Modern Marvels Halo tech

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  •  01-26-2010, 4:21 PM 808129 in reply to 807946

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

    Feed Nacho Man:
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    The banshee for instance, the propulsion system doesnt exactly make any logical sense at all.  Neither does the phantom, teleportation, energy swords (You can harness energy in a shape like that without a solid mass around it--therefore not making it retractable like the energy sword is), gravity hammers.

    Energy swords= plasma contained by electro-magnetic field. Therefore plausible. If the user wore oven mitts.

    Teleportation is actualy slipstream.  We don't know a lot about the propulsion systems but why say it dosen't make any logical sense at all? I mean, just because we don't know how does it work, dosen't mean it dosen't make any logical sense at all.


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  •  01-27-2010, 11:42 AM 808568 in reply to 808129

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    Maybe they were very small ion engines? That would be plausible, going with the Covies plasma fetish and the speed of an unboosting Banshee.

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  •  01-27-2010, 8:16 PM 808943 in reply to 807988

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  •  01-27-2010, 8:52 PM 808955 in reply to 808943

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

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    Nice to see you again, Mendicant. 

    On topic, we don't have a Gremlin yet, but we're very close! Have any of you heard of Project ZEUS? (no googleing you cheaters!)

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    Lol PROTOTYPE, anyone know when the next one is coming out?


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  •  01-28-2010, 8:48 PM 809424 in reply to 808568

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    Feed Nacho Man:Maybe they were very small ion engines? That would be plausible, going with the Covies plasma fetish and the speed of an unboosting Banshee.

    nope. ion engines dont accelerate very fast, i am 99.9999% sure they cant get something off the ground. it is stated that the banshees use anti-grav pods. pretty much all of the covvie propulsion systems dont make sense. and neither does the energy sword. yes, it is possible to make one, but the energy source would have to be huge. so they have battery tech that we dont understand. not to mention the mini fusion reactors in spartan armor, that dont really make sense either.

  •  02-12-2010, 10:03 PM 815627 in reply to 808568

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    Feed Nacho Man:Maybe they were very small ion engines? That would be plausible, going with the Covies plasma fetish and the speed of an unboosting Banshee.

    That's not very likely since they function in the atmosphere. Ions only remain ions in a vacuum where there aren't any foreign particles to interact with. In the atmosphere, they would just become neutrally charged again...equaling no ability to direct them...equaling no propulsion. Nice thought though.

  •  02-12-2010, 10:05 PM 815628 in reply to 808129

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

    Korther:

    The banshee for instance, the propulsion system doesnt exactly make any logical sense at all.  Neither does the phantom, teleportation, energy swords (You can harness energy in a shape like that without a solid mass around it--therefore not making it retractable like the energy sword is), gravity hammers.

    I agree...at least with the teleportation. The very aspect of teleportation defies the current laws of physics. In order to copy the material, you have to first observe it. Enter Heisenberg's uncertainty principal...
  •  02-12-2010, 11:25 PM 815648 in reply to 815628

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    Jason X35:
    Korther:

    The banshee for instance, the propulsion system doesnt exactly make any logical sense at all.  Neither does the phantom, teleportation, energy swords (You can harness energy in a shape like that without a solid mass around it--therefore not making it retractable like the energy sword is), gravity hammers.

    I agree...at least with the teleportation. The very aspect of teleportation defies the current laws of physics. In order to copy the material, you have to first observe it. Enter Heisenberg's uncertainty principal...

    It isn't teleportation, it's slip space actualy....


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  •  02-13-2010, 7:29 AM 815677 in reply to 815648

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

    erickyboo:
    Jason X35:
    Korther:

    The banshee for instance, the propulsion system doesnt exactly make any logical sense at all.  Neither does the phantom, teleportation, energy swords (You can harness energy in a shape like that without a solid mass around it--therefore not making it retractable like the energy sword is), gravity hammers.

    I agree...at least with the teleportation. The very aspect of teleportation defies the current laws of physics. In order to copy the material, you have to first observe it. Enter Heisenberg's uncertainty principal...

    It isn't teleportation, it's slip space actualy....

    their two different things....slipspace is what they use to accelerate a ship past the speed of lght which if you didnt enter a wormhole of some kind your vessel is larger(as you get to the speed of light it grows in size) and would crash into something on its way(einsteins theory). teleportation is when you dissasamble something atom by atom, move it and then assamble it again somewhere else  which we have a smaller version of this although all they can teleport is a piece of paper across the room 

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  •  02-13-2010, 11:01 AM 815715 in reply to 815677

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

    Protheans:

    their two different things....slipspace is what they use to accelerate a ship past the speed of lght which if you didnt enter a wormhole of some kind your vessel is larger(as you get to the speed of light it grows in size) and would crash into something on its way(einsteins theory). teleportation is when you dissasamble something atom by atom, move it and then assamble it again somewhere else  which we have a smaller version of this although all they can teleport is a piece of paper across the room 

    Point being, to disassemble a person and reassemble them is entirely different from doing to to an inanimate object. It doesn't matter if the electrons of paper are messed up when they get to the other side, but do that with a person, and maybe their heart won't work. Or they have memory loss. Or they just plain die. While physics may change in the future...currently they rule true teleportation impossible. The kind where the starting and ending objects are molecularly the same.

  •  02-13-2010, 11:41 AM 815717 in reply to 815715

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

    Jason X35:

    Protheans:

    their two different things....slipspace is what they use to accelerate a ship past the speed of lght which if you didnt enter a wormhole of some kind your vessel is larger(as you get to the speed of light it grows in size) and would crash into something on its way(einsteins theory). teleportation is when you dissasamble something atom by atom, move it and then assamble it again somewhere else  which we have a smaller version of this although all they can teleport is a piece of paper across the room 

    Point being, to disassemble a person and reassemble them is entirely different from doing to to an inanimate object. It doesn't matter if the electrons of paper are messed up when they get to the other side, but do that with a person, and maybe their heart won't work. Or they have memory loss. Or they just plain die. While physics may change in the future...currently they rule true teleportation impossible. The kind where the starting and ending objects are molecularly the same.

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    Despite its name, the teleportation grid does not actually "teleport" its users; rather, it encases them in a compressed slipstream field, transporting them from one position to another almost instantaneously. This happens much in the same way that a spaceship uses slipspace to travel between star systems - time passes for the individual, but due to the short distances involved it is negligible


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  •  02-13-2010, 12:21 PM 815722 in reply to 815715

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

    Jason X35:

    Protheans:

    their two different things....slipspace is what they use to accelerate a ship past the speed of lght which if you didnt enter a wormhole of some kind your vessel is larger(as you get to the speed of light it grows in size) and would crash into something on its way(einsteins theory). teleportation is when you dissasamble something atom by atom, move it and then assamble it again somewhere else  which we have a smaller version of this although all they can teleport is a piece of paper across the room 

    Point being, to disassemble a person and reassemble them is entirely different from doing to to an inanimate object. It doesn't matter if the electrons of paper are messed up when they get to the other side, but do that with a person, and maybe their heart won't work. Or they have memory loss. Or they just plain die. While physics may change in the future...currently they rule true teleportation impossible. The kind where the starting and ending objects are molecularly the same.

    in theory im pretty sure you could do it. but the amount of data you would need to store is so vast its not practical. even if you were to just take all of the element location data of lets say a rock, and then send that to mars and have them make one. it would require like billions of petabytes of data. theres a good chance it would be cheaper to just send the rock to mars. and theres even more data and more accuracy needed for a person.

    i dont think the uncertainty principal would apply because you would only need to store the location of each molecule/element. subatomic particles wouldnt be important.

  •  02-13-2010, 1:40 PM 815734 in reply to 815722

    Re: Modern Marvels Halo tech

    CtNightrider:
    Jason X35:

    Protheans:

    their two different things....slipspace is what they use to accelerate a ship past the speed of lght which if you didnt enter a wormhole of some kind your vessel is larger(as you get to the speed of light it grows in size) and would crash into something on its way(einsteins theory). teleportation is when you dissasamble something atom by atom, move it and then assamble it again somewhere else  which we have a smaller version of this although all they can teleport is a piece of paper across the room 

    Point being, to disassemble a person and reassemble them is entirely different from doing to to an inanimate object. It doesn't matter if the electrons of paper are messed up when they get to the other side, but do that with a person, and maybe their heart won't work. Or they have memory loss. Or they just plain die. While physics may change in the future...currently they rule true teleportation impossible. The kind where the starting and ending objects are molecularly the same.

    in theory im pretty sure you could do it. but the amount of data you would need to store is so vast its not practical. even if you were to just take all of the element location data of lets say a rock, and then send that to mars and have them make one. it would require like billions of petabytes of data. theres a good chance it would be cheaper to just send the rock to mars. and theres even more data and more accuracy needed for a person.

    i dont think the uncertainty principal would apply because you would only need to store the location of each molecule/element. subatomic particles wouldnt be important.

    That's true when you look at the big picture. But when you start to look at how molecules interact with one another, especially within the human body, then the precise location of each subatomic particle would be important. Mess that up and all of a sudden the hemoglobin in the human body no longer functions the way it should and the human dies. Or perhaps these subatomic uncertainties result in genetic discrepancies in the host...perhaps even cancer years later.

    In short, the subatomic is very important in organic compositions. So sure, we could transport a rock, or a piece of paper, but to do so with a person, we would need to know everything about the person. Like the number of electrons on any atom, or how the atoms are paired. When it comes to the interactions, what energy levels are the electrons in? What spin do they have? Knowing these determines how the atom (or ion) interacts with other particles, and therefore drives the chemical reactions in the human body. So while the vast amount of information would be impractical, actually knowing the information is impossible.

    On a side note, I should mention that I'm uncomfortable with the concept of teleportation. It would require the destruction of the original body, or at least the deconstruction of it. Doe that mean that the person at the other end is just a copy of you? Are you killed every time your particles are copied? When it comes down to it, what about the soul? If it does in fact exist (in some physical sense), can this be copied? To me, there are far too many questions left unanswered before I would ask Scotty to beam me up.

  •  02-13-2010, 5:50 PM 815774 in reply to 815734

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    ^^i agree with you as far as the "what happens to the body" with teleportation. but to play devils advocate i have to say that the the cells that made up your stomach last year are not same that make it up now. for example, red blood cells live about 100 days.

    oh and what does the soul have anything to do with it? why do you assume it exists?

     

  •  02-13-2010, 7:50 PM 815800 in reply to 815774

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    ^^Just saying...not sure if it exists or not. There's no evidence of it. But the point I'm trying to make is a hypothetical one. If you flash clone yourself (such that your clone has the same memories as you), then who are you? Are you the original person, or the new one? Or both? It leads to teleportation. If we did teleport someone, then they could never be the same person. They would just be a flash clone of copied information. Would you be so willing to teleport if your consciousness didn't make the trip to the other side as well?

     As far as cells regenerating, I totally agree with you. My concern would be that something genetic would get messed up, maybe insignificant at first, but then when the cells go to replicate...WHAM. You can no longer digest fiber. Or...WHAM. Meiosis results in too many chromosomes, making the person fertile. It's those little things that would mess up the body. Maybe not in the short-term, granted, but in the long run...let's just say I'd rather fly to Florida.

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