VaultingFrog 2:

Paulus Magintie:WTF are u blabbing about heres the page on halopedia for the gettysburg it only went to sigmus octimus,reach and earth

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Gettysburg

Please actually take the time to read my post. I went from talking about the UNSC Gettysburg to the UNSC Dusk. Those are two different vessels.

You said that the UNSC Gettysburg was the fastest Slipspace vessel the UNSC had to offer. More or less due to the installed Covenant drive system. I however presented a problem with the "speeds" at which that drive system operates.

That problem is represented by the UNSC [/i]Dusk[/i] and its travel times. Things just do not add up.

And furthermore we dont even know when Spartan-117 actually arrived on Earth after the events of Halo CE and First Strike. There is a 37 day gap between the destruction of the Unyielding Hierophant and the First Battle of Earth. The [/i]Unyielding Hierophant[/i] was destroyed in the Tau Ceti System (~11.9 lightyears from Earth). That means a normal UNSC vessel could make the trip in just over 5 and a half days with a straight jump. Since we dont know the required number of random jumps UNSC vessels have to take before being allowed to jump to a human controlled world (Cole Protocol) we dont know how long their journy took. I would estimate that 2 random jumps would be sufficent (about a days worth of distance each) then a straight jump to Earth. So more than likely it would have taken them closer to 7 and a half days to make it back to Earth.

There are too many inconsistancies and unknowns to call the UNSC Gettysburg the fastest human vessel.

I just did the math for Lieutenant Wagner's run from Reach to Earth. He did 10.5 lightyears in 4 days. That is well beond the known max speed of UNSC vessels in Slipspace. That is ~2.6 lightyears a day instead of the confirmed 2.1 lightyears a day. A whole difference of half a lightyear per day.

Do you not see my problem here?

U found a debate that was'nt even mention somehow. at no point did i say anything about the UNSC dusk only the gettysburg and yes i was wrong to say the gettysburg is the fast slipspace ship so i changed it to the fast ship in the UNSC which i may add your not agreeing with even though i posted a link that tells u the same thing. why your trying to prove it wrong is beyond me.

i really dont give a a dam about the math and u keep saying one ship goes 1 speed so another could'nt, In halo CE it 3rd sentance at the beginning of the game cortana states the covenant ships have always been faster so adding the slipspace drive from a covie to an UNSC ship would make the UNSC ship much faster.

and your blabbering the ship has been to delta halo to oynx to earth or wat eva an then saying the dusk has gone other places or what eva and comparing them :S when the facts ur adding are totally wrong,

The gettysburg was already as reach the covie ship captured by john was taken to reach join with the gettysburg went to destroy the unyeilding hyaphant or wat ever its called split from the covie ship and went to earth you say it took the dusk to reach delta halo in 13 days well the covies had already landed and look for the control room long b4 the UNSC turned up so that proves they are faster.

So just deal with it seriously ur fighting facts with some random math that does'nt go with the relavance of my post so how about read mine as i do read yourd

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Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

wolver frog
It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

The Covenant eat planets.

Paulus Magintie:
U found a debate that was'nt even mention somehow. at no point did i say anything about the UNSC dusk only the gettysburg and yes i was wrong to say the gettysburg is the fast slipspace ship so i changed it to the fast ship in the UNSC which i may add your not agreeing with even though i posted a link that tells u the same thing. why your trying to prove it wrong is beyond me.

i really dont give a a dam about the math and u keep saying one ship goes 1 speed so another could'nt, In halo CE it 3rd sentance at the beginning of the game cortana states the covenant ships have always been faster so adding the slipspace drive from a covie to an UNSC ship would make the UNSC ship much faster.

and your blabbering the ship has been to delta halo to oynx to earth or wat eva an then saying the dusk has gone other places or what eva and comparing them :S when the facts ur adding are totally wrong,

The gettysburg was already as reach the covie ship captured by john was taken to reach join with the gettysburg went to destroy the unyeilding hyaphant or wat ever its called split from the covie ship and went to earth you say it took the dusk to reach delta halo in 13 days well the covies had already landed and look for the control room long b4 the UNSC turned up so that proves they are faster.

So just deal with it seriously ur fighting facts with some random math that does'nt go with the relavance of my post so how about read mine as i do read yourd

And later she says speed and time are "relative" in Slipspace. They dont actually mean a whole lot.

Take for instance two cars. Both are traveling at 65mph, both the same make and model. There are no adverse conditions for them to go through. They both start at the same point.

One takes an arced route to get to the next point. The other takes a straight line to the same point. Which one makes it there first? That is how I view the mechanics of UNSC Slipspace technology vs. Covenant Slipspace technology based off of what Cortana gives us in First Strike.

VaultingFrog 2:

Paulus Magintie:
U found a debate that was'nt even mention somehow. at no point did i say anything about the UNSC dusk only the gettysburg and yes i was wrong to say the gettysburg is the fast slipspace ship so i changed it to the fast ship in the UNSC which i may add your not agreeing with even though i posted a link that tells u the same thing. why your trying to prove it wrong is beyond me.

i really dont give a a dam about the math and u keep saying one ship goes 1 speed so another could'nt, In halo CE it 3rd sentance at the beginning of the game cortana states the covenant ships have always been faster so adding the slipspace drive from a covie to an UNSC ship would make the UNSC ship much faster.

and your blabbering the ship has been to delta halo to oynx to earth or wat eva an then saying the dusk has gone other places or what eva and comparing them :S when the facts ur adding are totally wrong,

The gettysburg was already as reach the covie ship captured by john was taken to reach join with the gettysburg went to destroy the unyeilding hyaphant or wat ever its called split from the covie ship and went to earth you say it took the dusk to reach delta halo in 13 days well the covies had already landed and look for the control room long b4 the UNSC turned up so that proves they are faster.

So just deal with it seriously ur fighting facts with some random math that does'nt go with the relavance of my post so how about read mine as i do read yourd

And later she says speed and time are "relative" in Slipspace. They dont actually mean a whole lot.

Take for instance two cars. Both are traveling at 65mph, both the same make and model. There are no adverse conditions for them to go through. They both start at the same point.

One takes an arced route to get to the next point. The other takes a straight line to the same point. Which one makes it there first? That is how I view the mechanics of UNSC Slipspace technology vs. Covenant Slipspace technology based off of what Cortana gives us in First Strike.

then i view ur view as you opinion but wrong so of ur view works for u then fine but u need to understand the covenant on more than 1 occasion have been said they are technologically superior so there speeds and strengths are going to be different cortana even made the captured ship go faster in slip space by messing some coils in the drive or summink to make faster because she knew how they worked while the covies didn't and used the drive to around 50% so if they where faster in the 1st place cortana made the ship much faster than average so my point still stands,

so that allowed the Gettysburg to go much faster in its all around performance as well as slip space if your going to do ur maths i suggest u take into considering all the details, including the ships, protocol, AI on board or not, types of ships like the human/covie hybrid commander and technology on the ship instead of saying all the ship are the same in every respect and that the commanders would slip space the same amount of times due to protocol

Oh and i never heard cortana say the quote u gave care to give me a source as i have provided you with my sources

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Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

wolver frog
It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

The Covenant eat planets.