly exude their displeasure for. They repeatedly complain in a glass half-empty manner and I for one will not miss the negativity, the belittling of others players for "being terrible at this game", flame and all around self-importance these players bring to the forums. The simple fact that you would even make a thread about you leaving shows that they are extremely arrogant and think way too highly of themselves. I guarantee that most of the community does not care. If you have friends here and want to let them know your going, then send them a PM and be on your way.


    I don't know if you were directing that at me, or referencing me, but I'm 100% behind Aloysius. 

    I actually meant to just reply but accidentally quoted you. sorry.
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  •  10-30-2009, 2:01 PM 761368 in reply to 761325

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Meh, I've seen better hammers to the floor but this sure is up there.

    Aloysius:
    -Less than half a of percent of players have the General rank on Xbox Live.


    How is the General rank fair again?

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  •  10-30-2009, 2:30 PM 761381 in reply to 761292

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

     I'm with Aloysius on this one even though I agree on most points made in, amongst others, I FJ I's post. Ensemble/Robot deserves some credit for finishing a game in such a way. I do think that you're missing out on a few oppurtunities; you could have introduced Double-XP Weekends (or something similiar) for example. 

    Some more dedication to the forums or having multiply mods would be a good thing though. For example, the topic with the rush tictacs, that had nothing to do with any HW tactics at all ...

     

  •  10-30-2009, 2:34 PM 761386 in reply to 761381

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    OneChance:

     I'm with Aloysius on this one even though I agree on most points made in, amongst others, I FJ I's post. Ensemble/Robot deserves some credit for finishing a game in such a way. I do think that you're missing out on a few oppurtunities; you could have introduced Double-XP Weekends (or something similiar) for example. 

    Some more dedication to the forums or having multiply mods would be a good thing though. For example, the topic with the rush tictacs, that had nothing to do with any HW tactics at all ...

     

    I agree with OneChance 100%

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  •  10-30-2009, 2:36 PM 761388 in reply to 761368

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius is now the greatest person I have ever had the pleasure to E-stalk on this entire site.

    Attack any member who ever violently disagrees and/or attacks you back. FJ can cry and suck his thumb in a corner now that you've told him off.

    And in return I will now sacrifice the small amount of space which you have provided us to show off our personalities, to you. The most superultragodlyuberbeast that moderates my new favorite website!

     

    Love,

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  •  10-30-2009, 2:55 PM 761396 in reply to 761292

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius:I'll go ahead and respond to this.

    There isn't much we can do about boosting. Playing legitimate matchmade games is playing legitimate matchmade games. We can't take a microscope to all 30,000+ games played every day. I don't delete 99% of the posts about boosters, I delete the 1% where they devolve into profanity and flaming and are against the code of conduct.

    Title Updates on consoles are a very complicated thing, a lot more goes in to it than "someone on the forum named "Xx_WeedPot420Goku_xX thinks Grunts need a buff, let's get a patch out today!" There are business decisions well above my head that go in to it, but I report all of the glitches you guys report, we test them out and put them in our bug database. The people who make balance decisions have ideas of what they're going to do and when the decisions are made and finalized for a patch I can announce it, but not before. Saying "Oh we're thinking about maybe patching" and then not patching would be a really bad idea. You guys would go nuts. I announce things as soon as I can legitimately say what is going to be in the patch, and when it's going to come out. We have to work with Xbox Live on timing of actual patch rollout, and sometimes they don't give us a lot of lead time. We're working on that, but there's not a lot we can do.

    Glitches are looked at, every one that is reported on the forums is investigated. It's just we're not going to redo the entire pathing/combat/build system because the Arbiter gets stuck once every 500 games while raging over mountains. We know about that glitch, trust us.

    I disagree with your assessment that I haven't supported the Community one bit. I've given out hundreds of DLC Codes for Flaming Warthogs, Honor Guard Wraiths and both DLC. I've started up the Dev Blogs and the Skirmish Map pages so the community could better see what went into making Halo Wars. Everyone wanted to know more about why we didn't have a free build system, so I got the Lead Designer to write a Dev Blog on why. We had a play with Devs night that went over pretty well. I answer as many questions as I can for the Fan Fic writers over in the Halo-Verse.

    Unit Stats are coming out this late because the designers didn't want people to theorycraft early on after release. Also they are significantly more complicated than I originally imagined, and took me quite a bit of time and effort to get them to where they are now.

    In all of this, don't forget that the company that made the game, Ensemble Studios, was told it was closing 6 months before the release of the game. This had an impact on everything, including post-ship support.

    Obviously you're unhappy, you talk about it in every recent post. I know the UAE doesn't have support for Xbox Live and that is negatively impacting your experience, but Halo Wars and Robot Entertainment can't do anything about it.

    So yes, I understand your frustration, but you are way off base with your second to last paragraph.

    edit: I know I"m going to get a bunch of questions on this so I'll clarify. The decision to make and announce patches is way above my head. There are business decisions, and PR decisions for not announcing stuff until we're 100% sure of what's going in to the patch and when it is coming out. The people who make those decisions and the people who announce it (me) have been doing this kind of thing for a very long time, and we learned our lesson long ago not to announce things until we're 100% sure. The feedback that occurs if we announce things that don't come about, or miss a date is much, much worse than the feedback for staying quiet until we're ready.

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  •  10-30-2009, 4:03 PM 761429 in reply to 761292

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Having been one of the biggest fans/critics of Halo Wars I'd like to make this observation

    Using the general discussion forum to "announce" that you are fed up with/selling your game/leaving the forums is obviously a cry for attention, especially since 90% of the time none of these things actually happen. It's usually a ploy to see who's with them.

    I come to these forums daily, at first to try to pick up some tips, and when that started getting old I more or less just amused myself with the "fix this buff that" stuff. I expressed my opinions about the story line stuff, and did what I thought I could to defend robot's position with regards to how they managed to get the game out despite all odds. I have read quite a bit of criticism lately concerning the lack of patches and/or new content and booster banning, as well as the lack of response to such criticism. However, the response to people saying that they are leaving has been swift and sure.

    I learned more from your last post than I have learned from reading the forums for the last three months. I'm happy to know your reasons for your reluctance to respond. I see your points and they are well taken. However, I made a post in another thread that there would be no patches or dlc ever and there was no response to that.

    Helping people out the door who say they are leaving is ok by me, but how about some love for those of us that want to stay? You know how you feel when you hear the Government say we can't handle the truth? We can handle it. You don't have to tell us what's going into the patch or when it's coming out. I would be nice to know that you're working on one. That's better than nothing.

    Keep up the good work.

  •  10-30-2009, 4:15 PM 761436 in reply to 761292

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius:I'll go ahead and respond to this.

    There isn't much we can do about boosting. Playing legitimate matchmade games is playing legitimate matchmade games. We can't take a microscope to all 30,000+ games played every day. I don't delete 99% of the posts about boosters, I delete the 1% where they devolve into profanity and flaming and are against the code of conduct.

    Title Updates on consoles are a very complicated thing, a lot more goes in to it than "someone on the forum named "Xx_WeedPot420Goku_xX thinks Grunts need a buff, let's get a patch out today!" There are business decisions well above my head that go in to it, but I report all of the glitches you guys report, we test them out and put them in our bug database. The people who make balance decisions have ideas of what they're going to do and when the decisions are made and finalized for a patch I can announce it, but not before. Saying "Oh we're thinking about maybe patching" and then not patching would be a really bad idea. You guys would go nuts. I announce things as soon as I can legitimately say what is going to be in the patch, and when it's going to come out. We have to work with Xbox Live on timing of actual patch rollout, and sometimes they don't give us a lot of lead time. We're working on that, but there's not a lot we can do.

    Glitches are looked at, every one that is reported on the forums is investigated. It's just we're not going to redo the entire pathing/combat/build system because the Arbiter gets stuck once every 500 games while raging over mountains. We know about that glitch, trust us.

    I disagree with your assessment that I haven't supported the Community one bit. I've given out hundreds of DLC Codes for Flaming Warthogs, Honor Guard Wraiths and both DLC. I've started up the Dev Blogs and the Skirmish Map pages so the community could better see what went into making Halo Wars. Everyone wanted to know more about why we didn't have a free build system, so I got the Lead Designer to write a Dev Blog on why. We had a play with Devs night that went over pretty well. I answer as many questions as I can for the Fan Fic writers over in the Halo-Verse.

    Unit Stats are coming out this late because the designers didn't want people to theorycraft early on after release. Also they are significantly more complicated than I originally imagined, and took me quite a bit of time and effort to get them to where they are now.

    In all of this, don't forget that the company that made the game, Ensemble Studios, was told it was closing 6 months before the release of the game. This had an impact on everything, including post-ship support.

    Obviously you're unhappy, you talk about it in every recent post. I know the UAE doesn't have support for Xbox Live and that is negatively impacting your experience, but Halo Wars and Robot Entertainment can't do anything about it.

    So yes, I understand your frustration, but you are way off base with your second to last paragraph.

    edit: I know I"m going to get a bunch of questions on this so I'll clarify. The decision to make and announce patches is way above my head. There are business decisions, and PR decisions for not announcing stuff until we're 100% sure of what's going in to the patch and when it is coming out. The people who make those decisions and the people who announce it (me) have been doing this kind of thing for a very long time, and we learned our lesson long ago not to announce things until we're 100% sure. The feedback that occurs if we announce things that don't come about, or miss a date is much, much worse than the feedback for staying quiet until we're ready.

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  •  10-30-2009, 4:52 PM 761457 in reply to 761292

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Aloysius:I'll go ahead and respond to this.

    There isn't much we can do about boosting. Playing legitimate matchmade games is playing legitimate matchmade games. We can't take a microscope to all 30,000+ games played every day. I don't delete 99% of the posts about boosters, I delete the 1% where they devolve into profanity and flaming and are against the code of conduct.

    Title Updates on consoles are a very complicated thing, a lot more goes in to it than "someone on the forum named "Xx_WeedPot420Goku_xX thinks Grunts need a buff, let's get a patch out today!" There are business decisions well above my head that go in to it, but I report all of the glitches you guys report, we test them out and put them in our bug database. The people who make balance decisions have ideas of what they're going to do and when the decisions are made and finalized for a patch I can announce it, but not before. Saying "Oh we're thinking about maybe patching" and then not patching would be a really bad idea. You guys would go nuts. I announce things as soon as I can legitimately say what is going to be in the patch, and when it's going to come out. We have to work with Xbox Live on timing of actual patch rollout, and sometimes they don't give us a lot of lead time. We're working on that, but there's not a lot we can do.

    Glitches are looked at, every one that is reported on the forums is investigated. It's just we're not going to redo the entire pathing/combat/build system because the Arbiter gets stuck once every 500 games while raging over mountains. We know about that glitch, trust us.

    I disagree with your assessment that I haven't supported the Community one bit. I've given out hundreds of DLC Codes for Flaming Warthogs, Honor Guard Wraiths and both DLC. I've started up the Dev Blogs and the Skirmish Map pages so the community could better see what went into making Halo Wars. Everyone wanted to know more about why we didn't have a free build system, so I got the Lead Designer to write a Dev Blog on why. We had a play with Devs night that went over pretty well. I answer as many questions as I can for the Fan Fic writers over in the Halo-Verse.

    Unit Stats are coming out this late because the designers didn't want people to theorycraft early on after release. Also they are significantly more complicated than I originally imagined, and took me quite a bit of time and effort to get them to where they are now.

    In all of this, don't forget that the company that made the game, Ensemble Studios, was told it was closing 6 months before the release of the game. This had an impact on everything, including post-ship support.

    Obviously you're unhappy, you talk about it in every recent post. I know the UAE doesn't have support for Xbox Live and that is negatively impacting your experience, but Halo Wars and Robot Entertainment can't do anything about it.

    So yes, I understand your frustration, but you are way off base with your second to last paragraph.

    edit: I know I"m going to get a bunch of questions on this so I'll clarify. The decision to make and announce patches is way above my head. There are business decisions, and PR decisions for not announcing stuff until we're 100% sure of what's going in to the patch and when it is coming out. The people who make those decisions and the people who announce it (me) have been doing this kind of thing for a very long time, and we learned our lesson long ago not to announce things until we're 100% sure. The feedback that occurs if we announce things that don't come about, or miss a date is much, much worse than the feedback for staying quiet until we're ready.

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  •  10-30-2009, 5:18 PM 761491 in reply to 761429

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    Prophet of Fury:

    Having been one of the biggest fans/critics of Halo Wars I'd like to make this observation

    Using the general discussion forum to "announce" that you are fed up with/selling your game/leaving the forums is obviously a cry for attention, especially since 90% of the time none of these things actually happen. It's usually a ploy to see who's with them.

    I come to these forums daily, at first to try to pick up some tips, and when that started getting old I more or less just amused myself with the "fix this buff that" stuff. I expressed my opinions about the story line stuff, and did what I thought I could to defend robot's position with regards to how they managed to get the game out despite all odds. I have read quite a bit of criticism lately concerning the lack of patches and/or new content and booster banning, as well as the lack of response to such criticism. However, the response to people saying that they are leaving has been swift and sure.

    I learned more from your last post than I have learned from reading the forums for the last three months. I'm happy to know your reasons for your reluctance to respond. I see your points and they are well taken. However, I made a post in another thread that there would be no patches or dlc ever and there was no response to that.

    Helping people out the door who say they are leaving is ok by me, but how about some love for those of us that want to stay? You know how you feel when you hear the Government say we can't handle the truth? We can handle it. You don't have to tell us what's going into the patch or when it's coming out. I would be nice to know that you're working on one. That's better than nothing.

    Keep up the good work.

    extremely well put. but has anyone noticed that instead of Echoic fans v Prince fans, its now Aloy fans v Aloy haters.
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  •  10-30-2009, 5:30 PM 761498 in reply to 760783

    Re: New Rule on "Leaving."

    If it's someone good that contributed to the forum, don't delete them. But actually, this idea isn't half bad.... they always start flame wars. Probably one of your few good ideas, "Aloysius". ;D  (You know what I'm talking about)

    Also, please check threads every now and then for spammers... like Sparta. And please ban flame war starters that intentionally blow up the forums :D


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