i was play a freindly game with some other person online the other day. He was the Arbitar and i was Captian Cutter (or the old fart). i upgraded my infantry all the way to get ODST when i spawnd 40/40 from the barracks i then attacked his base. But when i get there i saw that he had 2 scarabs. That seemend normal. but when i used my special for them to damage the scarab i did absoulty no damage. i think the odst should have one more upgrade.... chain gun. every sparten gets one if you upgrade it once. but the ODST only get medics (which only heal the group after the fighting is done) and to ability to be shot down to any area that you have lit up on the map. ODST are some of the greatest infintary units in halo wars but why do they do absoultly no damage to vehical? with 40/40 units they should at least weaken it. if it wasnt for the MAC blast we would have a slaughtered army and a blown up base. post any thing you want to agree or disagree on this topic.

Unskilledjt:i was play a freindly game with some other person online the other day. He was the Arbitar and i was Captian Cutter (or the old fart). i upgraded my infantry all the way to get ODST when i spawnd 40/40 from the barracks i then attacked his base. But when i get there i saw that he had 2 scarabs. That seemend normal. but when i used my special for them to damage the scarab i did absoulty no damage. i think the odst should have one more upgrade.... chain gun. every sparten gets one if you upgrade it once. but the ODST only get medics (which only heal the group after the fighting is done) and to ability to be shot down to any area that you have lit up on the map. ODST are some of the greatest infintary units in halo wars but why do they do absoultly no damage to vehical? with 40/40 units they should at least weaken it. if it wasnt for the MAC blast we would have a slaughtered army and a blown up base. post any thing you want to agree or disagree on this topic.

Disagree, ODST's cant hold chain guns. Spartans are Super Soldiers with super strength, stamina etc.

When you say no damage, you lie, 40 ODST can do quite a bit of damage to a Scarab, i bet it just had a buttload of engineers on them.

and you did not notice them heal it 

Unskilledjt:i was play a freindly game with some other person online the other day. He was the Arbitar and i was Captian Cutter (or the old fart). i upgraded my infantry all the way to get ODST when i spawnd 40/40 from the barracks i then attacked his base. But when i get there i saw that he had 2 scarabs. That seemend normal. but when i used my special for them to damage the scarab i did absoulty no damage. i think the odst should have one more upgrade.... chain gun. every sparten gets one if you upgrade it once. but the ODST only get medics (which only heal the group after the fighting is done) and to ability to be shot down to any area that you have lit up on the map. ODST are some of the greatest infintary units in halo wars but why do they do absoultly no damage to vehical? with 40/40 units they should at least weaken it. if it wasnt for the MAC blast we would have a slaughtered army and a blown up base. post any thing you want to agree or disagree on this topic.

well ive used them and they seem to do pretty well against them, but then again as far as super units go they fall back into the food chain

infantry less than all aircraft greater then everything other than anti aircraft vehicals

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i think  the final upgrade should be turn the rocket ability into spartan lazers, and yes marines can carry them as seen in halo 3, it would boost there effectiveness against other uber units or grizzlys

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Sgt Drifter:i think  the final upgrade should be turn the rocket ability into spartan lazers, and yes marines can carry them as seen in halo 3, it would boost there effectiveness against other uber units or grizzlys

See, right there, Halo 3 violates own canon, it was stated "i dont remeber where"

That Spartans could barley lift the weapons due to their bulkiness and weight. or something along those lines. 

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Sgt Drifter:i think  the final upgrade should be turn the rocket ability into spartan lazers, and yes marines can carry them as seen in halo 3, it would boost there effectiveness against other uber units or grizzlys

See, right there, Halo 3 violates own canon, it was stated "i dont remeber where"

That Spartans could barley lift the weapons due to their bulkiness and weight. or something along those lines. 

hmm never heard that before

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Unskilledjt:i was play a freindly game with some other person online the other day. He was the Arbitar and i was Captian Cutter (or the old fart). i upgraded my infantry all the way to get ODST when i spawnd 40/40 from the barracks i then attacked his base. But when i get there i saw that he had 2 scarabs. That seemend normal. but when i used my special for them to damage the scarab i did absoulty no damage. i think the odst should have one more upgrade.... chain gun. every sparten gets one if you upgrade it once. but the ODST only get medics (which only heal the group after the fighting is done) and to ability to be shot down to any area that you have lit up on the map. ODST are some of the greatest infintary units in halo wars but why do they do absoultly no damage to vehical? with 40/40 units they should at least weaken it. if it wasnt for the MAC blast we would have a slaughtered army and a blown up base. post any thing you want to agree or disagree on this topic.

Disagree, ODST's cant hold chain guns. Spartans are Super Soldiers with super strength, stamina etc.

When you say no damage, you lie, 40 ODST can do quite a bit of damage to a Scarab, i bet it just had a buttload of engineers on them.

and you did not notice them heal it 

He said they had 2 scarabs... At 20 units per Scarab, That's 40/40 units, leaving no room for engineers or anything else, right? Plus, Unskilledjt, you said they were all ODST, which means they should have all had rockets. Either way, it should have inflicted a noticeable amount of damage if you highlighted them all and had them all shoot the same Scarab.

I'm gonna call shenanigans and say the poster doesn't know how to play. 40 odst would certainly do noticable damage. Don't kid yourself. Plus Scarabs are 4000(?) resources each. Plus infantry are not supposed to be effective against vehicles, especially Scarabs. Shenanigans.

 Which brings me to my next point. I wish [s]ES[/s] Robot would give us the hard facts on attack, defense, range, armor, etc of the units.

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He said they had 2 scarabs... At 20 units per Scarab, That's 40/40 units, leaving no room for engineers or anything else, right? Plus, Unskilledjt, you said they were all ODST, which means they should have all had rockets. Either way, it should have inflicted a noticeable amount of damage if you highlighted them all and had them all shoot the same Scarab.

no that leaves them 10 units since covenant max is 50 not 40, also infantry die the fastest against scarab, its your fault for spamming.  I find it funny that most people fight with cutter only fight with odst I just use 20 flamers and get them ranked 3 and destroy their bases with grizzlies, and hornets  

Nah, just don't use only ODSTs.  Try an actual scarab counter.

ODSTs are strong enough as it is, they don't need more.

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He said they had 2 scarabs... At 20 units per Scarab, That's 40/40 units, leaving no room for engineers or anything else, right? Plus, Unskilledjt, you said they were all ODST, which means they should have all had rockets. Either way, it should have inflicted a noticeable amount of damage if you highlighted them all and had them all shoot the same Scarab.

no that leaves them 10 units since covenant max is 50 not 40, also infantry die the fastest against scarab, its your fault for spamming.  I find it funny that most people fight with cutter only fight with odst I just use 20 flamers and get them ranked 3 and destroy their bases with grizzlies, and hornets  

 Lol, I play as Captain Cutter most the time, have played two complete online games, and not used ODST on either of them. I've only tried to use ODST once, in a Skirmish, but I far prefer a combination of Spartans, vehicles and 2 or 3 vultures. But then, we all have our own preferences, so I won't complain if people using Captain Cutter decide to use exclusively ODSTs.

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First and foremost; 2 Scarabs would fill 40/60 population for a Covenant player.This leaves room for 20 Engineers, 10 each.

There's nothing that ever said that a Spartan Lazer was too heavy for a Spartan. It weighs 20.4kg (45lb). A Marine could lift it.

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Actually scarabs would fill the population up to 40, but the most you can get is 50. If you were able to get 60 you could make 3 scarabs. Still 10 engineers is an alright amount

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First and foremost; 2 Scarabs would fill 40/60 population for a Covenant player.This leaves room for 20 Engineers, 10 each.

There's nothing that ever said that a Spartan Lazer was too heavy for a Spartan. It weighs 20.4kg (45lb). A Marine could lift it.

Hm, are you sure, i swear to God i remember someone talking about it, and a quote from the book was "a huge weapon, only the strongest of spartans could hold it" or something along those lines... 

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venomshot629:

He said they had 2 scarabs... At 20 units per Scarab, That's 40/40 units, leaving no room for engineers or anything else, right? Plus, Unskilledjt, you said they were all ODST, which means they should have all had rockets. Either way, it should have inflicted a noticeable amount of damage if you highlighted them all and had them all shoot the same Scarab.

no that leaves them 10 units since covenant max is 50 not 40, also infantry die the fastest against scarab, its your fault for spamming.  I find it funny that most people fight with cutter only fight with odst I just use 20 flamers and get them ranked 3 and destroy their bases with grizzlies, and hornets  

Right because Cutter can totally build Grizzlies.