Contradictions with the Storyline

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  •  09-27-2006, 5:42 PM 1260

    Contradictions with the Storyline

    Having read both of the Halo books, there are serious conflictions with the storyline. People said that the armor in Halo 2 was the original armor and that John Spartan was stuck with the prototype in the meantime, but this is totally false. The chief was equiped with the lateast equipment, being the MJOLNR armor that he wears in Halo 1. The only difference between the one in the books and the one in the game is that the shield wasn't nearly as developed, and so was pretty week.

     

    The assault rifle is exclive to the Halo 2 universe. Never did in the books say anythihng about an Assault Rifle of Halo 2's design, but instead, referred to the "Battle Rifle", being the gun used in Halo 1. Now Cortanna is introduced in the books, making it logical that she is with him in this game, so don't get confused about that.

     

    Now, more detail about the armor. The original suit wasn't even nearly as detailed as the original version in Halo 1. I'm pretty sure it was a designers desicion to advance the armor even more than from Halo 2, seeing that the general demand for cooler and cooler things is always higher than the previous day. That might explain why the armor is cooler than from Halo 2, but it doesn't fit the storyline. Halo Wars is going in the wrong direction, and will probably be critisized by a lot of hardcore fans and normal fans alike.

     

    Another big problem is the game being exclusive towards XBox360. An RTS is not meant for console games, which why about 99% of them are for P.C. I suggest making Halo Wars for PC a real option, but then who am I, I've only worked on a few games and run an online gaming community.

     

    The idea is awsome. It literally gives me goosebumps, but you need to express some real serious details that will just make the creators of Halo Wars look like idiots.

     

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  •  09-27-2006, 5:45 PM 1277 in reply to 1260

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    serious topic bump
  •  09-27-2006, 5:49 PM 1300 in reply to 1260

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    Ok, I think its pretty clear that it isnt going to be a "traditional" RTS game, I think that it will be a combat, controlling Units without haveing to build bases...

    its exlusive for the 360 because they dont want to have to deal with there being development for a Control sceme... and that there is no good RTS for 360...

    ever hear "Dare to be Different"?

     I think that the forums about the armor are clear... The armor the spartans are wearing are simply the first Combat version without shields... seeing as the original armor did not have shields... The Battle Rifle - Assault rifle thing is that simply they both live in the same universe, yet have yet to interact...

     and what do you mean Halo 2 universe, this is all set in one universe... the games are just showing different stories

     Sorry if I seem abit, rude... but I think I answered the questions in MY oppinion

  •  09-27-2006, 5:50 PM 1306 in reply to 1277

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    Now now, no need to bump your topic >.>

    Though I can honestly say, I agree with you. It would be better to not contradict the storyline, and you are right on most of your points... Though the Battle Rifle actually has a right to be there.

    The Assault Rifle of Halo CE ( as well as the all powerful pistol ) were given to the crew of the Pillar of Autumn to aid them in their special mission to attempt to capture a Prophet. Which is why the pistol was ever so powerful. Though the Battle Rifle on the other hand was always the standard issue, UNSC Ground Forces gun. Just not for the crew of the PoA.

  •  09-27-2006, 5:53 PM 1324 in reply to 1306

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    Reconcilation:

    Now now, no need to bump your topic >.>

    Though I can honestly say, I agree with you. It would be better to not contradict the storyline, and you are right on most of your points... Though the Battle Rifle actually has a right to be there.

    The Assault Rifle of Halo CE ( as well as the all powerful pistol ) were given to the crew of the Pillar of Autumn to aid them in their special mission to attempt to capture a Prophet. Which is why the pistol was ever so powerful. Though the Battle Rifle on the other hand was always the standard issue, UNSC Ground Forces gun. Just not for the crew of the PoA.

     

    Agreed on that, it even states in the first book that the spartans use Battle Rifles. Probably not the same as you see in Halo 2, but that's what progress is for. Just because they look similar doesn't mean they are similar. 

  •  09-27-2006, 5:54 PM 1330 in reply to 1306

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    Reconcilation:

    The Assault Rifle of Halo CE ( as well as the all powerful pistol ) were given to the crew of the Pillar of Autumn to aid them in their special mission to attempt to capture a Prophet.

     

    Is that why? fer reals? Cause if it's proven somewhere you just might be my new Jesus. 

  •  09-27-2006, 5:56 PM 1339 in reply to 1277

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    The fact your own message has its fair share of contradictions is enough for me to stop reading it. I think the exclusive 360 is an excellent idea, his name isn't "John Spartan" the "SPARTAN" project is a UNSC planned expierement to test 150 young (9 years old) children and rule out around half (winds up 70) in order to create a squad worthy of fighting future powerful enemies. Which, as fate has it, are the Covenant. His Name is John and only John. You never hear of his last name nor of his family. John is Spartan #117 of 150. Spartan 117 is a Master Chief Petty Officer  and leader of all the other Spartans, hence, Master Chief.

     

  •  09-27-2006, 5:58 PM 1346 in reply to 1330

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    Its in the books that that was there mission; I think that makes sense, as the first halo weapons were generally better
  •  09-27-2006, 5:59 PM 1352 in reply to 1330

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    I've never played CE. I'm trying to get my hands on it but I can't find it for sale anywhere -_-

    I never remember finding the Battle Rifle in the books so I'm going off of that. But are you suggesting that the armor is better looking because of the shields being absent? You are sadly mistaken. There's no logical reason why the armor should look 1/5 as advanced just because it had a shield. The shield couldn't have defected the armor that greatly.

     

    I personally think that the creaters of Halo wars is just screwing around and making a cool game, with no regards to the storyline, and just saying "hey this is before Halo 1"
     

  •  09-27-2006, 6:01 PM 1358 in reply to 1352

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    better graphics = better looking armor

     if a remake of halo 1 ever happened im sure his armor would look alot nicer

  •  09-27-2006, 6:03 PM 1363 in reply to 1352

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    Guys, there isn't one All standard assault rifle.. there are varients, notice how they BOTH have rear-loading Clips, notice how they BOTH share the same size.perportion Characteristics... they are just different Varients

  •  09-27-2006, 6:06 PM 1372 in reply to 1352

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    The game itself already show's that it will not follow the storyline of the books, which is fine.  By the way, the battle rifles were created in between Halo 1 and Halo 2. 
  •  09-27-2006, 6:28 PM 1503 in reply to 1260

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    I consider myself to be a full fledged Halo fan with substantial knowledge of the subject. That being said, it's true that the Spartans went through a few armor changes, and they had no shields at all to start out with. That's true even while they were doing missions... Spartan 034 died in the early suit form, without the shields. Furthermore, I've personally always imagined that their original armor was the bulkiest, as it shows in the Halo Wars trailer. Since they didn't have shields yet, they'd need as much physical protection as possible. When they were able to get shields, they could slim down on the metal, allowing for more mobility while still providing tons of protection. I know the books say the suits enhance their mobility, one way or another.

     As far as the game being an RTS, that's probably my biggest disappointment, mainly because when I first heard about it, IGN had it labeled as an MMO FPS. Don't get me wrong, one of my absolute favorite games is StarCraft and I love RTSs, but I'm skeptical about it being on consoles even if they are building it specifically for the 360.

     Also, I've seen people complain about the Elites being too big... doesn't it say in the books that they're around 8 feet? I know they're definitely not supposed to be small.

  •  09-27-2006, 6:42 PM 1573 in reply to 1300

    Re: Contradictions with the Storyline

    Zues120:

    Ok, I think its pretty clear that it isnt going to be a "traditional" RTS game, I think that it will be a combat, controlling Units without haveing to build bases...

    its exlusive for the 360 because they dont want to have to deal with there being development for a Control sceme... and that there is no good RTS for 360...

    Ever heard of LOTR: BFM2?

    Didn't think so.

  •  09-27-2006, 6:45 PM 1580 in reply to 1573

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    Like I said, there are no good RTS games for the 360
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