xAndy51x: Felix: Fyrhawk: Compared to everything that's been seen for the UNSC in each game(not HW), the U.S. alone would win, as long as everything equals out(from men and armor on the field).
Abrams(smaller target, heavier armor and main gun, can have two top turrets(50 cal. to a smaller version of a M-134)> Scorpion(smaller gun, larger target, one crew, 4 jump seats)
F-22>longsword(too large) and shortsword(too large), pelican, hornet...
Spartan's would easily die from an Abrams "pellet" shot.
AH-64D would own all ground vehicles. Same for the MLRS system. Pelican's would be swatted out of the sky by SAM's...
Now, the UNSC would win if we knew of every single vehicle and weapon in their arsenal.(EVERYTHING, we only know of about seven vehicles.), unless those too are like the current.
Against the whole world...the UNSC would be doomed...With combined assaults from Abrams, T-72s/80s, Leopard 2s, Merkavas, and every other modern tank out there...The only place that I know the UNSC could successfully land would be in France...(:P)....
Why do people always asked this? From our current knowledge, modern technology is hard enough for the current weapons of the UNSC...and there's never going to be a conclusion...unless it really happens....
AIs, Archer strikes, numbers. the list goes on and on. UNSC will win.
you are completly right, the unsc would decimate
edit: and twiggy is even more right
my question is...how can AI's even do something, when they must be taken to a hard-drive(any place that they can enter) to do anything? A marine can't just walk up to an Abram and place the AI inside, it would be too difficult.
And, I said that with even numbers, the U.S. alone would win(against what we've seen in the games, not HW). Men on the field must equal, vehicles and armor on the field must equal, aircraft amounts must equal. With that, orbital ships would have to be removed, the closest thing to them is a NASA shuttle which isn't a wartime vessel. So it's all surface warfare...
Numbers mean nothing when it's set like that. Because they equal out.
Without ships, but with the entire population of the US against the UNSC, it would be close. The UNSC would be out teched, only winning with AI's and spartans. Warthog's would be no use to Strykers(sp), the armor of tanks for the US can stop AT rockets. Pelican's can't stand airstrikes. Air suppirority wins, the F-22 and F-35 are too small to be effectively fought in the sky, they are too manouverable. Only numbers can save the UNSC...
And like I said before: This is pointless! There will never be a victor in this, we are comparing something from a fictional world to today.
***EDIT***
And from what I've seen above:
How in the world would a warthog assault on an Abram's armored collumn get that close? There would be gunners on top of the tank, each watching the flanks. The warthog's would have to be in a city...and that armored collumn wouldn't just be moving down a single street...there's the Stryker and other Abram's in adjacent streets, not to mention the aircraft over head(if there's any that is)
The weapons, particularly the M4, can shoot just as straight as a battlerifle. Poision rounds of an AK-47/74 can easily immobolize a UNSC marines. ODST would have to be dropped a distance away, otherwise, when they climb out they would be killed, they don't just jump out the instant the hit. They would have to grabbed their weapon and open the hatch, which woud give enough time for anything on the otherside to get ready.
Spartan lasers...they're proto-types... I'm sure that we wouldn't see every UNSC marine carrying one, and if one even did...and airstrike/artillery strike would quickly decimate the area.
And like I said before: This is pointless! There will never be a victor in this, we are comparing something from a fictional world to today.
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