Hi, I honestly dont want to start a flame wars or anything ok i am just wondering how people deal with this rush as i cant seem to handle it everytime.

Right 3 games in a row i have been against a prophet, and he builds a hall and goes for hunters and jackels. basically they send the PoR to my base where ive just managed to get going and he attacks me, destroys one of my turrets (which i build everytime i go against covi) with his cleansing beam. I manage to hurt him by taking his shield down and he runs away and 2-3 minutes later when i managed to build a few units etc, he brings hunters and jackels with his PoR.

Was just wondering how to counter this, the hunters desimate warthogs, jackels destroy flamers depending on how many he has, and the PoR destroys turrets in seconds especially with the hunters supressing fire on them as well. I was thinking about trying to go for hornets but never got around to it and i dont know if you can manage to build them in time? idk

Oh and i do scout, i know it is coming but the combinating of anti infantry and vehicles is destroying me so early on :\

I also tryed rushing with warthogs to his base, can have bout 5 of them with grenadiers in the time he decides to attack me but 4-5 squads of hunters really hurt, Ye you can ram them but no way you can take out all of them, you can micro them ofc but they get stuck to each other and no way off dodging them beams.

Was just wondering if anyone can help me, probably i am doing something completly wrong but i honestly struggle countering this.

Oh and please dont flame. i respect your comments and thoughts etc but really dont need to hear them if you have nothing to constructive to say, i dont mind a little critism ofc.

Thankks

Well, what I would do is focus on turtling if this is a constant problem. Build up your defenses and make additional bases.

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Shadow Titan:Well, what I would do is focus on turtling if this is a constant problem. Build up your defenses and make additional bases.

Thanks

But this is very hard to do 4 minutes into a game. I build defences, 4 flame mortars i had and i dont know how he killed them all so quick. Base expansion :\ i dont know if i want to expand that early on :P

But ill try it and see wat happens.

Marty99:

Shadow Titan:Well, what I would do is focus on turtling if this is a constant problem. Build up your defenses and make additional bases.

Thanks

But this is very hard to do 4 minutes into a game. I build defences, 4 flame mortars i had and i dont know how he killed them all so quick. Base expansion :\ i dont know if i want to expand that early on :P

But ill try it and see wat happens.

hmm, it would be easier to counter with covenant(I like using the leader), because he can take out just about anything with certain upgrades researched

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I use a PoR rush strat for 1v1 a lot.

What can turn me back is when they have 2 turrets built when I get there - so probably qued up first

Also lock your main building and release a group of soldiers at once, FF on the hero.  It is a pita to replace at early stages of game.

When you unlock your base, if you have the cash, drop a disruption bomb on hero unit.

Hope this helps

Yeah two turrets and hellraisers would work to stop him do his early rush, they just seem to do that to mess my eco up a bit, then they bring all the hunters and jackels and i just seem defensless, i dont have much of a problem vs the initial PoR rush, just the units he brings next.

You could try this though its not very creative:

Pick Cpt Cutter, Build elephant immediately, build upto 3 supply pads and just spam marines from the elephant. If you can kill his leader while protecting your elephant then you can counter attack by moving your elephant and whatever surviving marines down to his base and build more marines there while the elepahant's gunner helps out

Even if the counter attack fails you should have a lead on development that is decisive

 PS: I know that this is a basic strategy - if the leader retreats then just expand as normal, keeping upgrading marines and add some hornets later on

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*** this post i am done with this bad excuse of a RTS game. Same *** every 1v1. PoR spam off infantry what can u do vs it? seriously u can not build anythin in the ammount of time to counter it.

Well you could play as the Arbiter and mess him up hard, or you could kill the Prophet on his initial rush. The best way to do so might be to play Anders. Build two supply pads, a reactor, barracks. Lock all your flame throwers in your base. Get the Chain Gun upgrade, keep building flame throwers and warthogs; also make sure you have a turret.. Scout with your other Warthog to see when/if he is coming. Now this is very, very important. If he runs away, or if he teleports back, CHASE HIM! He won't expect it, and will use his cleansing beam. Spread out your troops somewhat. He'll waste all of his resources trying to kill you, and eventually you will have killed his Prophet and counter rushed.

build flames and use the disruprion bomb....

Well just upgrade jackals with shield when you know hes going to leader rush, than lock base and build like 10 jackals when hes coming unlock your base and select jackals, then keep on moving your jackals around PoR(they will keep shooting when moving) he will be dead in like 6 secs then just kill his units, i faced PoR like 10 times and never lost with upgraded shield jackals, just keep moving them serious so cleansing wont hit you

Killlg:Well you could play as the Arbiter and mess him up hard, or you could kill the Prophet on his initial rush. The best way to do so might be to play Anders. Build two supply pads, a reactor, barracks. Lock all your flame throwers in your base. Get the Chain Gun upgrade, keep building flame throwers and warthogs; also make sure you have a turret.. Scout with your other Warthog to see when/if he is coming. Now this is very, very important. If he runs away, or if he teleports back, CHASE HIM! He won't expect it, and will use his cleansing beam. Spread out your troops somewhat. He'll waste all of his resources trying to kill you, and eventually you will have killed his Prophet and counter rushed.

Its not his initial rush of just him which messes me up, its when he has a mass of hunters and jackels or honor gaurd i dont know how to kill them, hunters *** warthogs jackels *** flamers. PoR *** turrets. Its just got really boring and repative 21 prophets in a row on 1v1 only won 8 :\ i am sick off it so boring this game. And what do you mean by lock my flamers in base?

Immediately hit the back button to see what leader you are up against. If it's Cov, build barracks first along with getting a turret in as well. Then queue up supply pads and a tech lastly. Lock your base and immediately start building flamers and you can have 5-6 in your base before he gets there. By then you should have already built a second turret and it should just be getting up when he arrives. Make sure your first turret is upgraded to flame mortar and do the same with the second. All this time you are running your warthog around gathering supplies so when he arrives, allow him to start attacking your turrets, when the turret hits halfway, unlock your base with flamers and drop a disruption bomb on him. They will make mince meat out of him and don't forget to chase because most people don't do that. As soon as he sees the flamers come out in force he will crap himself and pull back but make sure you chase and take him out because it prevents his troop from porting right to him, plus leaders are cheap in the beginning of the game. After that its up to you if you wanna hurry to his base and do as much damage as possibly there. You need to be able to multitask in this game which is very hard at times. After all this you should have had Spartans queued up, along with a second tech coming and getting chain guns immediately. 3 Spartans with chain guns can reduce whatever second wave he sends along with your turrets and whatever remaining flamers you have. It's all annoying but easily defended. It takes away from your initial build plan but once 2 waves fail, they usually stop and try and tech up, by then it's too late for them and you win 99% of the time. Hope this helps and don't give up on the game. It's fun once you know how to stop Cov rushers because then you know in your head you are smarter and now have the edge. Also I forgot to mention, when queing up buildings, don't get them all at once. It spends all your money but only builds one at a time. This way if he come earlier you have enough money for a quick mac blast/cryobomb/carpetbomb. Use the resources given to you at the start wisely.

TurkeyHoagie83

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Marty99:

Killlg:Well you could play as the Arbiter and mess him up hard, or you could kill the Prophet on his initial rush. The best way to do so might be to play Anders. Build two supply pads, a reactor, barracks. Lock all your flame throwers in your base. Get the Chain Gun upgrade, keep building flame throwers and warthogs; also make sure you have a turret.. Scout with your other Warthog to see when/if he is coming. Now this is very, very important. If he runs away, or if he teleports back, CHASE HIM! He won't expect it, and will use his cleansing beam. Spread out your troops somewhat. He'll waste all of his resources trying to kill you, and eventually you will have killed his Prophet and counter rushed.

Its not his initial rush of just him which messes me up, its when he has a mass of hunters and jackels or honor gaurd i dont know how to kill them, hunters *** warthogs jackels *** flamers. PoR *** turrets. Its just got really boring and repative 21 prophets in a row on 1v1 only won 8 :\ i am sick off it so boring this game. And what do you mean by lock my flamers in base?

Select your base and use the lock feature. Whatever soldiers you make will stay inside until you let them out yourself. Rather than 1 unit coming out at a time getting picked off it will release all at once making it harder to deal with on his end.

TurkeyHoagie83

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Turkey,

That's one of the best posts I've seen in this forum yet.  Thanks!