I don't know what will change after the patch ...

3 secs more build time, is that enough ?

 

You have 2 options vs. gauss hogs:

 

1. Fight the gauss hogs: Very very difficult, you have to find them and trap them, so they can't "run" away ... very difficult

 

2. Camp at your base: Then Anders will gain map control.

 

The problem is their building dmg, you can never attack anders (with wraiths or scorps), because she will send her hogs to your base and kill it faster than you.

It's really easy for her to avoid your units, the only unit that can keep up with hogs are banshees, and they get softcountered.

Arbiter can keep up with them, too, but a d-bomb will stop him (in front of his base).

 

I don't know if the TU3 will change gauss hogs, I can't imagine how to beat them, because you can't leave your base ....

 

Imo they have to nerf the building dmg, a scout can't be the best building killer in the game ... (except för locusts and cyclops)

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You can split up your forces?

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The answer to that is yes and no

There is not a soul on this forum good player or bad player that can answer that. We just simply do not know.

You can speculate but we have not seen the effects of the nerfs yet. This TU was mainly about anders gauss hogs so I would imagine that new BOs will be on the way with Forge and cutter

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Baconsen:You can split up your forces?

 

No way, anders can get gauss so freakin fast, you can't keep up with it. With 2 bases they're so spammable (even after TU3), you can't get enough units in this time, to split them up ...

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Green Phantom X:

No way, anders can get gauss so freakin fast, you can't keep up with it. With 2 bases they're so spammable (even after TU3), you can't get enough units in this time, to split them up ...

Okay then...

Good luck i suppose...

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i haven't actually thought too much about the build times.. i suppose i can now:

3 X 30 = 1:30mins extra if you are pumping from 1 base to get full pop

3 X 15 = 45 secs extra to get full pop whilst pumping from 2 bases

Its not very much considering the damage they do to bases in numbers.

But the main nerf to them is the damage reduction to tanks

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Green Phantom X:

Baconsen:You can split up your forces?

 

No way, anders can get gauss so freakin fast, you can't keep up with it. With 2 bases they're so spammable (even after TU3), you can't get enough units in this time, to split them up ...

Well the thing about that is they will do less damage against buildings and heavy armors.

That will give you a chance to get couple tanks out early and stop them from being able to spam. With the nerf in time to upgrading you should not have a issue stopping them from getting gauss. Now in 2v2 and 3s it will be a lot different. There is a lot of room for BOs and stuff to speed up reaching gauss.

Its not so much of how many units you got to stop them. Its weather or not they are the right units

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Green Phantom X:

Baconsen:You can split up your forces?

 

No way, anders can get gauss so freakin fast, you can't keep up with it. With 2 bases they're so spammable (even after TU3), you can't get enough units in this time, to split them up ...

Well the thing about that is they will do less damage against buildings and heavy armors.

That will give you a chance to get couple tanks out early and stop them from being able to spam. With the nerf in time to upgrading you should not have a issue stopping them from getting gauss. Now in 2v2 and 3s it will be a lot different. There is a lot of room for BOs and stuff to speed up reaching gauss.

Its not so much of how many units you got to stop them. Its weather or not they are the right units

Building damage is not being reduced

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the sad part is that time increase was post to Nerf the spam but it doesn't even touch it.  what causes the spam is low rps multiplied by bases. 

getting reserves increase rps.  Rps is just ration of cost/ build time.  Build time = to unit strength.   higher build times is usually given to strong units while low build time is given to weak units.     Rps cost per build time or cost per strength of unit.  What ever way you want to look at it.    Now if the cost is low then you can make more vs if it was high.  now the  bases can  only allow 1 1/2 unit to be build at a time because of structure of economy is set up in this game. The penalty of only to be units that can be made out main building is not really a penalty but this is not a penalty since all units have to follow this rule ( exect cutter can have 7 supply pads with 2 elphants that is only exception.)

 supply pad rate (spr) / rate per seconds (rps)  = max unit rate (mur)  The only way to stop the spam is to effect the rps and the only way you effect is increasing its cost or decreasing its build time.  but since its strength based on the build time then you need to nerf the % health and damage to equal its new build time.

Green Phantom X:

I don't know what will change after the patch ...

3 secs more build time, is that enough ?

 

You have 2 options vs. gauss hogs:

 

1. Fight the gauss hogs: Very very difficult, you have to find them and trap them, so they can't "run" away ... very difficult

 

2. Camp at your base: Then Anders will gain map control.

 

The problem is their building dmg, you can never attack anders (with wraiths or scorps), because she will send her hogs to your base and kill it faster than you.

It's really easy for her to avoid your units, the only unit that can keep up with hogs are banshees, and they get softcountered.

Arbiter can keep up with them, too, but a d-bomb will stop him (in front of his base).

 

I don't know if the TU3 will change gauss hogs, I can't imagine how to beat them, because you can't leave your base ....

 

Imo they have to nerf the building dmg, a scout can't be the best building killer in the game ... (except för locusts and cyclops)

I dont see what the problem is, Hogs take more time to make and they don less damage on Amrored vehicle, so having two tanks and a cobra and your turrets can actually take down Gauss Hogs. The rest of your units can take down the base and use your leader power to help defend your base as well.

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After the patch comes out Tanks with spartens and some marines will be more then a match vs gauss hogs

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dude I was just playing Isheeed (with others on the forum) in 3v3 and he had like I think 25-30 guass warthogs and I had 4 wraiths, 1 un upgraded hunter and a brute squad, this pure exucse for a army killed 17 of them.

so 4wraiths>17 guass

not bad =)

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studmuffin:

dude I was just playing Isheeed (with others on the forum) in 3v3 and he had like I think 25-30 guass warthogs and I had 4 wraiths, 1 un upgraded hunter and a brute squad, this pure exucse for a army killed 17 of them.

so 4wraiths>17 guass

not bad =)

it was 12 hogs xD and you had hunters a vortex and 4 wraiths with a poor micro :P  

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