Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

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  •  03-23-2007, 1:58 PM 47017 in reply to 45018

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    what about the flood

     


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  •  03-23-2007, 2:09 PM 47021 in reply to 47017

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    most likely there is a main source for gain speed and maintaning effeciancy the fans are most likely for directionaly purposes. no need for a jet when you need minimal directional movement.


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  •  03-23-2007, 2:11 PM 47024 in reply to 47021

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    well it dos not mean anthing with out the flood

     


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  •  03-23-2007, 2:51 PM 47038 in reply to 47024

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    I'm not following you, what does the Flood have to do with a aircraft designed 30 years before the Flood were first discovered?
  •  03-23-2007, 2:51 PM 47039 in reply to 47024

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    Eliteempire is asking whether the flood are going to be in Halo wars or not... at least that is what I am asuming... 

    eliteempire:

    well it dos not mean anthing with out the flood

     

    ok, the flood are not, repeat not going to be in Halo wars.  IT TAKES PLACE 30 OR SO YEARS BEFORE THEY EVEN FIND THE FLOOD.



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  •  03-23-2007, 2:55 PM 47040 in reply to 46994

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    e=mc2 trooper:

    UL71M4 G33K:
    Who knows, they could be fueled by water, there is someone who invented a plasma torch to run off water, as well as his car.

    That's the way nearly all hydrogen is obtained, the plasma torch doesn't run off of water, it runs off of hydrogen that has been separated from water through electrolysis (very energy intensive process). Although it might make sense if you have a fusion powered space ship that can just gulp up an entire lake to transform in hydrogen fuel, it is by no means an energy efficient process.

     

    but, the hydrogen and oxygen can be recombined and the process can be started all over again, using the same water right?  because it only uses the energy that is put out by the hydrogen seperating from the oxygen right?

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  •  03-23-2007, 3:36 PM 47044 in reply to 47040

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    It follows the laws of thermodynamics, conservation of mass and energy. You can't just separate 2H from O without significant energy expenditure. You see, gaseous hydrogen requires about 50% more energy to create than it releases as an end product. Furthermore, turning hydrogen into a liquid (it's still about 1/3 less energy dense as a liquid then gasoline, oddly, the gasoline hydrocarbon actually has more hydrogen in it per volume then liquid hydrogen) is a process that requires another 50% of the total energy of the hydrogen created. So the creation of liquid hydrogen is currently 100% inefficient at best, and I've read that the theoretical limit of liquid hydrogen (the limit that will be the same in 500 or 1000 years) is about 60% inefficient.

    I also add that the liquid state of a substance is just about as dense as it can get, it becomes exponentially more difficult to make a liquid (or solid) become more dense. For example, the perfectly spherical hollow "lens" of high explosives that surrounds a implosion method nuclear bomb can make plutonium or uranium up to 8 times more dense (it has to be insanely perfect and efficient) for a fraction of a second, then, naturally, it explodes. I If I remember correctly, only Iron can be made into an ultra dense state and actually retain its ultra density, I think all other materials return to their normal density almost immediately, but I could be wrong about this property of iron.

  •  03-23-2007, 3:42 PM 47045 in reply to 47039

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    Oh, and Hydrogen does make sense from a utilitarian standpoint. A civilization with fusion technology does have enough energy to create a lot of hydrogen, but this is because fusion makes so much energy. So, the vehicles in Halo might just use hydrogen fuel because their spaceship can stop at any planet, moon, or comet and transform the native water into hydrogen for its vehicles. This doesn't mean that hydrogen would be the best fuel for an engine, just that it's much easier to make.
     

  •  03-23-2007, 3:46 PM 47047 in reply to 47039

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    so the flood sould be in the skemise at lese
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  •  03-23-2007, 3:48 PM 47051 in reply to 47047

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    to quote my earlier post:

    Kazzong:

    ok, the flood are not, repeat not going to be in Halo wars.  IT TAKES PLACE 30 OR SO YEARS BEFORE THEY EVEN FIND THE FLOOD.

    sorry.



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  •  03-23-2007, 3:52 PM 47056 in reply to 47047

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    There are threads about the Flood and Civilizations in game suggestions, this thread isn't about the Flood.
  •  03-23-2007, 3:59 PM 47058 in reply to 47056

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    I know that, he has posted questions about the flood in a whole bunch of threads including 2 of his own.  I have been trying to convince him that the Flood are not (which they aren't) going to be in Halo wars.  I also did make a post (part of the same) in this thread that was on topic.

    like I said before, after the Hydrogen and the Oxygen seperate, wouldn't they recombine natually if put in the same chamber?



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  •  03-23-2007, 4:10 PM 47069 in reply to 47058

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    Kazzong:
    like I said before, after the Hydrogen and the Oxygen seperate, wouldn't they recombine natually if put in the same chamber?

    Oh, yes, I failed to answer that last time: they would combine naturally (due to ambient energy like static electricity). This is the essence of combustion, oxygen combining with hydrogen to create water. Burning any hydrocarbons, like gasoline, actually creates water vapor. The bonding nature of free hydrogen is actually a growing concern because there is fear that hydrogen escaping from hydrogen cars would escape into the upper atmosphere where it would bond with the 0xygen 3( ozone) and harm the ozone layer.


  •  03-23-2007, 4:23 PM 47074 in reply to 47069

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    hydrogen leaking huh...  hm...  where did you hear that?  by the way, cool name.  you got that from AoE right?

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  •  03-23-2007, 4:43 PM 47084 in reply to 47074

    Re: Halo Wars Update 03.12.07

    I've seen it a lot recently, here's one source. As for my name, yup, derived from AoE. I thought it was appropriate, considering that Spartans use fusion powered suits (einstein wrote the letter to the Pres FDR that began our nuclear program), MC is short for Master Chief, and the Master Chief is a Spartan II (2), and of course, a trooper.Big Smile
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