Vigil, I know you asked to stop posting, and I would respect this now; but then I kept reading. To honor your request, this will be my last "hostile" post in this thread.
Remus, I've worked too hard for too long on these points- and I do find them valid enough to post- to let them go.
I apologize if this adds fuel to the fire, but I suggest that you all follow suite with me in giving FJ a "dwarven banishment". Pretty much, after this post, I will act as though he doesn't even exist. The exception to this, FJ, is PM. If you wish to continue to rant on to me, then by all means have at it; but away from the public eye.
Now, on to business.
I FJ I:You are acting like the libary keeper. Shuffling along the coridoors, casting your critical eye upon anything that should happen to pass the sacred shelvs.
You "seniors" arnt the only members who read or post in this section. Like it or not, us unclean, vile and discusting new members pass your hallowed keep from time to time in search of an enjoyable piece of writing. I, like many, have next to no idea about the halo story other than Master Chief kills Alien dudes. Your stories that follow the cannon perfectly are wasted on 99.9% of Halo players because we arnt impressed with your Halo knowledge. We are after an entertaining piece of writting, that includes elements from Halo. Not a historicly accurate essay!
This story deliverd what people want. Im not saying its the only one, but this is on example, and you "seniors" ridicule his knowledge of the cannon and discarded his efforts, like you seniors have been discarded fom this site. The "seniors" on the site are the only people who actually care about the cannon, and you make up but a small minority of the site. Someone from the dreded MP section attempts to post and he gets shot down, and harshly at that. You dont have some over ruling authority on the site, more specificly this section. No one made you guys rulers or judges of fan fiction, but your acting like you are.
If you ask me, this here is prime example why most of you got banned, and are disliked by the rest of the Halo community. We are all havng fun, making videos, discussing strategy and hostng live stream events while you guys wallow in the FF cave, discussing the historical accuracy of finite details not even the Halo devs care about. As soon as an outsider steps in you swiftly make it known you dont like them. Then hide behind your grammer and sentence structure and call us unclutured fools who run and gun.
Youve totaly missed the point of Fan Fiction. He is a Fan who wrote some Fiction. Theres nothing more to FF.
You have a dislike towards anyone with a low post count, or anyone who cant recall the date a pelican was made. Then you act like none of that matters, when quite clearly it does. Maybe if you where a bi more accepting and patient more of you would still be around, and more of the community would like you.
P.S. Perhaps you should tell Felix that ones post count has nothing to do with a community. Because he seems to think anyone outside the FF section is part of mine.
Let me tell you something, kid- I don't care how old you are, you're behaving like a kid;
This story bugs me because I am an English major, with a concentration in Creative Writing. I have not spent three years of my life learning how to write stories to stand idly by while sh*t like this passes as entertainment.
Now, what did I say earlier? I don't give a d*mn how many posts a person has- you yourself have more than I do. Does this change my opinion of you? No. You joined after me, I still respected you up until now. I respected you mainly because I wasn't around much- due to a busy schedule- but mostly because you never bugged me this badly. I don't care if a member is new, old, or a new old person (one who doesn't post much from 07)- I give respect where respect is earned. While he may not be my favorite person in the world, I respect the hell out of Felix, because he showed me that he can be respected. You're just a dumb kid with keyboard courage.
As far as the canon goes, it's one thing to say "Oh! You said the Master Chief was 36- he was 27!" It's another thing to say "The Arbiter's still alive after 400 years- despite being killed by Forge and then blown the f*ck up!" That takes canon, breaks it, then p*sses on the shards. It's not a matter of his posts- what was it, 900 or so? That means that he's been around for a while, whoopty-f*cking-do. He's still unable to write an engaging Fan Fiction.
If you would notice- you know, engage yourself in the community outside your group of buddies- you would realize that we "seniors" do much more than "wallow in the FF cave". I help out when I can in the Haloverse section, and comment here and there in General Discusion. Then, you pick on our grammar and sentence structure. Jesus-tap-dancing-Christ, I didn't realize how stupid kids are getting today. So were well versed and educated- that's bad now? Has the internet so infected our society that "Leet Speek" is now cool? WAKE UP! If you want to go anywhere, anywhere with your life, you'd better have good grammar.
Now. What if the point of a Fan Fiction isn't for the sake of being a Fan? Let's say I wanted to write a Naruto FF for a contest, and I absolutely abhor Naruto (truth). I would do the research, get the character names and mannerisms right for the sake of the fans of Naruto. What if in writing a Fan Fiction based in the Halo Universe, you're writing to entertain the fans of Halo? Think on that, if you will; though you'll most likely dismiss it.
Again with the f*cking posts! I swear to Athena you're more concerned about it that we! I don't care how many posts a person has- your posts are well over mine, and I find myself loathing your every syllable. However users like Eternal Vigil and YourBoss1337 have post counts far under mine, and I respect them very much- Vigil is even a superior in my eyes. Now, as far as the production date of a Pelican goes; at the top of his "story", he said a lot of research went into it. It's odd that with so much research, such simple facts to find were overlooked. As far as your prejudice of "seniors" goes, I've never been banned, and I would feel that most of the community likes me- maybe not adores, but likes.
I FJ I:I obviously struck a nerve there, further
proving that you are the steryotype your despiratey tryin to proce
otherwise. Also, OB was the harsh language really needed? Thats exactly
why old memebers get banned. Some new member comes along, dones nothing
wrong and you all make it quite clear he is un wanted. Someone stands
up for them, and OB takes it to far, and insults me harshly. If you ask
me, he is making it M - T.
You act like your a nice, welcoming
group, but in actual fact, theres no room in your section for anyone.
You only allow fellow cannon fanatics, or novel writers into a fan
fiction section. You remind me of little boys, with a tree house, not
allowing the girls into it. Grow up and realise that HW is played by
more than you 12 or so members, and that we are free to post a
fictional piece of writing without worrying your critical and harsh
judgement.
Fan Fiction is exaclty what it says on the tin.
Fiction made by a fan, there is nothing more to it. Stop actng like
this is a novel contest, when it quite clearly isnt.
This is
not your realm, this is a section on a site for us fans to make a
fintional story. Which brings me to my next point. If most of you dont
like the game, then why are you in a section that obviously has "fan"
written on it? Its because your hear to compare yor cannon knowledge,
not enojoy the fiction the community can offer. When something, not up
to your extremely high standerds comes along, you just dismiss it
witout remorse. Your saying its constructive critisism, but its not. If
a teacher, or tutor came to me and told me how bad i am at everything,
and told me that i dont belong here and i should leave now, then that
would be considerd abuse, not constructive critisism.
All you saw was his post count, and judged him straight away.
More drivel. Splendid. You struck a nerve because you're an overbearing child hyped up on his self-image. In OB's defense, I think the language was needed. It got your attention, and if that's what gets through your thick ego, then so be it. Now, I wouldn't call this member "new". He's been around enough to acquire a reasonable post count, so he should have gotten the ropes by now. However, I don't care if he's brand new or old as dirt- sex-themed FF's are a taboo subject, and the more serious FF members don't find it amusing. Your immaturity in defending this is suffocating.
Now, if a new member were to write a stunning, well written FF, I would praise him without end. Even if they were to write a mediocre story with a promising plot, I would try to help guide them in the right direction. A member who wrights a 15-line *** FF isn't deserving of the slightest amount of praise. We remind you of little boys? I beg to differ. You're the one hung up on improper grammar and questionable themes, while we're trying to uphold decency and higher education. Quit being such a child.
Now, this is our realm. As much as it is anyone else's, this realm belongs to we of the community. By being a member of this site, the threads we write are our section of the forums; we own a fraction of it. As shareholders of the Halo Wars Forums, we see it- as should all members- our duty to uphold integrity in the forums. This means not promoting pornographic content. I can honestly say that I've read some pretty bad, but promising FF's. I helped to aid those individuals, and I hope that they took the advice I had to give.
You act like we think we know what we're talking about because we have more posts. Let me ask you this; are you working on a Bachelors Degree focusing in Creative Writing? I know how to write stories; it's what I do. Have any of your stories been shown to publishers? Apparently, I'm good at writing my stories. I hate to sound full of myself, but you don't argue with a Director when shooting a movie.
Violaterr:Grammar
does not matter.
If grammar doesn't matter, then how are we to understand you coherently? I understand your sarcasm, but grammar is very important; I urge this point strongly.
I FJ I:Walrus:
My content is spam? Perhaps you should look up what spam means.
I
have spnt hours of my own time, making videos and a website that hosts
a lot of content, including live streams for fans. Thats a dictoinary
definition of spam right there.
Also, ive played many, many, many
other RTS games before. I dont just contribute to this 1 site. Infact,
i was promoted to strat specialist on teh CnC sites, that included
wirting weekly guides and helping people etc. Im a well known RTS
player known amungst people who can actually play.
If this game
requires no skill and can be done by 1 year olds. Maybe your up for a
challange? Take meand my team on, and i will live stream to match so we
cn al enjoy your failures.
Maybe you should research the word spam, and find out about other games i play before you comment on them
Now you're just turning this into a "Richard" (think of the nickname) waving contest. Stop while you're ahead, and just go sit in a corner. I'm done arguing with you.
Lady Hope:Although this post has caused a huge flame war on this site, I think
it has raised some very valid issues for me, and perhaps others on the
site, who would like to look past the disrespectful flamers (of whom
some are my good friends).
The most important question that comes to mind is: "Should FF follow the original cannon?"
As
a person who loves to write, I constantly read the FF posted on this
site. I think its very enjoyable regardless of how close it follows the
original story line. A quick search of the definition shows that
nowhere is FF strictly supposed to follow the original work.
Fanfiction as defined by Dictionary.com:
a
fictional account written by a fan of a show, movie, book, or video
game to explore themes and ideas that will not or cannot be explored
via the originating medium; also written fan fiction, also called fanfic
Fanfiction as defined by the Merriem-Webster Dictionary:
stories involving popular fictional characters that are written by fans and often posted on the Internet
Fanfiction as defined by the Longman dictionary of contemporary english:
stories that use characters or events from famous books, television programmes, or films, but which are written by a fan of the original book etc (=someone who likes it very much), not the book's real writer.
Obviously, and unfortunately, others
on this site do not agree and cannot get past little details to see
some of the stories for what they are. Well written, enjoyable fiction.
It makes it hard for others to post here, myself included. I do not
want to post my fiction to a forum where everyone flames because of an
inaccuracy in the timeline of a fictional story.
( I have contributed to many writers' forums and know the difference
between constructive criticism and flaming). I would like to post my
stories in a welcoming community, as this should be seeing as it is the
only community that can understand and appreciate Halo Wars FF. Again,
I am sure there are others who feel the same.
This being said, it's a shame that the library, a great section of the Halo Wars site,
can cause this much anger. This should be a forum where people are
happy to post for each others enjoyment and their own betterment.
Writing is something that I am very passionate about. To the point where I felt my first post should be about this topic. I
hope that my post can be seen as my personal opinion and not related to
any of those posts or opinions that come from the rest of the others in
this thread.
I immensely respect what you've written, and this is proof that we're accepting of new members, FJ. I also respect your reserve of "floating" before actively engaging in the community, Lady. I, as well as other members already, look forward to what you can write with great expectation.
Now, having said all of this, I retire to finish ODST: Hellbound. I encourage you all to read it, and comment if you see fit. I always look forward to constructive criticism.
Current Fan Fictions in the Library:ODST: Hellbound
The Interrogation of Ellen Anders
Halo: Archangel