Pulling together the top leader lists.

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  •  11-23-2009, 6:44 PM 776035 in reply to 776033

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    Klunk:
    crusaderking:

    Klunk:plus he played like 500+ games rather than stopping at about 100 and then making a new account

    To be fair, he had 4 accounts total though, but true, also he didnt even scout me most games, so I was able to switch it up a lot...

    Forge HAS to make tanks lol, no need to scout :P

    thats mostly true. tanks are the only good unit to go as forge.
  •  11-23-2009, 9:20 PM 776126 in reply to 776035

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    What's up?


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  •  11-23-2009, 9:27 PM 776128 in reply to 776126

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    Cheesypoof999:

    What's up?

    im up
  •  11-23-2009, 9:55 PM 776148 in reply to 776128

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    orcle:
    Cheesypoof999:

    What's up?

    im up

    Arousing


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  •  11-23-2009, 10:00 PM 776154 in reply to 776148

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    Cheesypoof999:
    orcle:
    Cheesypoof999:

    What's up?

    im up

    Arousing

    your op
  •  11-23-2009, 10:18 PM 776166 in reply to 776035

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    orcle:
    Klunk:
    crusaderking:

    Klunk:plus he played like 500+ games rather than stopping at about 100 and then making a new account

    To be fair, he had 4 accounts total though, but true, also he didnt even scout me most games, so I was able to switch it up a lot...

    Forge HAS to make tanks lol, no need to scout :P

    thats mostly true. tanks are the only good unit to go as forge.

    I have beaten atleast 6 Anders at 44 Trueskill without build a single tank in those games. why build tanks vs gremlins? why is this stressed?


    Forge FTW.
    3 accounts in the top 50 1v1 standard.
    Good 1v1 standard non-asian Forge player
    45 TS For 1v1

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  •  11-23-2009, 10:20 PM 776167 in reply to 776166

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    crusaderking:
    orcle:
    Klunk:
    crusaderking:

    Klunk:plus he played like 500+ games rather than stopping at about 100 and then making a new account

    To be fair, he had 4 accounts total though, but true, also he didnt even scout me most games, so I was able to switch it up a lot...

    Forge HAS to make tanks lol, no need to scout :P

    thats mostly true. tanks are the only good unit to go as forge.

    I have beaten atleast 6 Anders at 44 Trueskill without build a single tank in those games. why build tanks vs gremlins? why is this stressed?

    maybe they count cobras as tanks? 


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  •  11-23-2009, 10:28 PM 776171 in reply to 776167

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    Ronin 3000:
    crusaderking:
    orcle:
    Klunk:
    crusaderking:

    Klunk:plus he played like 500+ games rather than stopping at about 100 and then making a new account

    To be fair, he had 4 accounts total though, but true, also he didnt even scout me most games, so I was able to switch it up a lot...

    Forge HAS to make tanks lol, no need to scout :P

    thats mostly true. tanks are the only good unit to go as forge.

    I have beaten atleast 6 Anders at 44 Trueskill without build a single tank in those games. why build tanks vs gremlins? why is this stressed?

    maybe they count cobras as tanks? 

    I guess...I guess

    I faced a 42 TS AND 44 TS Anders today and won both making 3 tanks total and thats because AKA loterlizard tricked me but still lost so its all good.

    Also, I just did some flamers+marines against a 44 TS arby and it worked perfectly, I feel bad beating arby, easiest leader to beat in my opinion using forge, just needs marines...


    Forge FTW.
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    Good 1v1 standard non-asian Forge player
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  •  11-23-2009, 10:41 PM 776177 in reply to 776166

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    crusaderking:
    orcle:
    Klunk:
    crusaderking:

    Klunk:plus he played like 500+ games rather than stopping at about 100 and then making a new account

    To be fair, he had 4 accounts total though, but true, also he didnt even scout me most games, so I was able to switch it up a lot...

    Forge HAS to make tanks lol, no need to scout :P

    thats mostly true. tanks are the only good unit to go as forge.

    I have beaten atleast 6 Anders at 44 Trueskill without build a single tank in those games. why build tanks vs gremlins? why is this stressed?

    verse anyone else forge will go tanks, its only 1/6 leaders that makes forge not go tanks =/
  •  11-23-2009, 10:44 PM 776178 in reply to 776177

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    orcle:
    crusaderking:
    orcle:
    Klunk:
    crusaderking:

    Klunk:plus he played like 500+ games rather than stopping at about 100 and then making a new account

    To be fair, he had 4 accounts total though, but true, also he didnt even scout me most games, so I was able to switch it up a lot...

    Forge HAS to make tanks lol, no need to scout :P

    thats mostly true. tanks are the only good unit to go as forge.

    I have beaten atleast 6 Anders at 44 Trueskill without build a single tank in those games. why build tanks vs gremlins? why is this stressed?

    verse anyone else forge will go tanks, its only 1/6 leaders that makes forge not go tanks =/

    I dont use tanks vs Arby or Anders really, and there are more Anders players than all the others combined at top level play, I had to avoid them 50% of the time today.


    Forge FTW.
    3 accounts in the top 50 1v1 standard.
    Good 1v1 standard non-asian Forge player
    45 TS For 1v1

    URL of the week:
    http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/



  •  11-23-2009, 11:06 PM 776187 in reply to 776178

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    crusaderking:

    I dont use tanks vs Arby or Anders really, and there are more Anders players than all the others combined at top level play, I had to avoid them 50% of the time today.

    I view Spartanks as mandatory against Covenant, because they are the only unit that can stand up to Covie Leaders, and outright kill them, without taking losses, and once they get Canister, can truly brutalize them.  Using Flamers or Hogs, even when you win, the Covie Leader can bleed your forces away, its as the Leader and his powers are cheaper than the units it trashes.

    I also see Spartanks as mandatory against anyone using Hogs in significant numbers either, they are the only thing that can really handle them, save Cobras, which show up a bit too late.

    If I'm playing against USNC and its clear they are building stuff other than Hogs, I might go pure Infantry instead.

  •  11-23-2009, 11:15 PM 776193 in reply to 776187

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    wodan460:
    crusaderking:

    I dont use tanks vs Arby or Anders really, and there are more Anders players than all the others combined at top level play, I had to avoid them 50% of the time today.

    I view Spartanks as mandatory against Covenant, because they are the only unit that can stand up to Covie Leaders, and outright kill them, without taking losses, and once they get Canister, can truly brutalize them.  Using Flamers or Hogs, even when you win, the Covie Leader can bleed your forces away, its as the Leader and his powers are cheaper than the units it trashes.

    I also see Spartanks as mandatory against anyone using Hogs in significant numbers either, they are the only thing that can really handle them, save Cobras, which show up a bit too late.

    If I'm playing against USNC and its clear they are building stuff other than Hogs, I might go pure Infantry instead.

    I faced an Anders player who used a lot of hogs today and I went cobras+few wolvs against his gremlins+hogs, it was easy though.
    spartanks are good against covy, I played the best brute cheiften(or top 3) a couple nights ago and spartanks won me the game, he was beadtly tough too, he has 45 TS, But vs Arby, marines+flamers seem to just do the job very well because they cost more to rage than replace and with Forges eco.=I win.


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    3 accounts in the top 50 1v1 standard.
    Good 1v1 standard non-asian Forge player
    45 TS For 1v1

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  •  11-23-2009, 11:21 PM 776196 in reply to 776193

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    crusaderking:

    I faced an Anders player who used a lot of hogs today and I went cobras+few wolvs against his gremlins+hogs,

    Well, if you can get Cobras out, its good.  Generally I only go for them early on Gulch, which has a reactor hook, but no easy expansions to boom with like Pirth.

    crusaderking:

    But vs Arby, marines+flamers seem to just do the job very well because they cost more to rage than replace and with Forges eco.=I win.

    Do you have to upgrade the Marines/Flamers to make them tough enough?

    Can someone come up with a table of cost efficiency of Arby Power vs. Infantry, based on Arby Power level and Infantry level?


  •  11-23-2009, 11:26 PM 776198 in reply to 776196

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    wodan460:
    crusaderking:

    I faced an Anders player who used a lot of hogs today and I went cobras+few wolvs against his gremlins+hogs,

    Well, if you can get Cobras out, its good.  Generally I only go for them early on Gulch, which has a reactor hook, but no easy expansions to boom with like Pirth.

    crusaderking:

    But vs Arby, marines+flamers seem to just do the job very well because they cost more to rage than replace and with Forges eco.=I win.

    Do you have to upgrade the Marines/Flamers to make them tough enough?

    Can someone come up with a table of cost efficiency of Arby Power vs. Infantry, based on Arby Power level and Infantry level?


    No Anders can stop Forge from getting cobras, and I guarentee that method will almost never fail you, as long as you tweak it every match, which is why TS 44 Anders can be beaten, a lot.


    Forge FTW.
    3 accounts in the top 50 1v1 standard.
    Good 1v1 standard non-asian Forge player
    45 TS For 1v1

    URL of the week:
    http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/



  •  11-23-2009, 11:30 PM 776199 in reply to 776198

    Re: Pulling together the top leader lists.

    crusaderking:

    No Anders can stop Forge from getting cobras, and I guarentee that method will almost never fail you, as long as you tweak it every match, which is why TS 44 Anders can be beaten, a lot.

    Going Spartanks is still simpler, ever since the heavy vehicle nerf to Gauss, it isn't even a threat to them anymore, and anything less doesn't even scratch their paint. Once I hit T3, I'd rather go Wolverines to deal with my opponent switching to Hornets even though its blatantly obvious.  Or Medic Marines if they go Cobras.

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