Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

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  •  06-28-2009, 9:41 AM 636856 in reply to 636823

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    Like I have said thousands of times before the UNSC would utterly dominate the US.

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  •  06-28-2009, 2:40 PM 637114 in reply to 636549

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

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    kasrkin seath:

    A fragmentaion grenade will obviously have less effect from the fragmentation if you laid on it because it would change the direction of the fragments. You are however recieving a much larger concussion effect up close.

    An A.I., no matter how smart, cannot hack most of those missiles or their guidance systems. There are a good number of missiles which have an onboard computer that cannot be changed. Once its direction is set, its set. You cant hack it either since there is no way for it to even recieve a signal to be hacked.

     

    "Smart" (note the quotes) A.I.s are more powerful than "Dumb" A.I. A "dumb" A.I. can easily guide over 10,000 and keep track of every ship in the UNSC fleet Pre-war, a smart A.I. is 10x more powerful because it uses a human brains (forget the word ATM) pathways and can learn and have feeling and personalities. It would easily take over any and all missles and most ships each have a "dumb" A.I. so its not just one, they have A.I.'s that are soly meant to infiltrate other com/ tracking/ect...  and the non guided missles useually are required to have failsafes that can be accessed out side incase a peace treaty is made while in  flight or the situation changes. They can also be shot out of the sky fairly easily . also the UNSC have missles aswell. small ships (aprox) 12 (6 missles each), medieum Aprox 24-26, large ships can have much more.

    It would be like trying to break into someones house, except the house has no entrances and the walls cannot be damaged.

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    also underlined they are required by the u.n. to have remote activated failsafes and it would not be hard to shoot them out of the sky from space

  •  06-28-2009, 5:35 PM 637392 in reply to 637114

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    Here's the breakdown of the war...

    UNSC launch Prototype NOVA warhead through a Slipspace portal...

    NOVA Warhead lands somewhere in the Continental US.

    US citizen looks at it, "Ooh pretty.."

    NOVA Warhead explodes annihilating anything within like a 2000 Mile Radius, and rips the Atmosphere to bits, US with the rest of the world dies out from UV radiation and lack of oxygen.

    Congrats UNSC won without engaging in a single battle, without losing a single person.

    Carnage report:

    Earth:6 billion

    UNSC:0


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  •  06-28-2009, 5:43 PM 637412 in reply to 637392

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    tmspartan:

    Here's the breakdown of the war...

    UNSC launch Prototype NOVA warhead through a Slipspace portal...

    NOVA Warhead lands somewhere in the Continental US.

    US citizen looks at it, "Ooh pretty.."

    NOVA Warhead explodes annihilating anything within like a 2000 Mile Radius, and rips the Atmosphere to bits, US with the rest of the world dies out from UV radiation and lack of oxygen.

    Congrats UNSC won without engaging in a single battle, without losing a single person.

    Carnage report:

    Earth:6 billion

    UNSC:0

    The Nova cant be that accurate if your firing it out of slipspace.


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  •  06-28-2009, 5:48 PM 637433 in reply to 637392

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    Missiles can have them removed fairly easily.
    We have waaaaaaaaaaaaay more missiles than they do on their ships, and we can also shoot missiles down.

    @tmspartan - First of all, the UNSC does not have the technology to launch a NOVA through slipspace and have it land ANYWHERE near its target. The NOVA would likely end up far enough away that it would take several hours, possibly even days to reach Earth, thats if it even exited slipspace and didn't bypass us completely in the process.

    We can shoot down missiles/bombs just as easily, if not more easily than the UNSC could. The NOVA could quite easily be destroyed by missiles of our own, or even lasers depending on how advanced our military is compared to what it says right now.


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  •  06-28-2009, 6:09 PM 637499 in reply to 637433

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    few more points

    1. UNSC has access to tech from 500 years prior (A.K.A the U.S.)

    2. We now the UNSC from games/books there is more to them than we know, We know everything that the U.S. Military has through daily news.

    3.SPARTANS (explains it self)

    4.UNSC-Giant flying space ships U.S.A.-Boat.

    5.ODST's nothing can deploy that fast, and much better than the standard soilder.

    6.The BR, if you read the Halo 2 hand book, it sais it fires Tiny explosives. 36 explosive rounds per clip.

    7. on the humorus side in halo the UNSC dont have to reload and have infinite amounts of ammo.

    8. how could the U.S. even compare?


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  •  06-28-2009, 6:13 PM 637511 in reply to 637433

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    kasrkin seath:

    @tmspartan - First of all, the UNSC does not have the technology to launch a NOVA through slipspace and have it land ANYWHERE near its target. The NOVA would likely end up far enough away that it would take several hours, possibly even days to reach Earth, thats if it even exited slipspace and didn't bypass us completely in the process.

    We can shoot down missiles/bombs just as easily, if not more easily than the UNSC could. The NOVA could quite easily be destroyed by missiles of our own, or even lasers depending on how advanced our military is compared to what it says right now.

    First of all the UNSC does have the technology to launch nuclear warheads through Slipspace, they have done it to the Covenant before.

    And they have the technology to do it fairly accurate as well. And if they were going to launch the bomb at Earth, and we shot it down, we would still be screwed because of its explosion, there is no way to stop it from exploding.

    Not to mention that if they were to engage us they would sit outside our missiles range and then bombard us with massive nuclear strikes. We could not shoot down a UNSC ship unless it was in low orbit, otherwise they would see the missile coming and shoot it down.


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  •  06-28-2009, 6:34 PM 637558 in reply to 637511

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.


    tmspartan:First of all the UNSC does have the technology to launch nuclear warheads through Slipspace, they have done it to the Covenant before.

    Please show the proof of this.

     

    tmspartan:And they have the technology to do it fairly accurate as well. And if they were going to launch the bomb at Earth, and we shot it down, we would still be screwed because of its explosion, there is no way to stop it from exploding.

    That would require a hugeass bomb. Or maybe you got the wrong information regarding the size of earth.

     

    tmspartan:Not to mention that if they were to engage us they would sit outside our missiles range and then bombard us with massive nuclear strikes. We could not shoot down a UNSC ship unless it was in low orbit, otherwise they would see the missile coming and shoot it down.

    I think they would rather use Archer Missiles or maybe a MAC strike.


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  •  06-28-2009, 6:39 PM 637566 in reply to 637511

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    tmspartan:
    kasrkin seath:

    @tmspartan - First of all, the UNSC does not have the technology to launch a NOVA through slipspace and have it land ANYWHERE near its target. The NOVA would likely end up far enough away that it would take several hours, possibly even days to reach Earth, thats if it even exited slipspace and didn't bypass us completely in the process.

    We can shoot down missiles/bombs just as easily, if not more easily than the UNSC could. The NOVA could quite easily be destroyed by missiles of our own, or even lasers depending on how advanced our military is compared to what it says right now.

    First of all the UNSC does have the technology to launch nuclear warheads through Slipspace, they have done it to the Covenant before.

    When?

    And they have the technology to do it fairly accurate as well. And if they were going to launch the bomb at Earth, and we shot it down, we would still be screwed because of its explosion, there is no way to stop it from exploding.

    First of all, if you 'shot it down' and it was in space, IF the warhead even survived it would be blown severely off course. Also, shooting a nuclear warhead does not set it off. A series of VERY PRECISE explosions are required within it to have it go off properly(and not just fizzle out). This is sompounded in a Nova since it requires many of these to occur precisely at the same time. Simple hitting it with a missile could destroy the warhead or throw these off, which means a small explosion or none at all.

    Not to mention that if they were to engage us they would sit outside our missiles range and then bombard us with massive nuclear strikes. We could not shoot down a UNSC ship unless it was in low orbit, otherwise they would see the missile coming and shoot it down.

    We could shoot at them with railguns :), or use LOTS AND LOTS of missiles.

    First of all, when this thread was made I am guessing it was made to guage the UNSC vs. US ON THE GROUND. Of course the UNSC wins in space, we ALL know this. Instead of repeatedly saying the UNSC wins because of space, how about trying to argue why they win on the ground.


    I thought they took these away.
    So I herd u liek mudkipz
  •  06-28-2009, 6:42 PM 637574 in reply to 637566

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    kasrkin seath:

    First of all, when this thread was made I am guessing it was made to guage the UNSC vs. US ON THE GROUND. Of course the UNSC wins in space, we ALL know this. Instead of repeatedly saying the UNSC wins because of space, how about trying to argue why they win on the ground.

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  •  06-28-2009, 7:17 PM 637664 in reply to 637566

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    kasrkin seath:
    tmspartan:
    kasrkin seath:

    @tmspartan - First of all, the UNSC does not have the technology to launch a NOVA through slipspace and have it land ANYWHERE near its target. The NOVA would likely end up far enough away that it would take several hours, possibly even days to reach Earth, thats if it even exited slipspace and didn't bypass us completely in the process.

    We can shoot down missiles/bombs just as easily, if not more easily than the UNSC could. The NOVA could quite easily be destroyed by missiles of our own, or even lasers depending on how advanced our military is compared to what it says right now.

    First of all the UNSC does have the technology to launch nuclear warheads through Slipspace, they have done it to the Covenant before.

    When?

    And they have the technology to do it fairly accurate as well. And if they were going to launch the bomb at Earth, and we shot it down, we would still be screwed because of its explosion, there is no way to stop it from exploding.

    First of all, if you 'shot it down' and it was in space, IF the warhead even survived it would be blown severely off course. Also, shooting a nuclear warhead does not set it off. A series of VERY PRECISE explosions are required within it to have it go off properly(and not just fizzle out). This is sompounded in a Nova since it requires many of these to occur precisely at the same time. Simple hitting it with a missile could destroy the warhead or throw these off, which means a small explosion or none at all.

    Not to mention that if they were to engage us they would sit outside our missiles range and then bombard us with massive nuclear strikes. We could not shoot down a UNSC ship unless it was in low orbit, otherwise they would see the missile coming and shoot it down.

    We could shoot at them with railguns :), or use LOTS AND LOTS of missiles.

    First of all, when this thread was made I am guessing it was made to guage the UNSC vs. US ON THE GROUND. Of course the UNSC wins in space, we ALL know this. Instead of repeatedly saying the UNSC wins because of space, how about trying to argue why they win on the ground.

    Couple of things of course...

    First the UNSC have precisely launched a nuclear warhead at a Covenant base in the Pegasi Delta system. Covenant shot it down, but that's not the point.

    Second I doubt the US would even see the warhead coming, considering we don't have radiation monitors in space, and anything that small wouldn't phase astronomers or other scientists into informing the US military. And by the time it was noticed it would've hit the ground already.

    And finally the UNSC could bombard Earth with thousands of nuclear warheads and missiles before we could even organize a decision for use of nuclear weapons.

    Oh and if the post was about UNSC ground forces against US ground forces, it should have been stated in the original post, and it should have been named "UNSC vs US", because in this case it is the Covenant, Flood, UNSC, and Forerunners, or Precursors; against the US.

    So the actual argument should be who would win all the above mentioned forces or the US? And that's not even an argument...it's a fact.


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  •  06-28-2009, 7:24 PM 637691 in reply to 637664

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    Where was this stated?

     If they are tracking asteroids in the asteroid belt and notices anything when its coming, I am sure they would notices something coming out of slipspace.

    I doubt they could have thousands of nukes out that quickly, if they even had that many

    Well, the recent discussion has been about UNSC vs. US, and on the ground, the US has some stuff that makes what the UNSC has look like toys.


    I thought they took these away.
    So I herd u liek mudkipz
  •  06-28-2009, 8:00 PM 637802 in reply to 637691

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    kasrkin seath:

    Where was this stated?

     If they are tracking asteroids in the asteroid belt and notices anything when its coming, I am sure they would notices something coming out of slipspace.

    I doubt they could have thousands of nukes out that quickly, if they even had that many

    Well, the recent discussion has been about UNSC vs. US, and on the ground, the US has some stuff that makes what the UNSC has look like toys.

    Oh god please do not lead me down this road once more. The ground forces have already been discussed, please look back at the other pages rather than restart the cycle that this post has been going in, I have posted a majority of the pro-UNSC posts that have reasons, so I know what this post is about, please do not make me copy and paste everything I have posted before, because there is no need for a new argument.


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  •  06-29-2009, 2:21 AM 638096 in reply to 636856

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    halo universe sends the arbiter and gives him infinate suplies, he comes down to earth and starts raging. no disruption bomb or spartanks with canister, arbiter rages everything.

    on a more serious note, 1 spartan orbital dropped on earth with an ai of any sort would be able to hack all computers on earth conected to the internet. he will also control all satilite and communication on earth. he can fire all the us nuclear weapons on the us and win. or he can watch all the pr0nz in the world


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  •  06-29-2009, 3:22 AM 638123 in reply to 638096

    Re: Halo Universe vs. the U.S.

    this is STILL going? omg guys come on now, my post is like on number 5....haha

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    oh well I got twenty more hahah

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