this TU#3 is just getting uglier and uglier to me... plus posting in the thread never gets me any responses so here goes:

this time I just wanted to say I scoff at change #12 because it is just one more way the playing field is unnecessarily flattened. Unnecessary because anyone who ever thought about the mechanics behind (un)locking bases should realize that garrisoned troops will fight sooner and more effectively if released without a rally point to run to first.

Another part of my argument comes from my experience with a different (ex-favorite) console game of mine:

Look at Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Devs took out all sorts of neat/cheap little tricks advanced players could use to stand out from the average gamer from SSB Melee in SSB Brawl. This only led to the FAIL of the SSB series, to all my gaming friends at least. 

One reason is because everyone played the same way no matter the character. Great, 10+ characters to choose from? Too bad they're all the same -.-

I'm afraid Halo Wars is heading down this road.

Chengstah:

Another part of my argument comes from my experience with a different (ex-favorite) console game of mine:

Look at Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Devs took out all sorts of neat/cheap little tricks advanced players could use to stand out from the average gamer from SSB Melee in SSB Brawl. This only led to the FAIL of the SSB series, to all my gaming friends at least. 

One reason is because everyone played the same way no matter the character. Great, 10+ characters to choose from? Too bad they're all the same -.-.

They didn't take anything out.  They only modified hitstun and made multiple air dodges.  Wavedashing wasn't supposed to be in melee anyway, it was a glitch.  But now Brawl is modded and called Brawl +.  They added all kinds of stuff for all the characters, even new skins. The community fixed the game for themselves, which we at Halo Wars can't, because ROBOT wants to ruin the game; plus we can't mod.

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Brawl/melee is not really relevant. Change #12 is nessicary because of the speed that UNSC units unlock currently vs covies. 20 banshees unlock too fast for them to get to the teleporter, 15 hornets take an age to get out.

Other than that how can you complain about the stupid OP scout unit getting toned down (even a little). It will still be possible to gauss spam but high end players will be able to beat it more effectivly. 

First i want to say i love you.. and second i completely AGREE WITH YOU 100% Like other games nerfing is bad i think.. the original is best.. if its not ready dont SELL IT! I like buying products that i know are finished and won't change after i have invested so much time into just to find out its OP because some lazy bum doesn't want to flex that peanut of a brain. Halowars the easiest quickest funnest RTS on the console. Look @ GoW2.. All people wanted fixed in that game in the first Title update was... Firing from the hip ->> improved Stun on smoke grenades dont knok you down. And the connection. Now look its GARBO! atleast i think so. I takes less skill and more host thats for sure. And other games 2 like halo2 dual wields use to PWN!! <3 SMG MAGNUM!! But nooooooo!!!!! NERF NERF NERF! Im surprised they didnt try to fix the bxr and double shot. But anyways H2 is the best FPS online multiplayer of aLL time. so they didnt do to bad. With the nerfing. i mean Jeez just work on Halowars2 leave part 1 alone. I want new freakin maps already im tired of nerfs

your ranting at change #12?

 

 

How is that a bad thing? The slow base unlock just encourages spawn camping.
 

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Chengstah:

this TU#3 is just getting uglier and uglier to me... plus posting in the thread never gets me any responses so here goes:

this time I just wanted to say I scoff at change #12 because it is just one more way the playing field is unnecessarily flattened. Unnecessary because anyone who ever thought about the mechanics behind (un)locking bases should realize that garrisoned troops will fight sooner and more effectively if released without a rally point to run to first.

Another part of my argument comes from my experience with a different (ex-favorite) console game of mine:

Look at Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Devs took out all sorts of neat/cheap little tricks advanced players could use to stand out from the average gamer from SSB Melee in SSB Brawl. This only led to the FAIL of the SSB series, to all my gaming friends at least. 

One reason is because everyone played the same way no matter the character. Great, 10+ characters to choose from? Too bad they're all the same -.-

I'm afraid Halo Wars is heading down this road.

 

Are you *** serious?

You "scoff" at change #12...This is obviously a necessary change because otherwise there is no point in locking down your base during a rush. And that is the point right there, so that you can train a defending force while the rush is being unleashed upon your base and then subsequently release it as a viable repelling force.

If you cannot understand that simple concept then I'm not sure of how you are even able to grasp the most basic concepts of RTS.

This change is necessary to help level the playing field between UNSC and Covenant. Whereas right now it is a balance issue.

And as for your reference to SSBB. You say, "Devs took out all sorts of neat/cheap little tricks."  I think that is pretty self explanitory right there. Any trick that is cheap should not be included continuously in game series..a wise move on the developer's part to remove them.

Are you so lowly that you must resort to cheap tricks to win games? It is the effort of the developers/governing bodies to remove cheap moves that makes any game better.

Could you imagine if in Boxing you were allowed to kick your opponent in the balls? Yes, you can, but it's a cheap shot and as thus is not allowed.

Why don't we just allow hacking. It's a nice, cheap trick that allows for easy wins.

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You got me good, munn.

RaNdoM v3:First i want to say i love you.. and second i completely AGREE WITH YOU 100% Like other games nerfing is bad i think.. the original is best.. if its not ready dont SELL IT! I like buying products that i know are finished and won't change after i have invested so much time into just to find out its OP because some lazy bum doesn't want to flex that peanut of a brain. Halowars the easiest quickest funnest RTS on the console. Look @ GoW2.. All people wanted fixed in that game in the first Title update was... Firing from the hip ->> improved Stun on smoke grenades dont knok you down. And the connection. Now look its GARBO! atleast i think so. I takes less skill and more host thats for sure. And other games 2 like halo2 dual wields use to PWN!! <3 SMG MAGNUM!! But nooooooo!!!!! NERF NERF NERF! Im surprised they didnt try to fix the bxr and double shot. But anyways H2 is the best FPS online multiplayer of aLL time. so they didnt do to bad. With the nerfing. i mean Jeez just work on Halowars2 leave part 1 alone. I want new freakin maps already im tired of nerfs

the updates for gears 2 were very necessary, and so are the ones for halo wars. do you think a hip fire in gears 2 should hit the ground in front of you? and do you really think that the concussive smoke grenades made the game more "tactical"?

if robot came out with new maps, people would say "how about you fix your game before you release more unbalanced content" or something like that. robot cant please everybody. 

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Ronin 3000:

RaNdoM v3:First i want to say i love you.. and second i completely AGREE WITH YOU 100% Like other games nerfing is bad i think.. the original is best.. if its not ready dont SELL IT! I like buying products that i know are finished and won't change after i have invested so much time into just to find out its OP because some lazy bum doesn't want to flex that peanut of a brain. Halowars the easiest quickest funnest RTS on the console. Look @ GoW2.. All people wanted fixed in that game in the first Title update was... Firing from the hip ->> improved Stun on smoke grenades dont knok you down. And the connection. Now look its GARBO! atleast i think so. I takes less skill and more host thats for sure. And other games 2 like halo2 dual wields use to PWN!! <3 SMG MAGNUM!! But nooooooo!!!!! NERF NERF NERF! Im surprised they didnt try to fix the bxr and double shot. But anyways H2 is the best FPS online multiplayer of aLL time. so they didnt do to bad. With the nerfing. i mean Jeez just work on Halowars2 leave part 1 alone. I want new freakin maps already im tired of nerfs

the updates for gears 2 were very necessary, and so are the ones for halo wars. do you think a hip fire in gears 2 should hit the ground in front of you? and do you really think that the concussive smoke grenades made the game more "tactical"?

if robot came out with new maps, people would say "how about you fix your game before you release more unbalanced content" or something like that. robot cant please everybody. 

Good, someone else with some sense.

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COMMON SENSE:
So rare it's a go'damn super power
Oooh, my Common Sense is tingling

DäRKSTäRxMëRC

You got me good, munn.

RaNdoM v3:First i want to say i love you.. and second i completely AGREE WITH YOU 100% Like other games nerfing is bad i think.. the original is best.. if its not ready dont SELL IT! I like buying products that i know are finished and won't change after i have invested so much time into just to find out its OP because some lazy bum doesn't want to flex that peanut of a brain. Halowars the easiest quickest funnest RTS on the console. Look @ GoW2.. All people wanted fixed in that game in the first Title update was... Firing from the hip ->> improved Stun on smoke grenades dont knok you down. And the connection. Now look its GARBO! atleast i think so. I takes less skill and more host thats for sure. And other games 2 like halo2 dual wields use to PWN!! <3 SMG MAGNUM!! But nooooooo!!!!! NERF NERF NERF! Im surprised they didnt try to fix the bxr and double shot. But anyways H2 is the best FPS online multiplayer of aLL time. so they didnt do to bad. With the nerfing. i mean Jeez just work on Halowars2 leave part 1 alone. I want new freakin maps already im tired of nerfs

 

the updates for gears 2 were very necessary, and so are the ones for halo wars. do you think a hip fire in gears 2 should hit the ground in front of you? and do you really think that the concussive smoke grenades made the game more "tactical"?

if robot came out with new maps, people would say "how about you fix your game before you release more unbalanced content" or something like that. robot cant please everybody. Ok wiht gears of war i said those three things were the only things that needed nerfing why would i want fire from the hip and kill my self with the boom shot when it hits the floor and smoke grenades neeeded to be nerfed like they are. And the connection needed work . I WANTED THAT! not thte rest of the *** they did. such as 2piece and the abilities t oshoot and mele out of roadie run came in handy against host or more then 1 enemy. hopefully u understand what i ment. But your an idiot if you think halowars has problems.. how come the best players know how tostop things you fine gentlemen can't? I have a 47 true skill in 2v2 at standard and i use all leaders. becuase they are all good if you use them right. Some kids just dont know how to spam any units there fore they get owned.. learn to spam in halowars then you will understand whether its counter units scouts or superunits.. Rock Paper Scissors  SIMPLE

if you had been paying attention to the forums over the past few months, you would notice that most of the top players agreed that halo wars needed some changing, namely gauss hogs. dont believe me? take a look through the TU 3 thread.

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AolxHangover:

i've never spoken to crusader but whenever i see his forum posts i think of a forge with no mussels :P

Not really sure what this guy is complaining about but you can already unlock all your units at once.  All top players know how to do this.  It is a little glitch that is supper helpful when being attack at your base.  They did this so you can get all your units out when your opponent has all of his stuff in front of your base.  So you dont get killed one unit at a time. 

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Vrong:

Not really sure what this guy is complaining about but you can already unlock all your units at once.  All top players know how to do this.  It is a little glitch that is supper helpful when being attack at your base.  They did this so you can get all your units out when your opponent has all of his stuff in front of your base.  So you dont get killed one unit at a time. 

hes saying that he doesnt want it to be easy for the fine gentlemen to do. 

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AolxHangover:

i've never spoken to crusader but whenever i see his forum posts i think of a forge with no mussels :P

Actually they don't all come out instantly for UNSC at least. Which is a serious problem when being rushed.

Steyene:Actually they don't all come out instantly for UNSC at least. Which is a serious problem when being rushed.

 

actually there is a glitch that allows all units to emerge at once. when you unlock your base without leaving the circle menu go over to the left and press x on the base rally point.

none of you guys play with high calibre players.. everyone glitches to rush out the units anyways, NOT making change #12 is just stupid on their part.

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