Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

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  •  08-01-2010, 2:52 AM 911184 in reply to 911177

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    Slayer 2277:

    where to start...

    ok. your original post has left a bad taste in my mouth and i feel sick, any ways let me say something related to the convorsation.

    you seem like you woke up with a dieing urge to convince others (and yourself) that the Cheif is dead, when in actuality all you have is a guess. There is no way for you to prove it either. Do you really want to think believe that one of the biggest faces in gaming froze, starved, sufficated, or how ever you think he would die, died alone in space. You seem like the only person that would be satisfied by that :/

    The in-game explanation i have is that in the legendary ending it shown the ship floating toward a planet of uknown origins.

    i dont know where you got this idea that bungie owned the halo IP. Or that Activision owned Bungie and halo, but your wrong. Microsoft owns Halo and 343 is full of old Bungie employees so im sure they are capable of making a game.

    why have you wasted everyones time?

    Okay. You're obviously the kind of person I argue with every day. I get that accusation every day: that I don't know what I'm talking about.

    Nobody can train to get spaced. Nobody can wear a suit that protects them from being completely isolated and floating in space for eternity in zero-gee. You can't train your body to last in vacuum: your muscles will deteriorate due to not being strained under gravity, and if he's in cryo his body processes are slowed. Also, from not being used atrophy (tissue deterioration!) will kick in while he's in cryo-sleep. That's right: if he's in there for a long enough time, it doesn't matter where he is. His body will deteriorate and he will rot. He will starve, because there's nothing to eat out where the Ark exploded - unless he mutates and can grind space-rock with his steel-plate teeth and use that for his nutrients that his body needs. And the books state that freezing someone in cryo-sleep with their clothing/armor on will graft it to their skin and destroy it at the molecular level. But you didn't see Anders strip down and sleep in the tube in the ending cut-scene of Halo Wars, did you? Don't say it was because she wasn't supposed to wake up: leaving her clothes on like that would guarantee she would die rather than just putting her to sleep like that so if she did die she wouldn't know the difference.

    And if you weren't the same kind of brainwashed tool that Microsoft hooks into their bank accounts for a stream of income, you'd notice that the Activision reference was a shot at humor after a completely serious break-down of why the Master Chief will not make it out of there in any way, shape, or form. If 343 *** out a reason, it's going to be something like the reason random crap happens in kid's shows: THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP. Nothing will get you out of being spaced, and if he does somehow survive he'd end up being in the 2552 remake of Castaway and lose his mind. Cortana would have gone rampant, and then the rest of his mess would sink in: he's dead.


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    hangingbaskets:
    off topic,

    but vampires are a great counter to canister tanks
  •  08-01-2010, 3:11 AM 911194 in reply to 911184

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    xXCrocmonXx:
    Slayer 2277:

    where to start...

    ok. your original post has left a bad taste in my mouth and i feel sick, any ways let me say something related to the convorsation.

    you seem like you woke up with a dieing urge to convince others (and yourself) that the Cheif is dead, when in actuality all you have is a guess. There is no way for you to prove it either. Do you really want to think believe that one of the biggest faces in gaming froze, starved, sufficated, or how ever you think he would die, died alone in space. You seem like the only person that would be satisfied by that :/

    The in-game explanation i have is that in the legendary ending it shown the ship floating toward a planet of uknown origins.

    i dont know where you got this idea that bungie owned the halo IP. Or that Activision owned Bungie and halo, but your wrong. Microsoft owns Halo and 343 is full of old Bungie employees so im sure they are capable of making a game.

    why have you wasted everyones time?

    Okay. You're obviously the kind of person I argue with every day. I get that accusation every day: that I don't know what I'm talking about.

    Nobody can train to get spaced. Nobody can wear a suit that protects them from being completely isolated and floating in space for eternity in zero-gee. You can't train your body to last in vacuum: your muscles will deteriorate due to not being strained under gravity, and if he's in cryo his body processes are slowed. Also, from not being used atrophy (tissue deterioration!) will kick in while he's in cryo-sleep. That's right: if he's in there for a long enough time, it doesn't matter where he is. His body will deteriorate and he will rot. He will starve, because there's nothing to eat out where the Ark exploded - unless he mutates and can grind space-rock with his steel-plate teeth and use that for his nutrients that his body needs. And the books state that freezing someone in cryo-sleep with their clothing/armor on will graft it to their skin and destroy it at the molecular level. But you didn't see Anders strip down and sleep in the tube in the ending cut-scene of Halo Wars, did you? Don't say it was because she wasn't supposed to wake up: leaving her clothes on like that would guarantee she would die rather than just putting her to sleep like that so if she did die she wouldn't know the difference.

    And if you weren't the same kind of brainwashed tool that Microsoft hooks into their bank accounts for a stream of income, you'd notice that the Activision reference was a shot at humor after a completely serious break-down of why the Master Chief will not make it out of there in any way, shape, or form. If 343 *** out a reason, it's going to be something like the reason random crap happens in kid's shows: THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP. Nothing will get you out of being spaced, and if he does somehow survive he'd end up being in the 2552 remake of Castaway and lose his mind. Cortana would have gone rampant, and then the rest of his mess would sink in: he's dead.

    first off, that hurt.

    second you still seem hellbent on that he is dead. i'm not saying he will see earth again but there is a new story for him. and you keep skipping over the fact that they are heading to a planet in the legendary ending.

    -polite

  •  08-01-2010, 4:03 AM 911222 in reply to 911194

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    Slayer 2277:
    xXCrocmonXx:
    Slayer 2277:

    where to start...

    ok. your original post has left a bad taste in my mouth and i feel sick, any ways let me say something related to the convorsation.

    you seem like you woke up with a dieing urge to convince others (and yourself) that the Cheif is dead, when in actuality all you have is a guess. There is no way for you to prove it either. Do you really want to think believe that one of the biggest faces in gaming froze, starved, sufficated, or how ever you think he would die, died alone in space. You seem like the only person that would be satisfied by that :/

    The in-game explanation i have is that in the legendary ending it shown the ship floating toward a planet of uknown origins.

    i dont know where you got this idea that bungie owned the halo IP. Or that Activision owned Bungie and halo, but your wrong. Microsoft owns Halo and 343 is full of old Bungie employees so im sure they are capable of making a game.

    why have you wasted everyones time?

    Okay. You're obviously the kind of person I argue with every day. I get that accusation every day: that I don't know what I'm talking about.

    Nobody can train to get spaced. Nobody can wear a suit that protects them from being completely isolated and floating in space for eternity in zero-gee. You can't train your body to last in vacuum: your muscles will deteriorate due to not being strained under gravity, and if he's in cryo his body processes are slowed. Also, from not being used atrophy (tissue deterioration!) will kick in while he's in cryo-sleep. That's right: if he's in there for a long enough time, it doesn't matter where he is. His body will deteriorate and he will rot. He will starve, because there's nothing to eat out where the Ark exploded - unless he mutates and can grind space-rock with his steel-plate teeth and use that for his nutrients that his body needs. And the books state that freezing someone in cryo-sleep with their clothing/armor on will graft it to their skin and destroy it at the molecular level. But you didn't see Anders strip down and sleep in the tube in the ending cut-scene of Halo Wars, did you? Don't say it was because she wasn't supposed to wake up: leaving her clothes on like that would guarantee she would die rather than just putting her to sleep like that so if she did die she wouldn't know the difference.

    And if you weren't the same kind of brainwashed tool that Microsoft hooks into their bank accounts for a stream of income, you'd notice that the Activision reference was a shot at humor after a completely serious break-down of why the Master Chief will not make it out of there in any way, shape, or form. If 343 *** out a reason, it's going to be something like the reason random crap happens in kid's shows: THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP. Nothing will get you out of being spaced, and if he does somehow survive he'd end up being in the 2552 remake of Castaway and lose his mind. Cortana would have gone rampant, and then the rest of his mess would sink in: he's dead.

    first off, that hurt.

    second you still seem hellbent on that he is dead. i'm not saying he will see earth again but there is a new story for him. and you keep skipping over the fact that they are heading to a planet in the legendary ending.

    -polite

    I apologize for being impolite.

    Now that's out of the way, I'm not hellbent on that he's dead, I'm hellbent on saying his stories are over. The Forerunner planet seen in the trailer, if Halo: Origins is canon, is a barren rock. The debris from the Ark explosion and the fact it survived two Halo super-weapon firing sequences means that it's stripped of life completely. He'll only have the ninety minutes to live thanks to his suit. If the ship doesn't crash in there by that time after he wakes up (assuming he doesn't die in the crash-landing), by the way a human body works he'll die a slow and asphyxiated death. Sucks to be him, but you can only 'luck' him out of so many situations before his body completely shuts down. And it's looking like being spaced like he was will do it to him.


    Arbiter = <3
    hangingbaskets:
    off topic,

    but vampires are a great counter to canister tanks
  •  08-01-2010, 4:35 AM 911226 in reply to 911104

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    tmspartan:
    jackalo:

    Wait.. I thought you were suggesting that the fore runner planet was fairly far into our galaxy. So you're saying that the fore runner planet is right on the edge? Well considering the Ark was right on the edge as well it's not a large distance to travel.

    The Ark is about 260,000 Light years from galactic center. And the farthest stretching arms are only about 50,000 Light years from galactic center.

    So 210,000 Light years is quite a distance.

     I don't think you understand.. I'm not saying he won't cover that distance given an infinite time... But he won't cover 210,000 light years in less than about 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 x10^999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999,999,999 years.

     

     

     

  •  08-01-2010, 6:00 AM 911234 in reply to 911226

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    jackalo:I don't think you understand.. I'm not saying he won't cover that distance given an infinite time... But he won't cover 210,000 light years in less than about 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 x10^999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999,999,999 years.

    What you are saying is that he's not going to drift home before anyone finds him, which is even more unlikely than him drifting, considering he is 2^18 lightyears from the galactic center since we've all agreed he's outside the galaxy. That is 262,144 lightyears from the center of the galaxy. Subtract about maybe fifty thousand since Earth is probably that close to the center on a good day, and you've still got roughly 200,000 lightyears to go. He's way the Hell out there. So far in fact, that the best telescope would be looking 200,000 years back in time if it looked in that direction from Earth and could zoom in far enough to make out the Ark.


    Arbiter = <3
    hangingbaskets:
    off topic,

    but vampires are a great counter to canister tanks
  •  08-01-2010, 6:27 AM 911237 in reply to 911234

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:I don't think you understand.. I'm not saying he won't cover that distance given an infinite time... But he won't cover 210,000 light years in less than about 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 x10^999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999,999,999 years.

    What you are saying is that he's not going to drift home before anyone finds him, which is even more unlikely than him drifting, considering he is 2^18 lightyears from the galactic center since we've all agreed he's outside the galaxy. That is 262,144 lightyears from the center of the galaxy. Subtract about maybe fifty thousand since Earth is probably that close to the center on a good day, and you've still got roughly 200,000 lightyears to go. He's way the Hell out there. So far in fact, that the best telescope would be looking 200,000 years back in time if it looked in that direction from Earth and could zoom in far enough to make out the Ark.

     

    Wait what? Your agreeing with me that there is no way gravity could of brought him that distance in that time?

     

    I'm confused now. What are you saying?

  •  08-01-2010, 6:39 AM 911239 in reply to 911237

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    jackalo:
    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:I don't think you understand.. I'm not saying he won't cover that distance given an infinite time... But he won't cover 210,000 light years in less than about 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 x10^999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999,999,999 years.

    What you are saying is that he's not going to drift home before anyone finds him, which is even more unlikely than him drifting, considering he is 2^18 lightyears from the galactic center since we've all agreed he's outside the galaxy. That is 262,144 lightyears from the center of the galaxy. Subtract about maybe fifty thousand since Earth is probably that close to the center on a good day, and you've still got roughly 200,000 lightyears to go. He's way the Hell out there. So far in fact, that the best telescope would be looking 200,000 years back in time if it looked in that direction from Earth and could zoom in far enough to make out the Ark.

     

    Wait what? Your agreeing with me that there is no way gravity could of brought him that distance in that time?

     

    I'm confused now. What are you saying?

    I'm explaining exactly how far he is. He is so far away from the center of the galaxy, that it would take 200,000 years before a telescope on Earth would see him, thus making it so he wouldn't come back to Earth/Humanity just by drifting in any amount of time.

    I guess I am agreeing with you on that point at least.


    Arbiter = <3
    hangingbaskets:
    off topic,

    but vampires are a great counter to canister tanks
  •  08-01-2010, 6:46 AM 911243 in reply to 911239

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:
    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:I don't think you understand.. I'm not saying he won't cover that distance given an infinite time... But he won't cover 210,000 light years in less than about 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 x10^999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999,999,999 years.

    What you are saying is that he's not going to drift home before anyone finds him, which is even more unlikely than him drifting, considering he is 2^18 lightyears from the galactic center since we've all agreed he's outside the galaxy. That is 262,144 lightyears from the center of the galaxy. Subtract about maybe fifty thousand since Earth is probably that close to the center on a good day, and you've still got roughly 200,000 lightyears to go. He's way the Hell out there. So far in fact, that the best telescope would be looking 200,000 years back in time if it looked in that direction from Earth and could zoom in far enough to make out the Ark.

     

    Wait what? Your agreeing with me that there is no way gravity could of brought him that distance in that time?

     

    I'm confused now. What are you saying?

    I'm explaining exactly how far he is. He is so far away from the center of the galaxy, that it would take 200,000 years before a telescope on Earth would see him, thus making it so he wouldn't come back to Earth/Humanity just by drifting in any amount of time.

    I guess I am agreeing with you on that point at least.

    So.. What are you disagreeing on with me?

  •  08-01-2010, 7:26 AM 911251 in reply to 911135

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    jackalo:The Ark is in no way needed for the chief to live.
    That.
    Arbiter = <3
    hangingbaskets:
    off topic,

    but vampires are a great counter to canister tanks
  •  08-01-2010, 7:47 AM 911252 in reply to 911251

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:The Ark is in no way needed for the chief to live.
    That.

     

    He doesn't need to get back to Earth. He can survive on his own. And if for some strange reason he really did need to get back to Earth there is so much that 343 could use to get him back.

  •  08-01-2010, 7:50 AM 911254 in reply to 911252

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    jackalo:

    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:The Ark is in no way needed for the chief to live.
    That.

     

    He doesn't need to get back to Earth. He can survive on his own. And if for some strange reason he really did need to get back to Earth there is so much that 343 could use to get him back.

    First he'd have to live the 200,000+ years it'd take for a light-speed transmission from his spot to Earth/Humanity so they could come get it.

    The Ark exploding destabilized the portal forever, so the humans wouldn't be able to open it again. There would be no way to get back to the Ark's location without discovering it the old fashioned way: punching in random coordinates and Slipspace jumping. You'll find it eventually.


    Arbiter = <3
    hangingbaskets:
    off topic,

    but vampires are a great counter to canister tanks
  •  08-01-2010, 7:54 AM 911255 in reply to 911254

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:

    xXCrocmonXx:
    jackalo:The Ark is in no way needed for the chief to live.
    That.

     

    He doesn't need to get back to Earth. He can survive on his own. And if for some strange reason he really did need to get back to Earth there is so much that 343 could use to get him back.

    First he'd have to live the 200,000+ years it'd take for a light-speed transmission from his spot to Earth/Humanity so they could come get it.

    The Ark exploding destabilized the portal forever, so the humans wouldn't be able to open it again. There would be no way to get back to the Ark's location without discovering it the old fashioned way: punching in random coordinates and Slipspace jumping. You'll find it eventually.

    Teleporters, Other advanced aliens, ship hidden on the fore runner world.

  •  08-01-2010, 9:09 AM 911265 in reply to 911255

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    This isn't about MC getting back to earth, it's about him staying alive.  The ship's system is self sustained according to canon (yes, it is not possible in real life), and the cryo tube will bring aging down to near zero.  Besides, why does he need to return to earth?  The UNSC will expand now, and they will eventually find that planet he landed on.
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  •  08-01-2010, 9:15 AM 911268 in reply to 910832

    Re: Master Chief is Dead, Lemme Tell You Why

    xXCrocmonXx:

     

    DFang:To put it shortly, I barely read the topic opening post and just skimmed it thinking that's all I'd need to know because I'm convinced xXCrocmonXx is a retard.

    True lol :)
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  •  08-01-2010, 9:23 AM 911272 in reply to 911184

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    The galactic center is irrelevant because its impossible to go there anyway....


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