Jeteye1:Yeah yeah yeah all right you win. No hard feelings? Anyways let me quickly comment before the bell rings in my Computer Graphics class.
No hard feelings.
Yay!
Jeteye1: As for Jenkins, the Infection Form that attacked and mutated him was elderly and could not effectively transform him. That’s the only reason, at least I think so. But in some instances you can hear the "Flood" talking in Halo 3 but that might just be the Infection Form utilizing the vocal cords of the former host. (Eg. "Find him!" )
Well, Keyes is also kept alive for as long as possible by the Flood. Also, the crazy Marine in Halo 3 says that the Flood (his comrades) started talking, but it didn't sound like he meant stuff like "find him."
Ah, but you’ll see all the bodies around him are uninfected which leads me to believe that he went insane and killed the other Marines with him. Or Bungie could have just not counted on people like me going crazily in-depth with the slightest details. Who know…
Jeteye1: That sounds cool about making walls wherever you want though. RTS Turtle players will be rejoicing.
Well, not quite anywhere. You can only construct Calcium Build-ups on Biomass, but you can build Secondary Intelligences anywhere, and those create Biomass around them.
Ok, got it.
america1: Rot I have been reading your posts for a while and I just decided to get an account on here so I can give you some ideas, one of my good ones for the flood is that, the bodies on the map won't stay there you all know, so for the flood to get bodies would be hard, but if the flood had a "barracks". it wouldn't create troops so much as it would use a bunch of stored up bodies that are automatically put in the building so that the flood, like other factions could be able to get troops to. they would, when they come out, just be a mixture of covenant elites with plasma rifles and marines with assault rifles in one squad but it would be randomly picked to that they have a large storage of both. the bodies would just be an unlimited amount of bodies just like the other factions have unlimited amounts to so that it would make it a lot more equal to all sides. tell me what you think.
While I'm not so keen on the direct idea, I like the concept, to some extent. We know that in the Halo Graphic Novel, the Flood are gathering bodies. So, perhaps Combat Forms, Stalker Forms, Tank Forms, and Juggernauts should be able to drag bodies back to their base, where they can be infected or used for Calcium. Doing so would drastically increase rot time (though I think it will be increased to begin with, since the unit rot in the demo was extremely short).
I have to say that his (America1) idea isn’t very good. No offense or anything it’s just kind of odd. The main part of being the Flood is going out and killing so you can get more combat forms. Your idea makes them more like a traditional RTS faction, which we are trying to steer away from.
zaki90: here is something else that one could argue,
considering carrier forms were made out of grunts and not when combat forms are to old or damaged, ( which can make perfect sense)
I'm listening.
Me too.
zaki90: 1. nothing in the terminals talked about giant bulbous sacs ( carrier forms)
The terminals aren't exactly highly specific about this sort of thing, so the exclusion of Carrier Forms is completely understandable.
Yeah, have to agree with Rot on this one. Other than telling of the Floods devastation and the futile attempts to destroy them, it doesn’t go into depth about the Flood themselves in a physical sense.
zaki90: 2. Nothing on Halopedia says that carrier forms were in the war between flood and the Forerunners
That's because we hardly know that sort of detail about the Flood Forerunner War.
Right.
zaki90: 3. the flood on threshold gas mine could have been turned into carrier forms when exposed to the gases on it
Technically, the Carrier Forms, like all the other Flood forms, probably got there from Installation 04.
What!? No! The Heretics released the Flood from their containment cells to stop the Arbiter. They were already on the platform for study. The Installation 04 Flood never left that Installation, they tried but they were destroyed.
zaki90: 4. in halo 3 you never see human turn into a flood, (considering Humans have Forerunner DNA)
I think you mean never see a human turn into a Carrier Form (though I don't know if Humans have Forerunner DNA; we are simply those selected to inherit what they left behind). However, this doesn't matter. A more valid point would have been we don't see any Combat Forms turn into Carrier Forms. But that is likely because Combat Forms are rarely damaged but not killed, and when they are, we often leave them, so we don't know what happens. Further, there is almost never a human, Elite, or Brute that is physically damaged enough to become a Carrier Form.
After the first Flood encounter in “Floodgate” you personally see a Human turned into a Combat Form.