Hunters vs Gauss

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  •  07-11-2009, 6:58 PM 651717

    Hunters vs Gauss

    Okay, warthogs are vehicles right? Hunters are anti-vehicle. Warthogs cost 150, Hunters cost 250.

     

    Hunters still get owned by hogs. Hunters are the direct counter for hogs AND cost more yet I still have to match the hog army in numbers just to stand a chance. The ram/gauss does way too much damage to hunters. It seems like hunters have no resistance to hogs at all. Hunters do a lot of damage but don't seem to be resistant armorwise to the unit they counter. Whatever the damage total gauss does, i'm sure hunters recieve 100% of it when it should be around 50% or so.

     

    Assuming the hogs never get hit, their weapons literely counter hunters. No other unit in the game does that much damage to hunters. Even oxide flamethrowers take a while to kill hunters, yet Spirit bond hunters die in a few hits from gauss.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:10 PM 651726 in reply to 651717

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

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  •  07-11-2009, 7:11 PM 651728 in reply to 651717

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    Agreed,Covenant need a stronger 'anti-vehicle' than hunters. Well micro'd  gauss can beat hunters (cyro helps alot), same goes with tanks w/ canister. Not to mention how immobile hunter's are (the direct counter) for example, you could be on release and rock up at anders base with 20 pop of hunters. Mean while the hogs have drove around your hunters and will easily kill your base before the hunters scratch the surface.

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  •  07-11-2009, 7:21 PM 651734 in reply to 651728

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

     

    It's hard enough just getting spirit bond before a gauss army arrives. And covy doesn't get to use the free reactor exploit. 

     

    If you ask me, assault beam is worse at killing hogs than spirit bond anyways.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:22 PM 651735 in reply to 651726

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

    surprisingly - not really. Spirit bond is better; all damage is concentrated in that one blob even though may miss first hog if they are all in a big cluster it will most likely hit one at the back. As for assault beam hunters, their beam often drags along and can't catch up with hogs. And when the beam finally does hit the hog only a smaller portion of damage is done this is because the assault beam's damage is transferred  in a big strand not a single blob so it only does a small portion of possible damage. But the assault beam upgrade does give that extra 15% damage/ health so i guess you could call it even, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it 'owns' hogs. Not to mention how much harder it is to reach tech 3 with covie than unsc without a reactor on the map.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:27 PM 651736 in reply to 651734

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    Cookie Krisp:

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

     

    It's hard enough just getting spirit bond before a gauss army arrives. And covy doesn't get to use the free reactor exploit. 

     

    If you ask me, assault beam is worse at killing hogs than spirit bond anyways.

    Assult beam owns. The hogs hardly get a chance to get close enough to ram or shoot without getting killed by beam. But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:28 PM 651737 in reply to 651735

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    II Ethics II:

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

    surprisingly - not really. Spirit bond is better; all damage is concentrated in that one blob even though may miss first hog if they are all in a big cluster it will most likely hit one at the back. As for assault beam hunters, their beam often drags along and can't catch up with hogs. And when the beam finally does hit the hog only a smaller portion of damage is done this is because the assault beam's damage is transferred  in a big strand not a single blob so it only does a small portion of possible damage. But the assault beam upgrade does give that extra 15% damage/ health so i guess you could call it even, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it 'owns' hogs. Not to mention how much harder it is to reach tech 3 with covie than unsc without a reactor on the map.

    Auulst beam really owns hogs.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:30 PM 651740 in reply to 651736

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    I FJ I:
    Cookie Krisp:

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

     

    It's hard enough just getting spirit bond before a gauss army arrives. And covy doesn't get to use the free reactor exploit. 

     

    If you ask me, assault beam is worse at killing hogs than spirit bond anyways.

    Assult beam owns. The hogs hardly get a chance to get close enough to ram or shoot without getting killed by beam. But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts.

    except they'll get to guass by the time you get spirit bond...


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:31 PM 651741 in reply to 651737

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    I will run some tests, quite sure spirit bond is better. Can we get some other input from players? (good players)

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  •  07-11-2009, 7:39 PM 651745 in reply to 651740

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    Felix:
    I FJ I:
    Cookie Krisp:

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

     

    It's hard enough just getting spirit bond before a gauss army arrives. And covy doesn't get to use the free reactor exploit. 

     

    If you ask me, assault beam is worse at killing hogs than spirit bond anyways.

    Assult beam owns. The hogs hardly get a chance to get close enough to ram or shoot without getting killed by beam. But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts.

    except they'll get to guass by the time you get spirit bond...

    I agree, infact i already said it.

    "But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts."

     


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:39 PM 651746 in reply to 651741

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    II Ethics II:I will run some tests, quite sure spirit bond is better. Can we get some other input from players? (good players)

    Well I think that Hun... nevermind, you said good players =(


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:40 PM 651747 in reply to 651745

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    I FJ I:
    Felix:
    I FJ I:
    Cookie Krisp:

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

     

    It's hard enough just getting spirit bond before a gauss army arrives. And covy doesn't get to use the free reactor exploit. 

     

    If you ask me, assault beam is worse at killing hogs than spirit bond anyways.

    Assult beam owns. The hogs hardly get a chance to get close enough to ram or shoot without getting killed by beam. But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts.

    except they'll get to guass by the time you get spirit bond...

    I agree, infact i already said it.

    "But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts."

     

    which is why we're trying to figure out a new unit that can counter gauss.  Unfortanitly, no such unit can exist for the covenant.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:42 PM 651748 in reply to 651741

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    II Ethics II:I will run some tests, quite sure spirit bond is better. Can we get some other input from players? (good players)

    Your thinking of a straight 1v1 fight between a hunter and a guass hog. In numbers, like a realistic fight, the Guass will stand no chance at all. They cant get close enough to attack without being in range, let alone ram. Even if they did ram, the hogs lose a lot of HP ramming a t3 hunter.

    Also, its safe to run some hogs past a group of spirt bond hunters. you wouldnt dare run a group og hogs past assult beam.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:44 PM 651749 in reply to 651747

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    Felix:
    I FJ I:
    Felix:
    I FJ I:
    Cookie Krisp:

    I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

     

    It's hard enough just getting spirit bond before a gauss army arrives. And covy doesn't get to use the free reactor exploit. 

     

    If you ask me, assault beam is worse at killing hogs than spirit bond anyways.

    Assult beam owns. The hogs hardly get a chance to get close enough to ram or shoot without getting killed by beam. But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts.

    except they'll get to guass by the time you get spirit bond...

    I agree, infact i already said it.

    "But one of the reasons guass is OP is because its easy to get to tech 3 on hogs where as its not on all other unts."

     

    which is why we're trying to figure out a new unit that can counter gauss.  Unfortanitly, no such unit can exist for the covenant.

    Hunters counter guass pretty well. Its the fact guass doesnt even need to fight units to win the game.


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  •  07-11-2009, 7:47 PM 651751 in reply to 651748

    Re: Hunters vs Gauss

    I FJ I:

    II Ethics II:I will run some tests, quite sure spirit bond is better. Can we get some other input from players? (good players)

    Your thinking of a straight 1v1 fight between a hunter and a guass hog. In numbers, like a realistic fight, the Guass will stand no chance at all. They cant get close enough to attack without being in range, let alone ram. Even if they did ram, the hogs lose a lot of HP ramming a t3 hunter.

    Also, its safe to run some hogs past a group of spirt bond hunters. you wouldnt dare run a group og hogs past assult beam.

    I'm not doubting that hunters wouldn't win. Just leaning towards spirit bond being more effective or even the same as a-beam. Which does it really make it worth it spending that extra 2700 getting beam. (and yes, i was thinking of a fight in numbers.)


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