the point is its not new enough to be its own game and calling it Halo 2: ODST would be stupid because it will be released after halo 3, confusing the hell out of people.

Spartan R41:New Mombasa was not where the Ark was. The Ark was 15km East of Voi, which was 185km from New Mombasa. That's a ways away from New Mombasa, actually. Also, in the OXM ODST editions, it says that they had to alter the engine, so it is it's own game.I'll find a direct quote for that when I can.

What if the grand finale ending has something to do with clearing a sector of the Ark? Or maybe have something to do in the barrier tower part. Who knows? 

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Spartan R41:New Mombasa was not where the Ark was. The Ark was 15km East of Voi, which was 185km from New Mombasa. That's a ways away from New Mombasa, actually. Also, in the OXM ODST editions, it says that they had to alter the engine, so it is it's own game.I'll find a direct quote for that when I can.

What if the grand finale ending has something to do with clearing a sector of the Ark? Or maybe have something to do in the barrier tower part. Who knows? 

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Spartan R41:New Mombasa was not where the Ark was. The Ark was 15km East of Voi, which was 185km from New Mombasa. That's a ways away from New Mombasa, actually. Also, in the OXM ODST editions, it says that they had to alter the engine, so it is it's own game.I'll find a direct quote for that when I can.

Actually they say on crow's nest that they started digging in the ruins of new mombassa

Fiery, what town are you in during the level "The Storm?" Voi. There's a sign on the road at the end of "Road to Voi" that has the km to New Mombasa. I know it was over 100 km.

Now, the line was "Truth could've landed anywhere, but he committed all his forces here: East Africa, The ruins of New Mombasa. Then, they started digging." It never says where they were digging, but from using in-game signs, they're not in Mombasa. They're in Voi. 

Even still, the Portal was dug up around November-December of 2552. Unless Halo 3: ODST covers the span of 2-3 months, which I highly doubt, there's no canonical way that it can include the Ark Portal.

CtNightrider:the point is its not new enough to be its own game and calling it Halo 2: ODST would be stupid because it will be released after halo 3, confusing the hell out of people.

Nightrider, ODST has been in production since January 2008. Halo 3 is now 2 years old. Halo 2 was released November 2007, so it was 2 years old when Halo 3 was released. Following? So by your logic, Halo 3 should have been Halo 2: Finish the Fight, because Halo 3 wasn't new enough to be it's own game.

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What if the grand finale ending has something to do with clearing a sector of the Ark? Or maybe have something to do in the barrier tower part. Who knows? 

I would guess that it has something to do with the ONI building, rather than the Ark. Let me throw something out here: Bungie made most - of not all - of New Mombasa. With that big of an area, I seriously doubt they had time to add the Ark Portal.

 

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 Nightrider, ODST has been in production since January 2008. Halo 3 is now 2 years old. Halo 2 was released November 2007, so it was 2 years old when Halo 3 was released. Following? So by your logic, Halo 3 should have been Halo 2: Finish the Fight, because Halo 3 wasn't new enough to be it's own game.

Wait, wait, wait. Halo 2 came out November 9th 2004 not 2007...I assume that was a typo but it kind of destroys your point...

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Even still, a game being 2 years old (Halo 3) doesn't mean the next game is an expansion pack on it. If it were, then we woould be seeing Halo 3: Reach as well- another game that would be built on higher engines but having something to do with before Halo 3.

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Spartan R41:

Well, I'll be. It was 2004. ***, now I feel older.

Even still, a game being 2 years old (Halo 3) doesn't mean the next game is an expansion pack on it. If it were, then we woould be seeing Halo 3: Reach as well- another game that would be built on higher engines but having something to do with before Halo 3.

Actually from what I can remember (which isnt much at this point, love the booze) ODST was slotted to be an expansion on Halo 3, then was bumped up to its own game due to the amount of content.

I could have seen ODST as an expansion (though get rid of the MP garbage and it could be again) for Halo 3, and change its name back to Recon. That certainly is a possability.

Then putting out Halo: Reach could just be a prequel game for every FPS game they made. Halo Wars wouldnt be included as it happend 21 years prior to Reach. It certainly has been done before (hell look at Halo Wars, *shudder*) with success (for the most part). No reason why it cant happen again. 

I'm not denying that ODST started off as an expansion pack, but Bungie's said many, many times "I don't think we realized how big this was going to get," or something of the like, and they've stated that it's its own game. Not only the 8-10 hour campaign, but the updates to graphics, game mechanics, etc (stuff that I've gone over and over.)

I really don't see why they didn't simply change the name to Halo: ODST, dropping the "3" from it. It really has little to nothing to do with Halo 3.

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Spartan R41:

I'm not denying that ODST started off as an expansion pack, but Bungie's said many, many times "I don't think we realized how big this was going to get," or something of the like, and they've stated that it's its own game. Not only the 8-10 hour campaign, but the updates to graphics, game mechanics, etc (stuff that I've gone over and over.)

I really don't see why they didn't simply change the name to Halo: ODST, dropping the "3" from it. It really has little to nothing to do with Halo 3.

I would disagree. It has alot to do with Halo 3, just it deals with parts that were not seen in that particular game. Just bear with me on this one alright Ocean.

After Spartan-117 left for the second ring, the combat on Earth was still unresolved. More importantly during the time that Regret was on Earth he found something that lead him to another ring (possably, though it is possable that the Covenant found it and sent a transmission). This game could quite possably be about figuring out what that something was, could be an artifact or could just be some computer data who knows.

The game might also give some insight into how the Forerunners and Humans are related due to this "object". Perhaps the ODSTs find some secret out that flat out defies the Covenants view on the galaxy and its history. I just dont know.

Either way it can paint a clearer picture for what we see in the events of Halo 3. The base established by Commander Keyes in the begining, as well as how Truth and his fleet came back to Earth and staged their assault.

Its alot of backstory but something people can look forward to.

I should have clarified, I'm sorry. It does have complete relevance to Halo 3, as it came before, but it's been said that it won't reveal any hidden secrets about the Halo Storyline. What I meant was that it doesn't take place during Halo 3 at all. It's a good full 3 months or so before Halo 3, and there's no way the game would last that long (from what I've gathered.)

ODST is played 6 hours after you drop on October 20, 2552. The game is then made up of flashbacks, rather than flashforwards, so there's also know way that you would witness the Portal being uncovered.

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Ok, just wanted to add to the post. All those that said "it means stuff like bubble shields etc" watch the OXM report on inside xbox ... you see one of the ODST's deploying a bubble shield so i dont think it means that.

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Ok, so i watched an interview on youtube with one of the designers of Halo ODST, and he was going through some gameplay and all the differences from the original triology. In this he said "no using covenant equipment".

From watching other gameplay videos i see them using covenant weapons, covenant grenades, a banshee ... so what happened to the no use of equiptment change?

-You can no longer use equipment items. No equipment(Bubble shield, trip mine, flare, etc) whatsoever.

-You can't dual wield either.

-From what I read you can't beat enemies in a wraith to death either. Now you can only destroy them with a nade.

-No BR! The pistol is replacing the BR for the UNSC headshots weapon.

Yeah, big changes to how I'll be playing the game. 

in other words, more like Halo CE! yippee!
oh, and the equipment button (X) was replaced with the VISR mode toggle. and correct, no BR! yippee! i stink on ice with that thing....

Yeah, I noticed this

Halo CE: Combat, weapons, health system, no jacking(but still boarding and destroying) vehicles.

Halo 2: Setting, no equipment

Halo 3: Graphics, enemies, vehicles...too tired to keep remembering these...

Anyways, yeah I broke down the entire series the other day and compared them to ODST, most of the things ODST had were on my "AWESOME FEATURES!!!" list...

 

JACKING has been confirmed in odst, if you watch some of the clips theyve showed that i think in the campaign you can jack banshees

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Fiery, what town are you in during the level "The Storm?" Voi. There's a sign on the road at the end of "Road to Voi" that has the km to New Mombasa. I know it was over 100 km.

Now, the line was "Truth could've landed anywhere, but he committed all his forces here: East Africa, The ruins of New Mombasa. Then, they started digging." It never says where they were digging, but from using in-game signs, they're not in Mombasa. They're in Voi. 

Crow's nest is 16 - 18 km east of voi use an assault rifle and look at the first sign you pass it is roughly 1/2 a km away from the start of crows nest. (also those signs dont change there are three of them and they all say the same thing) New Mombasa is northish of voi if you stand near the gate and look towards the portal that is north, it is also a good 120 + km away easy.

 

So where are you saying it's at? Voi or Monbasa? Halopedia says it's inbetween the two cites, but from in-game play I find it to be closer to Voi than where I imagine Mombasa would be.

Also keep in mind that New Mombasa (you can actually search it on Google Earth) is on a pennensula. The Portal is in the middle of the savanah under Mt. Kilimanjaro's "gaze".

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