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And to whoever said banshees are a better counter, they are not. They have the same weapon as hunter but only shoot 1 fuel rod instead of 2. So even if they didn't have the air weakness, they are still weaker vs hogs.

Which makes sense since scouts soft counter air.

C&P link for any further counter questions.

http://www.halowars.com/news/devblog/archive/2009/04/15/Rock_2C00_-Paper_2C00_-Spartan-and-what-it-means-in-Halo-Wars.aspx

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I think Felix and FJs post spam can counter gauss spam easily what do u guys think?

I FJ I:

The range for hunters is practicly same as guass. Anyone with semi acceptable micro can kill hogs with hunters.

I don't think you get "hogs move faster"

Yes, you can easily kill gauss with hunters, when they are equally teched.  Otherwise, gauss will win.

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Felix:

I FJ I:

The range for hunters is practicly same as guass. Anyone with semi acceptable micro can kill hogs with hunters.

I don't think you get "hogs move faster"

Yes, you can easily kill gauss with hunters, when they are equally teched.  Otherwise, gauss will win.

Spirit bond does a great job. Assult rifle does much better.

 

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I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

Okay, you want to pay 6650 res. JUST to get those Hunters? And the TIME it takes? Plus you STILL have to buy the Hunters in mass numbers? For UNSC, as FORGE (yea, harder than Anders)

1500 for Reactors, 1450 for upgrades, and if you can get that, Hogs 'll be easy.

In the end, it's 2950 vs. 6650. Yeah. 

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I FJ I:

Felix:

I FJ I:

The range for hunters is practicly same as guass. Anyone with semi acceptable micro can kill hogs with hunters.

I don't think you get "hogs move faster"

Yes, you can easily kill gauss with hunters, when they are equally teched.  Otherwise, gauss will win.

Spirit bond does a great job. Assult beam does much better.

 

Well, I think we're down here...

As I kept telling you, the gauss will out micro you.  You just keep telling me, "assult beam works".  Yes, it works.  We. Get. IT.  But, what I'm trying to say is, you won't be able to get to assult beam when you're trying to stop a gauss spam, and the gauss spam will win unless you somehow have an extra army attacking his base.

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I honestly think AB makes Hunters worse against gauss. I stick at spirit bond regardless. I haven't formally tested it but it looks that way from experience. It may be worth actually testing sometime.

The problem is when the hogs kite around their max distance, hunters' beams just seem to trail and not make a lot of contact. The bonus to AB hunters however is the building damage boost, which somewhat evens you out on building damage.

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Felix:

I FJ I:

Felix:

I FJ I:

The range for hunters is practicly same as guass. Anyone with semi acceptable micro can kill hogs with hunters.

I don't think you get "hogs move faster"

Yes, you can easily kill gauss with hunters, when they are equally teched.  Otherwise, gauss will win.

Spirit bond does a great job. Assult beam does much better.

 

Well, I think we're down here...

As I kept telling you, the gauss will out micro you.  You just keep telling me, "assult beam works".  Yes, it works.  We. Get. IT.  But, what I'm trying to say is, you won't be able to get to assult beam when you're trying to stop a gauss spam, and the gauss spam will win unless you somehow have an extra army attacking his base.

I agree you went get to assult beam, i said that form the start. What im saying now is, assuming a fair fight, im not talking 30 guass v 1 hinter or anything.

The guass cant out micro assult beam, or spirit bond. Simple hunter micro > guass everytime.

But, the whole prolem is, the guass doesnt even need to fight the hunters to win. But assuming, there was a fight, the hinters will win, every single time.

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I honestly think AB makes Hunters worse against gauss. I stick at spirit bond regardless. I haven't formally tested it but it looks that way from experience. It may be worth actually testing sometime.

The problem is when the hogs kite around their max distance, hunters' beams just seem to trail and not make a lot of contact. The bonus to AB hunters however is the building damage boost, which somewhat evens you out on building damage.

There is no map where the hogs can keep running around avoiding the beam. They will hit something quickly and have to turn around and bacj into the beam for insta death.

Assuming they could run around and around the hunters. The hogs won kill the hunters quick enough before they get to an obsticle, or your base, then the hogs get trapped and die.

For the guass to win, you would need good micro and on open plain field, and there isnt a map like that.

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Gauss can definitely beat assault beam hunters. I've seen an army of gauss wipe out my hunter army in seconds and the hogs barely took any losses. The sad part is, I paid more money, have a direct counter, and have tech 4 upgrades and they still got raped.

 

Hunters aren't a counter to hogs when the gauss cannon kills hunters faster than anything else in the game. Even the hunters counter (oxide flamethrowers) take forever to kill upgraded hunters. Gauss however, drops hunters in a few shots even though they are supposed to counter and are tech 4 compared to tech 3 gauss.

 

The ram is also too strong early game. I really shouldn't be forced to go wraiths every game because the hunters suck so bad.

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Ive seen fully upgraded flamers, outnumbering the hunters, also with adrenaline lose to hunters. Not poor micro on flamers part, Prince was in control of them. I couldnt belive my eyes when these hunters wipe out the flamers, and not with extremely heavy losses ethier.

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Gauss to tech 4 for nerf, please. I have a sinking feeling Robot's plans for TU3 will not do much to change gauss at all.

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There is no map where the hogs can keep running around avoiding the beam. They will hit something quickly and have to turn around and bacj into the beam for insta death.

Assuming they could run around and around the hunters. The hogs won kill the hunters quick enough before they get to an obsticle, or your base, then the hogs get trapped and die.

For the guass to win, you would need good micro and on open plain field, and there isnt a map like that.

What they can do, though, is run into LOS, and run back out of LOS repeatedly, sort of "dive bombing". Assault beam hunters are horrible at fighting this tactic.

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I FJ I:Assult beam hunters own guass

by the time you get aussault beam gauss will be knocking at your door before you research it. Plus you have to mass hunters and hogs cost less and are faster to train TGF Tu3

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I FJ I:Ive seen fully upgraded flamers, outnumbering the hunters, also with adrenaline lose to hunters. Not poor micro on flamers part, Prince was in control of them. I couldnt belive my eyes when these hunters wipe out the flamers, and not with extremely heavy losses ethier.

 

Not really a fair match-up since assault beam is the equivalent of a tech 4 UNSC upgrade. Now if the spirit bond hunters won, then that's a different story.

 

Plus flamethrowers are anti-infantry. Since hunters are heavy infantry, they might only soft counter them. And you also have to take price into consideration.

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