cpkbobicus:

I have posted since the beginning of this topic, that there are some important stats still missing:

Leaders: Everyone wants to know just how much veterancy they need to make thier leader starred out.

Neutrals: Going in line with the leaders, how much veterancy do each neutral mob and building give (sentinel, flood, rebels)?

Spartans: What effect do they have on a vehicle?  What are the multipliers for damage and defense for Stars 4-14?

Bases:  How much life and bounty on each building, ESPECIALLY TURRETS

OMFG HELP

spartans adds 15% for each upgrade star and the vet stars of both the spartan and the sparvehicle is seperate but both increase the vehicle acourdingly to the corresponding amount.

a spargrizzlie with 14 stars will have almost 600% the hp of a normal grizzly

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You guys need to rethink the gremlin nerf. I'll post a paragraph tomorrow with details.

 

The gremlin is OP, but without it, Anders would be UP. There needs to be a more balanced nerf, that or buff Cutter/Forge.

 

EDIT:  sorry, meant to post this in the balance thread.

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Thanks for posting this! I learned a few things from just being able to check out the numbers :-p

 

I think there are a few typos though:

Chopper ram damage =Warthog ram? 

Jackle HP = Hunter HP?

11807*1.25*1.25*1.25 = 28809? Referring to the upgrades from a T2 Tank to T4 Grizzlies

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The Fuhrer:

cpkbobicus:

I have posted since the beginning of this topic, that there are some important stats still missing:

Leaders: Everyone wants to know just how much veterancy they need to make thier leader starred out.

Neutrals: Going in line with the leaders, how much veterancy do each neutral mob and building give (sentinel, flood, rebels)?

Spartans: What effect do they have on a vehicle?  What are the multipliers for damage and defense for Stars 4-14?

Bases:  How much life and bounty on each building, ESPECIALLY TURRETS

OMFG HELP

spartans adds 15% for each upgrade star and the vet stars of both the spartan and the sparvehicle is seperate but both increase the vehicle acourdingly to the corresponding amount.

a spargrizzlie with 14 stars will have almost 600% the hp of a normal grizzly

Where are you finding these numbers? 15%? I don't see that anywhere.  And also, Stars do not increase HP, they reduce damage.

Also, there is no proof about the trend of the multipliers as Stars go past 3.  It could be along the same rate it starts with, but it could also decay, or the multipliers will start to slow.

 

cpkbobicus:

The Fuhrer:

cpkbobicus:

I have posted since the beginning of this topic, that there are some important stats still missing:

Leaders: Everyone wants to know just how much veterancy they need to make thier leader starred out.

Neutrals: Going in line with the leaders, how much veterancy do each neutral mob and building give (sentinel, flood, rebels)?

Spartans: What effect do they have on a vehicle?  What are the multipliers for damage and defense for Stars 4-14?

Bases:  How much life and bounty on each building, ESPECIALLY TURRETS

OMFG HELP

spartans adds 15% for each upgrade star and the vet stars of both the spartan and the sparvehicle is seperate but both increase the vehicle acourdingly to the corresponding amount.

a spargrizzlie with 14 stars will have almost 600% the hp of a normal grizzly

Where are you finding these numbers? 15%? I don't see that anywhere.  And also, Stars do not increase HP, they reduce damage.

these numbers are not in the excel but previously stated by timotron and tested by players. increase damage resistance would have the same effect as increase in hp durrin combat.

a 14 star s

grizzlie has 3 tank upgrades plus the oringinal tech of the tank=4 stars

spatan upgrade is 3 plus spatan original tech = 4 stars

3 vet stars for both the tank and the spartan puts the total at 14 stars. the vet stars for each unit is compounded seperately and the upgrade stars are seperate from the vet stars.

 

orcle:

cpkbobicus:

The Fuhrer:

cpkbobicus:

I have posted since the beginning of this topic, that there are some important stats still missing:

Leaders: Everyone wants to know just how much veterancy they need to make thier leader starred out.

Neutrals: Going in line with the leaders, how much veterancy do each neutral mob and building give (sentinel, flood, rebels)?

Spartans: What effect do they have on a vehicle?  What are the multipliers for damage and defense for Stars 4-14?

Bases:  How much life and bounty on each building, ESPECIALLY TURRETS

OMFG HELP

spartans adds 15% for each upgrade star and the vet stars of both the spartan and the sparvehicle is seperate but both increase the vehicle acourdingly to the corresponding amount.

a spargrizzlie with 14 stars will have almost 600% the hp of a normal grizzly

Where are you finding these numbers? 15%? I don't see that anywhere.  And also, Stars do not increase HP, they reduce damage.

these numbers are not in the excel but previously stated by timotron and tested by players. increase damage resistance would have the same effect as increase in hp durrin combat.

a 14 star s

grizzlie has 3 tank upgrades plus the oringinal tech of the tank=4 stars

spatan upgrade is 3 plus spatan original tech = 4 stars

3 vet stars for both the tank and the spartan puts the total at 14 stars. the vet stars for each unit is compounded seperately and the upgrade stars are seperate from the vet stars.

 

and the veterancy stars give 1st 15%, 2nd 25%, 3rd 60% then again for the spartans veterancy another 15% etc etc

 

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The Fuhrer:

spartans adds 15% for each upgrade star and the vet stars of both the spartan and the sparvehicle is seperate but both increase the vehicle acourdingly to the corresponding amount.a spargrizzlie with 14 stars will have almost 600% the hp of a normal grizzly

 

Are you sure that it is 600% a normal grizzly, or a normal scropion?

Doesnt the grizzly already have 4 stars technically?

Can you please show me some sample math on how you go that?

cpkbobicus:

The Fuhrer:

spartans adds 15% for each upgrade star and the vet stars of both the spartan and the sparvehicle is seperate but both increase the vehicle acourdingly to the corresponding amount.a spargrizzlie with 14 stars will have almost 600% the hp of a normal grizzly

 

Are you sure that it is 600% a normal grizzly, or a normal scropion?

Doesnt the grizzly already have 4 stars technically?

Can you please show me some sample math on how you go that?

6x grizzlie as in, it will 1v6 grizzlies.

it will have 6x damage output and 6x the ability to take damage.

thats why 14 stared units are such gods. 3 14 star grizzlies can take on a full army of hunters and win

pulling up an old thread of mine when I trolled the forums much much more often

 

http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/650999.aspx

 

it gives you solid #s instead of mathematics to make things easier to understand :p

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I just saw your unit analysis on the excel and I have some question:

1st - I didn't understand if, for example, the jackels have 2439 HP (without upgrade) and 42 DPS (alot of hp for 2 jackels per squad and im a little confused cuz the hunters have the same hp, with a little more DPS and they have 2 units per squad either...and the multiplier for the jackels on the hunters is 300% damage unlike the hunters that do 80% damage to jackel since they are infantry) my question is simple, the attack and hp (of all squads) is multiplied by the number of unites per squad? (i mean if you wrote 2439 hp for jackel squad it would be 4868 and 42 DPS is 84 DPS cuz there are two jackels in the squad?)

2nd - what is "Infantry in Cover"?

3rd - thanks in advance......

...Idiot.

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and why is that...I'm asking some question and nicly and you calling me idiot...as you like..so be it

This thread is 10 months old.

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apart from there being no mods and posting in a fairly old thread you ask a pretty stupid question

infantry in cover clearly means the infantry in vehicles, when are infantry ever in anything else? your marines riding in your warthogs for instance, they get a health boost for behind the protective cover of a warthog and they still get to throw grenades with the proper upgrade, this also counts for spartans in a vehicle 

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