Nice, restrained patch guys. The temptation must have been there to tweak almost everything but glad you didnt. Most of this game is balanced on a razor and needs no alteration.

 

But......those Gauss hogs. Theyre just a tad too cheap if you ask me. Hog rush is one thing....but when they get to Gauss they're almost unstoppable. 150 for a unit that powerful is just too much. Rather than dropping its attack power though, i'd make it Tech 4. That way people wouldnt rest their entire attack plan around them cos by the time they can build them, everything else is available too.

Thats probably the only change i'd make.  

I don't know if this has been covered,  because it was not mentioned in the patch details, but did you(The mods) make the docks playable on 2v2?  I've heard of a couple people getting docks on 2v2 but in 50 or so 2v2 games I haven't gotten the docks once.  In 1v1 I get it all the time.

Another interesting thing, I've only played 90ish mostly under 30 minute games but after my first game recieving the patch I jumped from lieutenant to major.  I didnt think I had that much xp to do that, was it a glitch or did the points get downscaled that much?

my friend had the 4,294,000,000 points till next rank thing and i have lobby freezes all the time

 

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Scarabs are Actually Garbage when they get swarmed. 20 hawks vs 2 scarabs: both scarabs die 2 hawks die. I laugh at the enemies epic failure.

i realize it might be a little to late but i want to know your thoughts.i live aurora Colorado i pre ordered halo wars limited edition and picked it up in store.this is what i was expecting the prima hint book,the Honor guard wrath,three new halo maps,halo wars genesis,and six leader cards.i got everything listed except the flaming hog.i was wondering why i didn't get it so i thought that some other people might have this problem so i waited nothing came up.now i speak. what should i do? does any one else have this problem? i do realize that this is game stops problem. i went to my local game stop. yes my game stop was participating with the flaming hog.another reason why i waited so late was because when the game first came out you couldn't exactly show off to the fine gentlemen up til now.

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FlyingGR:

Personally, I  play as Anders, and I never rushed until I faced warthog rushes of my  own, now I have to rush just to counter a rush

I don't see what was wrong with Anders upgrades before, as you stated everything was at half cost.  The cryo bomb was pretty much "NON-LETHAL" unless you were spamming air.  So are you telling me that the air rushers were whining that my cryo bomb was killing their units too fast because they were stupid enough to rush with air against an Anders?  Or were they whining that I didn't kill enough of them before?

As far as the prophet goes, my complaint was that people upgraded the PoR with blessed Immulation so fast that a UNSC couldn't get 3 hogs with even gunner so fast with only 1 reactor, and 1 supply pad, and another supply pad on queue.  Even with 5, a shielded PoR would wipe them out as a shielded hunter.  And this was with the hogs running in circles to dodge cleansing beams.

I support NewWhiteFeather's position about nerfing the PoR's speed.  Anyone can kill the PoR easily, speed was never the issue.  It was more about what his upgrades were, and I along with so many people have already suggested making the PoR shield an upgrade or something attached to the Forunner shield upgrade (not to mention that is a code that is easy to edit in the game).

 The whole issue is that we are seeing people abusing one unit then people move on to abuse another unit once a patch comes along.  What will happen when people start noticing that the warthog and grizzlies are now OP due to the patch since people can no longer rush with the PoR effectively?

 

Yeah, man. Ever since the patch came out, I've encountered a warthog rush 4 out of 5 times. Ridiculous. 

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I only play 3v3 standard. Highest Overall ranking: 2nd.

FlyingGR:

FlyingGR:yeah, I know, I laugh at fine gentlemen or even 3-stars who rush with hogs against me as Anders, I just love how they send them, and I could use hogs or gremlins on them, but the fact is that, people like to exploit a quick win for little points, rather than just let a long drawn out war go on, and get huge points.  That is the only reason the rushers got their way for the ranks being so easy to be achieved now.  The rushers whined for getting so little points and whined even more realizing their tactics would take them years to get General.  So rather than sucking up and changing tactics, we keeled over and stooped down to their level for them to pat themselves on the back for getting 500,000 for a 2 star?

That is just wrong, fine gentleman? oh come on, get real with this filter, since when is n    o    o   b an offensive and vulgar word?

 Ok, I understand where you're coming from. It's easy to see how people who rush would be ranking up easier now with the new point system, but I'm not sure you understand the situation completely. I'm a brigadier, recently ranked up from a colonel because of the new ranking system. If you look at my personal game stats on this website, you'll see that I've averaged well over 30 gauss hogs per game. Hogs are my primary unit and they're how I get 98% of my points and victories. What I don't think you understand is that there's a difference between rushing and massing. I rush maybe 1 out of every 10 games, only when both my teammates are wanting to rush. Rushing definitely isn't n00bish because it's still a strategic option in a Real Time Strategy game. My game plan always consists of massing Gauss ASAP and using them as my main force. It's very probable that these 'rushers' you've encountered have been using their forces to squeeze points out of players who don't destroy their bases before their gone. The only thing that determines whether something is a rush attack on you is how long you take to get ready for a rush. If it takes you forever to be fully prepared for a rush then anything will seem like a rush to you. These 2 and even 3 stars that are ranking up through hogs are only operating on a faster game speed then what you can comprehend right now. The rank shows how long they've played and how accustomed they've become with the game's environment, not that they've rushed this whole time and been graced with the recent update. This reply isn't intended to be offensive in any way. Rather, just incredibly defensive on the side of 'rushers'. If you mass one specific unit every game forever, eventually you become so fast in producing them that other players think you're rushing. That's not right. 

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I only play 3v3 standard. Highest Overall ranking: 2nd.

Did they ever fixed the fireball warthog and honor guard wraith glitch? I think mine got deleted.

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BrototheXtrem

Hog rushing, just like any other method of attack, is a legitimate strategy, a player is only utilising the features within the game. If you don't want to be a victim of a hog rush get your scout over to your opponents base early on and build to counter any rush he/she may be planning, i.e. play the game. Don't moan because someone attacks before you are ready, this isn't pistols at dawn in Olde England, instead of bitching for pages and pages why not use your collective knowledge and come up with a blinding counter to stop anders gauss rush, it's not robots' job to help you win.

Tr0mb0n3 117:

FlyingGR:

FlyingGR:yeah, I know, I laugh at fine gentlemen or even 3-stars who rush with hogs against me as Anders, I just love how they send them, and I could use hogs or gremlins on them, but the fact is that, people like to exploit a quick win for little points, rather than just let a long drawn out war go on, and get huge points.  That is the only reason the rushers got their way for the ranks being so easy to be achieved now.  The rushers whined for getting so little points and whined even more realizing their tactics would take them years to get General.  So rather than sucking up and changing tactics, we keeled over and stooped down to their level for them to pat themselves on the back for getting 500,000 for a 2 star?

That is just wrong, fine gentleman? oh come on, get real with this filter, since when is n    o    o   b an offensive and vulgar word?

 Ok, I understand where you're coming from. It's easy to see how people who rush would be ranking up easier now with the new point system, but I'm not sure you understand the situation completely. I'm a brigadier, recently ranked up from a colonel because of the new ranking system. If you look at my personal game stats on this website, you'll see that I've averaged well over 30 gauss hogs per game. Hogs are my primary unit and they're how I get 98% of my points and victories. What I don't think you understand is that there's a difference between rushing and massing. I rush maybe 1 out of every 10 games, only when both my teammates are wanting to rush. Rushing definitely isn't n00bish because it's still a strategic option in a Real Time Strategy game. My game plan always consists of massing Gauss ASAP and using them as my main force. It's very probable that these 'rushers' you've encountered have been using their forces to squeeze points out of players who don't destroy their bases before their gone. The only thing that determines whether something is a rush attack on you is how long you take to get ready for a rush. If it takes you forever to be fully prepared for a rush then anything will seem like a rush to you. These 2 and even 3 stars that are ranking up through hogs are only operating on a faster game speed then what you can comprehend right now. The rank shows how long they've played and how accustomed they've become with the game's environment, not that they've rushed this whole time and been graced with the recent update. This reply isn't intended to be offensive in any way. Rather, just incredibly defensive on the side of 'rushers'. If you mass one specific unit every game forever, eventually you become so fast in producing them that other players think you're rushing. That's not right. 

I play with him, he's in my clan, he doesn't lose to "rushing" that much. However, when he complains about rushing, he is using incorrect terminology and i've told him before. What he hates is exactly what you described. You sir, do not "mass" hogs, you spam them. And for that you are a fine gentleman.

JACKO pay close attention to this. Hog spamming is not a strategy. Strategy implies you can actually play out each unit to it's full potential and have formulated a well thought out use of those units.

Give a *** what you say, you're still a fine gentleman.

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You can run, but you'll die tired!

gamestop ran out here in sa they could not advertise for it because they only got 50 in for the code so only 50 people got them they ran out i bet

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It can't rain all the time- Eric
This world is made of...LOVE AND PEACE- Vash
Red is the color of determination in the language of the flowers- Rem

narcoguy531:i realize it might be a little to late but i want to know your thoughts.i live aurora Colorado i pre ordered halo wars limited edition and picked it up in store.this is what i was expecting the prima hint book,the Honor guard wrath,three new halo maps,halo wars genesis,and six leader cards.i got everything listed except the flaming hog.i was wondering why i didn't get it so i thought that some other people might have this problem so i waited nothing came up.now i speak. what should i do? does any one else have this problem? i do realize that this is game stops problem. i went to my local game stop. yes my game stop was participating with the flaming hog.another reason why i waited so late was because when the game first came out you couldn't exactly show off to the fine gentlemen up til now.

look on your email, and don't tell me u can't find it

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pigs can fly with redbull, and birds can't with white bull, and master chief becomes a banana if he drinks yellow bull. heed my warnings.

u should make it that everyone get the flaming warthog and elite honour gaurd wraith.

READY FOR THE SEQUEL IS ABSOLUTELY NOT FIXED >.<

What the hell did your update do to the Skirmish AI?!

Now whenever I try to test a new strategy in skirmish and my ally/opponent is Cutter or Forge, they always do aircraft while Anders only does Gremlins.

The covy leaders remain as is though.

 

Also a glitch I got shortly after the update was on Crevice. I made a group of about 10 warthogs and tried sending them to an enemy base to supplement my teammates assault. 3 of the warthogs fell into various ravines on the way....fell...into the ravines.

Ok, so I also have one of those spare bases, particularly the one in the far back. I use it to start spawning Hawks. since those warthogs are still stuck.

Normally when a Hawk exits your base, it's map marker appears on your base(on the map) because that's where it spawns. In this match, the marker appeared about 2 base lengths behind my base (outside of the *** map) and once it exited the airspace above the base, it flew to that dot....outside the map and got stuck as I tried keeping the other 12 Hawks from doing the same.

The entire time, the base flag was right out front of the base.

 

Ditto... fine gentleman, cough no o b, cough fine gentleman

Newwhitefeather:

Tr0mb0n3 117:

FlyingGR:

FlyingGR:yeah, I know, I laugh at fine gentlemen or even 3-stars who rush with hogs against me as Anders, I just love how they send them, and I could use hogs or gremlins on them, but the fact is that, people like to exploit a quick win for little points, rather than just let a long drawn out war go on, and get huge points.  That is the only reason the rushers got their way for the ranks being so easy to be achieved now.  The rushers whined for getting so little points and whined even more realizing their tactics would take them years to get General.  So rather than sucking up and changing tactics, we keeled over and stooped down to their level for them to pat themselves on the back for getting 500,000 for a 2 star?

That is just wrong, fine gentleman? oh come on, get real with this filter, since when is n    o    o   b an offensive and vulgar word?

 Ok, I understand where you're coming from. It's easy to see how people who rush would be ranking up easier now with the new point system, but I'm not sure you understand the situation completely. I'm a brigadier, recently ranked up from a colonel because of the new ranking system. If you look at my personal game stats on this website, you'll see that I've averaged well over 30 gauss hogs per game. Hogs are my primary unit and they're how I get 98% of my points and victories. What I don't think you understand is that there's a difference between rushing and massing. I rush maybe 1 out of every 10 games, only when both my teammates are wanting to rush. Rushing definitely isn't n00bish because it's still a strategic option in a Real Time Strategy game. My game plan always consists of massing Gauss ASAP and using them as my main force. It's very probable that these 'rushers' you've encountered have been using their forces to squeeze points out of players who don't destroy their bases before their gone. The only thing that determines whether something is a rush attack on you is how long you take to get ready for a rush. If it takes you forever to be fully prepared for a rush then anything will seem like a rush to you. These 2 and even 3 stars that are ranking up through hogs are only operating on a faster game speed then what you can comprehend right now. The rank shows how long they've played and how accustomed they've become with the game's environment, not that they've rushed this whole time and been graced with the recent update. This reply isn't intended to be offensive in any way. Rather, just incredibly defensive on the side of 'rushers'. If you mass one specific unit every game forever, eventually you become so fast in producing them that other players think you're rushing. That's not right. 

I play with him, he's in my clan, he doesn't lose to "rushing" that much. However, when he complains about rushing, he is using incorrect terminology and i've told him before. What he hates is exactly what you described. You sir, do not "mass" hogs, you spam them. And for that you are a fine gentleman.

JACKO pay close attention to this. Hog spamming is not a strategy. Strategy implies you can actually play out each unit to it's full potential and have formulated a well thought out use of those units.

Give a *** what you say, you're still a fine gentleman.