UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

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  •  07-20-2007, 11:09 AM 77797 in reply to 77793

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    Supercarriers have been speculated to be more heavily armed than a marathon, due to their rarity

    And there's multiple errors in that that i'd like to correct..

    A Marathon has 3 standard MAC's, Super MAC's are too large for a cruiser

    Archer missle pods can pack from 180 missles on smaller ships to thousands on bigger ones, and ships can pack alot more than 20 pods

    It's called slipspace not hyperspace, hyperspace is from starwars and other sci-fi..

    There's no training area on ships, all training takes place at the ground side bases before the marines even step foot on a combat ready ship, you wouldn't pack up raw recruits on a carrier, send the carrier off to iraq and have the marines train onboard the vessel, it takes 6 months for today's army, most likely it's longer for a UNSC marine because of the nueral implants and more extensive training

    It's ODST's (Orbital Drop Shock Troopers) or Hell Jumpers, not Hell's Airbourne, and the compliment of marines or ODST's depends on the ship's mission, it's captain and it's station, they don't automaticly get a battalion of marines before they make a voyage

    Shortswords are atmospheric bombers, they wouldn't be deployed from ships, they'd be in the planet's garrison or the parts of them would be in the underground storage (which is something already in game)

    The covenant aren't bugs, the only insectoid species that's been documented to be in their collective is the Drone species, and possibly Hunters, everything else is mainly reptilion

     


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  •  07-20-2007, 4:18 PM 77871 in reply to 77797

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    Velo:

    Shortswords are atmospheric bombers, they wouldn't be deployed from ships, they'd be in the planet's garrison or the parts of them would be in the underground storage (which is something already in game)

    shortsword are launched from ships but it would not surprise me for them to have an airfield on the ground for them

    i doubt a colony ship that was modified would be big enough to be a supercarrier or contain 3 superMACs

    so therefore the ship was probably modified to be a carrier or cruiser not a supercarrier

    I would not think it would be  a destroyer because there might not be many units on a destroyer

    btw this ship was probably designed to fight rebels because the game takes place en route to the battle of harvest

    Longswords should be a superpower


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  •  07-20-2007, 4:45 PM 77877 in reply to 77871

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    In FoR they comfirm that there's aircraft fields for atmospheric aircraft, becuase an aircraft base launched a skyhawk to try kill the chief

    And the UNSC weren't in need of extra ships in the UNSC-URF war, it was a propoganda/political war, the URF was making people loose their faith in the UNSC which is why it was ont he virge of collapse, it was the entire point in the spartan II programme, a morale boost, so they wouldn't have gone to such desprate lengths to upgrade a colony ship when it'd have nothing to fight, as the fleet that was sent to harvest was the largest ever assembled how ever, it wouldn't be suprising if they had specialy refitted some civilian ships for military use in that campaign


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  •  07-20-2007, 11:30 PM 78024 in reply to 77877

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    it makes sence that the ship was built afterward since the battle of harvest was six years after first contact

    but the UNSC was having a problem controlling the rebels because there forces were spread so thin so it would also be reasonable that the ship was built for the war against the URF so we can not really know during which war it was built because it is reasonable that the UNSC build a ship at either of those times          the war with the URF was much more than a propaganda war

    also the Spartan II's were not for a moral boost because the people were never told about them until late in the human covanant war


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  •  07-21-2007, 11:34 AM 78106 in reply to 78024

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    One thing I noticed, in the halo wars reviews, it was stated that the orbital bobmbardment was consisted of several MAC rounds, meaning the ship must have multiple MACs on it, so it is probably a carrier, but a marathon could easily carry a task force of that size too.  Also, a colony ship would probably be a fair size considering that it would take a lot of equipment to colonize a planet.  

    Most likely it would be a carrier due to it's classisfication,(CV means carrier)and like stated before F probably means it is a combat ship.  If it is a carrier, then it is probably escorted by a fleet.  If there is a fleet floating above you then you are probably going to be doing some space battling, or at least it is set up for space battling if they can fit it in. 

  •  07-21-2007, 2:56 PM 78128 in reply to 78106

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    i dont think there will be any other ships there besides the Spirit of Fire

    i also dont think they will make it a hybrid ship although it could be because its designation is new

    but now that i think about it Spirit of Fire sounds like the name of a fighter not a carrier 

    i thing they may give it more marines than usual because they want to send out as many as possible to meet the new Covanant threat

    i also doubt there will be space battles although they would be fun

    (it would be cool if they added a galactic conquest mode)


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  •  07-21-2007, 5:50 PM 78165 in reply to 78128

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    Are you mentally retarted?  

      #1:CV means carrier

      #2:A carrier means it's a flagship, and you don't send flagships out into the middle of nowhere with no escort. 

      #3:CV means carrier, so CVF is a sub-class of carrier, most likely made for combat.

      #4:You can't friggen fit a task force on a fighter, you dumb ****.

      #5:You can't fit a MAC gun, actually several MAC guns on a fighter!

    Well, that theory is shot to hell.(I know you were probably joking but I'm mad until I flame) 

  •  07-21-2007, 7:27 PM 78182 in reply to 78165

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    calm down

    i still doubt there will be other ships with it i dont know why maybe it takes place after a battle they lost and the ship jumps randomly

     you would think that we would have seen a CFV before so maybe it was decommisioned

    im going to go through the ship classes on halopedia to see which ones are possible

     Destoyer 2 mac, Pelicans no longswords shortswords marines warthogs scorpians  http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Destroyer

    Frigate 1 mac, enough troops  http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Frigate

    Carrier  ODST, and longsword ?MAC guns  http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Carrier

    Super Carrier  no info given POSSIBLE  http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Supercarrier

    Halcyon  enough troops  1 MAC  http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Marathon-class_Cruiser

    Marathon  1 mac pelicans http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Marathon-class_Cruiser

    Battle Cruisers  one above Sandtrap http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_Battle_Cruiser

    Halo Wars ship http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Phoenix-class_Cruiser-Carrier they call it a cruiser carrier so it probaly is a mix of cruiser and carrier so but Destroyer are only ones with 2 macs but i thought i saw somewhere that there is one with three

    so i dont know which one it is 

     

    are u sure there are 2 mac shots and where did u see this


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  •  07-22-2007, 2:03 AM 78273 in reply to 78182

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    Marathons are suspected to have 3 MAC's of standard (bigger than destroyer) size

    It wouldn't be suprising if there were more than one ship helping, a single ship can't take an entire covenant battle group, unless it's the battle cruiser which is suspected to be huge with one hell of alot of MAC's

    A colony ship has to carry some tens of thousands of people, construction vehicles, tonnes of supplies, atmosphere scrubbers/generators ect, it'd fit to have it used as a military ship for mass ground-side ops, the most it could probably have is 2 MAC's, the rest of the MAC's you see is either it has a firing system similar to the PoA (fires 3 round bursts per charge) or other ships firing too


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  •  07-22-2007, 2:32 AM 78285 in reply to 78273

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    Velo:

    Marathons are suspected to have 3 MAC's of standard (bigger than destroyer) size

    it only said 1 on Halopedia but i think i herd that to

    Velo:

    the rest of the MAC's you see is either it has a firing system similar to the PoA (fires 3 round bursts per charge) or other ships firing too

    the PoA was the first (only?) ship to have that as it is new tecchnology

    Velo:

    It wouldn't be suprising if there were more than one ship helping, a single ship can't take an entire covenant battle group, unless it's the battle cruiser which is suspected to be huge with one hell of alot of MAC's

    I agree i just have a feeling that there will ony be one ship maybe it ran away from losing battle but i could be wrong it does say u controll SPirit of Fire and nothing else it would be fun however to have a space battle with many allies but only one ship under your command and having a special objective

    althought the game does support coop and that would need another ship to be controlled by the second player unless it makes no sence like having 2 MCs maybe u have an AI ally whole game except in Coop like halo 3

    Velo:

    A colony ship has to carry some tens of thousands of people, construction vehicles, tonnes of supplies, atmosphere scrubbers/generators ect, it'd fit to have it used as a military ship for mass ground-side ops, the most it could probably have is 2 MAC's

    yeah that does make sence i was not thinking earlier when i said theyd be small

    Velo:

    battle cruiser which is suspected to be huge with one hell of alot of MAC's

    it probly isnt that ithink they say those were invented at about the 2552/2553 could be wrong


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  •  07-22-2007, 5:03 AM 78297 in reply to 78285

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    The PoA wasn't the first to have that type of MAC, it doesn't say that, it was the first to get the prototype reactor how ever

    It could well be the first ship to get it, but it may not be, the reason no other ships are detailed as being equiped with it is in a battle you don't need to disable a ship, you need to destroy it, which normal MAC's are better at

    I doubt there'll be any space battles because of the need for an extra engine to support it, or a very bland kind of space combat using the ground-side RTS engine


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  •  07-22-2007, 11:49 AM 78314 in reply to 78297

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    alright, im sick of people saying it was during the rebel extermination. the game takes place in the year 2532 thats 7 years after the covenant r discovered. and im pretty sure that considering they did destroy and entire colony, they were considered a very big threat. and also it was probly a really big colony ship.

     


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  •  07-22-2007, 12:11 PM 78318 in reply to 78314

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    hey how do u start a forum? dont post it just send me a private message. i dont want to screw up the thread.
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  •  07-22-2007, 12:43 PM 78325 in reply to 78318

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    wow, harvest was FIRST contact with the covie bastards, heard of the book FoR and Harvest:FIRST contact? so it takes 1 minute after the cole battlegroup to have first contact with the covies not 7 years
  •  07-22-2007, 12:54 PM 78328 in reply to 78325

    Re: UNSC Spirit of Fire (CFV-88)-What type of ship?

    The fleet dispatched to retake harvest got there roughly 1-2 months after, because it took a long time to mobilise the fleet and the ship that sent news back about the covenant took a long time to get back because it was heavily damaged
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