Jackals or Flamethrowers?

Last post 07-04-2009, 11:57 AM by I FJ I. 29 replies.
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  •  07-02-2009, 11:27 PM 642863 in reply to 642791

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Later in the game canister tanks should be the obv option because they can defeat more than just infantry and have much better mobility. However early games against brute por and arby rushes with infantry flamers pwn. The only reason i would produce any flamers late game is if my vehicles were getting pwned by assault beam hunters. They to me beat them better than hornets because they kill them much faster and can stun them to hopefully save some of your vehicles

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  •  07-03-2009, 1:47 AM 642940 in reply to 642863

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    The way i see it, flamers are more effective than jackals in small numbers.  Flashbang shines in these cases and and the flamers can better close ground under these circumstances.  BUT, the more you get, the more jackals shine, they get better in numbers--flamers, not so much.

     

    Frankly, I like jackals better, but they each have reasons to use em and reasons not to.


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  •  07-04-2009, 3:23 AM 644040 in reply to 642940

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    ExpiredRascals:

    The way i see it, flamers are more effective than jackals in small numbers.  Flashbang shines in these cases and and the flamers can better close ground under these circumstances.  BUT, the more you get, the more jackals shine, they get better in numbers--flamers, not so much.

     

    Frankly, I like jackals better, but they each have reasons to use em and reasons not to.

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  •  07-04-2009, 8:34 AM 644112 in reply to 642742

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    I honestly beleive that Jackals are much better tbh

     

    they have superior range, and can shoot whilst moving, thus as long as you dont just keep them still, they should always beat flamers

     

    That and the fact that i can counter flamers using just a flying PoR, if i tried to kill jackals with a flying PoR then i would be screwed unless i acted very quickly


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  •  07-04-2009, 8:54 AM 644113 in reply to 644112

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Count Peter:

    I honestly beleive that Jackals are much better tbh

     

    they have superior range, and can shoot whilst moving, thus as long as you dont just keep them still, they should always beat flamers

     

    That and the fact that i can counter flamers using just a flying PoR, if i tried to kill jackals with a flying PoR then i would be screwed unless i acted very quickly

    yeah but jackal  suck against the arbiter while rage just makes him run right into the flammers



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  •  07-04-2009, 9:30 AM 644127 in reply to 642765

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Viper Skills:

    Beam Jackals > Flamers.

    No its all about the battlefeild, for flamers is surround and crush, often using cramped areas like a ramp, but jackles are all about wid open battlefeils, but if you pelican in 6 of them into the formation it can do alot of damage if followed by a leader power (or before for anders) so I do think that is all about there use



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  •  07-04-2009, 9:44 AM 644131 in reply to 642774

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Flamers are only better than Jackals if the covie player lets them get close. Against any decent player, they wouldn't.


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  •  07-04-2009, 10:26 AM 644139 in reply to 644131

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    ExaltedVanguard:

    Flamers are only better than Jackals if the covie player lets them get close. Against any decent player, they wouldn't.

    Flamers are like 3times faster than the jackals and have flashbang, its not that hard to get them in close



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  •  07-04-2009, 10:56 AM 644142 in reply to 642791

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    I hope this dosnt turn into a...Flame war! (see what I did there)

    anyway I vote for flamthowers.


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  •  07-04-2009, 11:05 AM 644152 in reply to 644142

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Jackals are better in certain situations as are flamers.

    If jackals see the flamers before the flamers are in range to attack then it is going to obviously kill the flamer because of the range advantage.

    But put them beside each other flamers will always win.

    So one is not better then the other, each have their respective strengths and weaknesses
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  •  07-04-2009, 11:11 AM 644154 in reply to 642863

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    It seems to me that they are quite balanced against each other. The way to win a Flamer vs. Jackal fight is to get far away or close up, depending on what faction you are. However, who uses 20 anti infantry to kill the same number of equally teched anti infantry? Unless you don't have the time to produce them, tanks, main air, and scouts counter them much better.

     

    The way I see it, Covie counter units are, as a whole, as good as UNSC ones. An anti-infantry fight is dependent on micro, but Hunters beat Cobras and Wolverines beat Vampires. Making the counter units different from faction to faction but still balanced makes for a more interesting game, does it not?

  •  07-04-2009, 11:14 AM 644155 in reply to 642742

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    jackals are better, they can attack from a distance.  A wave of F.F. would be wiped out in seconds.
  •  07-04-2009, 11:25 AM 644163 in reply to 644155

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Beam rifle Jackals all the way.

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  •  07-04-2009, 11:43 AM 644183 in reply to 644155

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Agent Butters:jackals are better, they can attack from a distance.  A wave of F.F. would be wiped out in seconds.

    Have you ever seen flamers actually fight jackals because thats not what happens at all if there even numbers you will never loose all your flamers without taking out most of the jackals



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  •  07-04-2009, 11:57 AM 644194 in reply to 642863

    Re: Jackals or Flamethrowers?

    Depends on how well teh jackals and flamers are set up and microd. Who ever uses the units the best wins. Stay tuned for a short video with some jackal vs flamers footage
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