YourBoss1337:

R.T. Larry:

The Great Kiewefrog:

R.T. Larry:

NHDragon-151:

Yes, i believe its possible. Almost everything that has to do with the UNSC i believe is possible. It will definately cost ALOT, and will take time, but this powered exosekleton/armor we call MJOLNIR is slowly becoming reality. That powered armor that was posted already has been in the works for about 20 years now.

Why would you say that an individual soldier doesnt need as much protection for his life as he can get?? Dragon Skin is very good armor, but the wearer can still be killed. MJOLNIR armor could provide complete protection from bullets, and relative protection explosives. Not to mention make the wearer stronger, so if a building collapses they can get any survivors out easier.

You're misunderstanding. The MJOLNIR is overkill protection, no one soldier needs that much protection. Something with that much armor is called a tank and is part of an armored division, today's tanks are operated by 5 people. Your hypothetical is more reminiciant of firefighters not warfighters.

It's like giving soldiers 5 rifles to go into battle, the soldier only needs one, five is entirely to many. 

 

 

I can't see a MJONLIR on the battle field at all.  Its jsut too expensive.  One tank shot and you lose several million dollars.  But I can see them in special operations and terrorist elimination.  It is not overkill when it comes to safety.  A 2-spartan group sent in to a building can do a lot more then normal marines, but with a less chance of casualties.  That too much protection is not a very practical thing.

Killing terrorists in a building with zero good guy casualties is simple, and you don't need expensive armor either, we call it a cruise missile. Obviously you oversimplified your hypothetical, like the last guy, Generally, the only time we know of tangos in a building is when they have hostages, which is when you send in a cqb team. Now I will try to explain this a third time. cqb teams have the correct amount of armor to complete the mission, not too much like the MJOLNIR, and not to little like your average cop. The real danger in cqb missions is the safety of the hostages who are at the mercy of the tangos.

Next, I assume you mean two man spartan group, Not every building is rated to have 4 thousand pounds of death machine in one spot, especially in a falling building. The weight also rules out many methods of battlefield transportation.

In short, the MJOLNIR armor is too much armor to be practical for individual soldier. 

 

actually, most of that weight is from the reinforced skeleton, and plus they would probably tone down the amount of material which would reduce the weight and keep alot of protection.

and as for the comment about having too much protection... i dont see how you can have too much protection, as long as you can still maneuver.  i mean, cqb teams have some armor, but would that protect from a shot to the head with a shotgun? in the case of MJOLNIR armor, its full-body protection, plus they would have targeting systems which would help them to take out the terrorists and not the hostages (no, they wouldnt have a green circle where it would be red in the case of an enemy, but it could help you see the weapons they are carrying and the number of people there are, etc.)

 

If you stripped down the MJOLNIR then you've just proved me right. Second, the MJOLNIR doesn't protect against a shotgun either, if you want to get particular.

About targeting systems, look up the Land Warrier system, it makes MJOLNIR look medieval in my opinion. 

US military developed the Land Warrior program so it could turn a soldier into a more effective tool, increase his lethality, durability, and survival rate and you eliminate the need for large numbers of troops and vehicles They want to see a soldier as an individual fighting machine rather then him being just a small part of a larger group as they do now so the idea of one highly trained warrior in a heavily armored powered exoskeleton that can do the work of an entire platoon is very appealing. We are not far away from having an exoskeleton that equals or surpasses the Mjonhir, they have already developed a plastic fiber that when touched by electructy it contracts with the strength 100x greater then that of human muscle, which means a person wearing this fiber could lift over 5 tons(sound familiar). The US Army want to field a fully functional self sustained armor by 2020, utilizing technologies that are currently in development or already existing such as liquid armor, self recharging power cell, artificial muscle and an advance heads up display. Popular Science has a great article out right now about exoskeletons(XOS, HAL-5) and ther future(read the actual magazine for it becuase their webiste for some reason doesn't have all of it). Also on a seperate note, the Marine Corp has a begun a program that would launch of platoon of Marine into space and have them land anywhere on the planet in less then 45 minutes after activation, sound like familiar

wow, i didnt even realise we were that close... and i agree with you 110% that this would both be effective, and it would be a big fear factor that could turn the tide of a battle (i mean think about it, you see a guy in a fully armored suit walk up, taking bullets but not slowing down).

not to mention the strength enhancements... 

i dont know if it applies, but it would be awesome to have a suit like iron man, it had no shields

dont know if you guys saw it yet.

The thing is, such a suit will come down in cost, and would allow a soldier to carry more armor and weapons.

Take an M-1A Abrams back to pre-WWII and tell them to make it. They'll tell you that it would be to darn expensive. Same with the suit.
 

Lethe:

Then you should be pretty happy with the game; it's a lot of fun.
Even if a squad of marines out of dozens of units on a battle field has shoulder pads .25" too thick for a fanboy's tastes :)

Lethe:

Then you should be pretty happy with the game; it's a lot of fun.
Even if a squad of marines out of dozens of units on a battle field has shoulder pads .25" too thick for a fanboy's tastes :)

Spartan-013:

US military developed the Land Warrior program so it could turn a soldier into a more effective tool, increase his lethality, durability, and survival rate and you eliminate the need for large numbers of troops and vehicles They want to see a soldier as an individual fighting machine rather then him being just a small part of a larger group as they do now so the idea of one highly trained warrior in a heavily armored powered exoskeleton that can do the work of an entire platoon is very appealing. We are not far away from having an exoskeleton that equals or surpasses the Mjonhir, they have already developed a plastic fiber that when touched by electructy it contracts with the strength 100x greater then that of human muscle, which means a person wearing this fiber could lift over 5 tons(sound familiar). The US Army want to field a fully functional self sustained armor by 2020, utilizing technologies that are currently in development or already existing such as liquid armor, self recharging power cell, artificial muscle and an advance heads up display. Popular Science has a great article out right now about exoskeletons(XOS, HAL-5) and ther future(read the actual magazine for it becuase their webiste for some reason doesn't have all of it). Also on a seperate note, the Marine Corp has a begun a program that would launch of platoon of Marine into space and have them land anywhere on the planet in less then 45 minutes after activation, sound like familiar

 

Impressive, but you've got the land warrior system backwards, It's intended to link the individual soldier into the larger group, without the larger group, land warrior is just 10 lbs of dead weight.

These newer technologies you've mentioned will probably take many decades to actually implement, take a look at the osprey project if you don't believe me. 

"Machines Break, Eyes don't" - Mendez 

If any one is going to make a power mech suit its gona be Japan

NHDragon-151:

Yes, i believe its possible. Almost everything that has to do with the UNSC i believe is possible. It will definately cost ALOT, and will take time, but this powered exosekleton/armor we call MJOLNIR is slowly becoming reality. That powered armor that was posted already has been in the works for about 20 years now.

Why would you say that an individual soldier doesnt need as much protection for his life as he can get?? Dragon Skin is very good armor, but the wearer can still be killed. MJOLNIR armor could provide complete protection from bullets, and relative protection explosives. Not to mention make the wearer stronger, so if a building collapses they can get any survivors out easier.

ive been told we're not too far off from the neural implants, either. well, ok, 'not far off' is an understatement...but as far as upgrading the person instead of the gear that said warrior carries, we're working on it. we've developed an optical implant (like surgically grafting a sort of perminant contact lense into your eye) that will let one 'zoom' onto a target with the the naked eye when one flexes a certain muscle withing the eye (or rather, a muscle around the eye, almost like a squint from what im told) the problem with it is that the brain throws a fit if you stay 'zoomed in' for any length of time....can anyone say migrane?

 theyre working on a chip that stores information a soldier sees too. as of now, test subjects can 'store' what they see onto the chip, but we have no way of the soldier accessing the data without pluging in into a computer...ie, its useless.

ive heard about that plastic stuff too. interesting stuff....