I'd like to address the MAC

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  •  09-23-2008, 10:02 PM 361963 in reply to 361953

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    I'll have to debate your points tomorrow Sprinkles. But I must say that I am finding this rather thrilling.

    See ya! 


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    Then you should be pretty happy with the game; it's a lot of fun.
    Even if a squad of marines out of dozens of units on a battle field has shoulder pads .25" too thick for a fanboy's tastes :)

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  •  09-23-2008, 10:19 PM 361979 in reply to 361963

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    * Prepares popcorn and soda for tomorrow's debate*. This is rather amusing and entertaining to watch.
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  •  09-23-2008, 10:20 PM 361981 in reply to 361963

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    Ignore


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  •  09-23-2008, 10:24 PM 361984 in reply to 361981

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    lol...
    we will always remember...
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  •  09-23-2008, 10:26 PM 361985 in reply to 361981

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    I just happened to miss out on all the fun :( I'll be ever ready for tomorrow.

    The MAC (magnetic accelerator canon) is an asinine concept for small and accurate surface bombardment as it is being used in Halo Wars. I've spoken.




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  •  09-23-2008, 10:31 PM 361988 in reply to 361953

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    Mr. sprinkles:

    Warhammer 40000 and Warhammer: Fantasy beat starcraft AND warcraft to each theme by about twenty years. Warhammer came in somewhere around 1970, starcraft was 1998. Warhammer was the original creator of the 'Green ork' (Not saying everything with snot green orks is a copy, just stating who first used the concept.) I know extensive lore about 40K and ready the lore about the starcraft factions made me gag.

    Wow, I'm sorry but Warhammer was beaten to the Ork concept by J.R.R Tolkien by a considerable margin. Anyway, I don't really care about Warcraft much so I'll concede this section to you (Can't say that Rasq and Sparhawk won't give it a shot)

     

    Let me give you some examples: Zerg-Tyrannids. At the time Zerg were thought up the Tyrannids where becoming popular in warhammer 40000 stories and games, Tyrannids absorb the biomass of their dead and dead enemies and adapt traits of their for if they so wish. They also serve onbe single hive mind, have a chititnous shell, and attack in large numbers in brutal melee. By your logic then the Tyrannids must be condemned for copying the Bugs from Starship Troopers.

    Plus other lore. Also at the time blizzard released the Zerg Tyrannids could communicate with other aliens. Zerg are almost exactly Tyrannids at the time of their creation. Tyrannids where later changed to not being able to communicate. 

    The Zerg were created from a very weak insectal race who's only virtue was their genetic versatility. After the Xel'Naga worked on them trying to achieve Perfection of Mind, thus the creation of the Overmind, the Zerg learned to copy and then supercharge another species DNA. They do not make use of dead tissue as the DNA starts to break down. They need living flesh. The Zerg do not communicate with any species outside of the Zerg Swarm. the only exceptions to this are the Cerebrates who may occasionally taunt the enemy commander and Sarah Kerrigan, the Queen of Blades.

     

    Protoss-Eldar: Both: An ancient and debased people focusing on speed and stealth, seeking to fix the galaxy and balance it. Mortally wounded protoss are put in an armoured mech to keep fighting (Combination of Wraithlord//guard Dreadnaught: Space marine concept switched around) Low numbers mean they have to be extremely wise.

    Oh yes, completely blow off the rest of the Protoss lore and nitpick your favorite parts. First of all, the Protoss never came off as wise. Fenix was just an old warrior ready to kick some @ss and Tassadar had to be wise and intelligent to earn his place in command in the first place.The Protoss do not wish to balamce the galaxy, they only wish to destroy the threat of their evil step cousins twice removed, the Zerg, which were plowing through the galaxy in a blood thirsty rampage, intent on doing the same to the Protoss. Their very first action in encountering humanity was to slag the planet to a point where the Covenant would be envious. The Protoss are a bio-enhanced race furbished by the Xel'Naga. As for placing those incapable of fighting in armored suites that's a very common theme in Sci Fi.

    Terran-Space marine: Do I even have to say anything? Just look at two pictures of them side by side. Warhammer 40000 has traitor pirates and illegal traders that resemble spce pirates. Even a renegade space marine chapter. The influence of chaos and the powers of the warp are ever pressing on the weak mind. And the only way to drive it out is with blind devotion, devotion to the one person responsible for human survival and prosperity: the emperor.  Embellished in propeganda a a god The emperor acts as a symbol that keeps mankind together.

    Ok, your argument just got retarded. Humanity if you haven't noticed yet, loves to break the very laws it creates. This is usually done by a minority compared to the rest of the populace and it isn't too far fetched that they'd do the same in space. We have pirates today. The only thing that changes are the ships and weapons they use.

    As for Raynor's Raiders they split after Jim Raynor realized what a snake Arcturus Mengsk was and left, vowing to get back at him for leaving Sarah Kerrigan to die at the hands of the Zerg. Yeah that didn't go so well.

    Arcturus Mengsk also known as Emperor Mengsk of the Terran Empire, is at first and foremost, a politician. A particularly ambitious and dangerous one who used the destruction of Korhal as a way of gathering forces. Most thought him as either a terrorist or freedom fighter at that point. It was only until he set the Zerg onto the Confederacy capital planet of Tarsonis and subsequent declaration of his new Regime did the mask come off.

     

    Now I have to put something to back up my points, some other reasoning for my points other than inferrence. Did you know Games workshop (Creators of both Warhammer universes) were supposed to help make warcraft? My theory is that Games workshop wanted to use it as a way to introduce warhammer to a larger crowd (At that point it was only books and a tabletop game) but when Bluizzard told them they wouldn't include "Warhammer" in the name games workshop dropped out. Blizzard went on to finish the game (Stressed to create completely new ideas, they had to keep many of the themes from warhammer, but changes name and switch small things around in the races. And they went on to do the same with starcraft. Not all ideas are from  Warhammer universes, but I do find that such a poorly covered collage of science fiction mostly from two universes a bit distasteful.

    If you hate thinly covered collages of sci fi so much why do you like Warhammer? 

     

    Anywhoo let's not turn this into a flame war, other wise it'll be Locked.

     

    I just spent the last thirty minutes researching the parts of Warhammer I didn't already know and recalling what I know of Star Craft lore. I'm not waiting to post this beast. However, keep it congenial, fellows, as I would rather like to see how this discussion goes and I ask the mods to not lock this out of hand simply because it's off topic. We need topics like this to keep us going. We only get the once-a-month update and most of the time it's telling us about some gaming convention we can't get to.


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  •  09-24-2008, 3:13 AM 362029 in reply to 361988

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    that was nice and all,but on topic please?

  •  09-24-2008, 5:05 PM 362274 in reply to 357183

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    L0d3x:
    @Sprinkles: not a bad argument, but Rot's counter basically just illustrated everything that's wrong with halowars. If fans can think of better stuff (read "more suitable" things with the same effect) than the developers, then something's wrong.

     

    thanks! oh god thanks! i know this is not about the mac but why is esemble making the spartan have a splazer when then could just use a rocket launcher? its like they just want it to look a little like halo 3... i really do not understand why its so hard for them the scrap the splazer for a rocket laucnher?? it would make every halo canon fan happy and it would change gameplay!? 


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  •  09-24-2008, 5:16 PM 362285 in reply to 362274

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    Evador:

    L0d3x:
    @Sprinkles: not a bad argument, but Rot's counter basically just illustrated everything that's wrong with halowars. If fans can think of better stuff (read "more suitable" things with the same effect) than the developers, then something's wrong.

     

    thanks! oh god thanks! i know this is not about the mac but why is esemble making the spartan have a splazer when then could just use a rocket launcher? its like they just want it to look a little like halo 3... i really do not understand why its so hard for them the scrap the splazer for a rocket laucnher?? it would make every halo canon fan happy and it would change gameplay!? 

    because everybody wants everything that was in halo 3 to be in halowars. (hornet,phantom,etc)

  •  09-24-2008, 5:32 PM 362298 in reply to 362274

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    Evador:

    L0d3x:
    @Sprinkles: not a bad argument, but Rot's counter basically just illustrated everything that's wrong with halowars. If fans can think of better stuff (read "more suitable" things with the same effect) than the developers, then something's wrong.

     

    thanks! oh god thanks! i know this is not about the mac but why is esemble making the spartan have a splazer when then could just use a rocket launcher? its like they just want it to look a little like halo 3... i really do not understand why its so hard for them the scrap the splazer for a rocket laucnher?? it would make every halo canon fan happy and it would change gameplay!? 

    Ok, first things first. Not every idea from the fans is a jewel-encrusted gift from god. Some are just dumb, some are bizarre, and some while sounding fun and interesting would be a nightmare to put into the game. ES is making the game and if you think you can do better then make your own *** game. Yes, there are some minor issues with the game, but hey, we've belabored them to the point of death and we can only hope ES addresses these items. As for looking like Halo 3, I say screw that. Each Halo game has had it's own particular style, let ES give Halo Wars it's own. I mean the Pelican has changed in appearance in each game. It's subtle, but it's there.


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  •  09-24-2008, 5:40 PM 362304 in reply to 362298

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    Offensive Bias:
    Evador:

    L0d3x:
    @Sprinkles: not a bad argument, but Rot's counter basically just illustrated everything that's wrong with halowars. If fans can think of better stuff (read "more suitable" things with the same effect) than the developers, then something's wrong.

     

    thanks! oh god thanks! i know this is not about the mac but why is esemble making the spartan have a splazer when then could just use a rocket launcher? its like they just want it to look a little like halo 3... i really do not understand why its so hard for them the scrap the splazer for a rocket laucnher?? it would make every halo canon fan happy and it would change gameplay!? 

    Ok, first things first. Not every idea from the fans is a jewel-encrusted gift from god. Some are just dumb, some are bizarre, and some while sounding fun and interesting would be a nightmare to put into the game. ES is making the game and if you think you can do better then make your own *** game. 

     

    haha how mature.. i would make a better game if i had a team of programmers and artist... 

     whats your *** problem? no ofcaurse not every fan idea is better, where in the text do you find that? and i just think its stupid that they dosnt do whats logical/true to canon/equally as good... but you just had to be a *** *** right? AND whats with the hole 'then make your own game' child like argument? im just pointing out things i would like to see changed.. god how can guys like you survive in a world where you have to be clever enough to eat without help...
     


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  •  09-24-2008, 5:43 PM 362307 in reply to 362304

    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    Evador:
    Offensive Bias:
    Evador:

    L0d3x:
    @Sprinkles: not a bad argument, but Rot's counter basically just illustrated everything that's wrong with halowars. If fans can think of better stuff (read "more suitable" things with the same effect) than the developers, then something's wrong.

     

    thanks! oh god thanks! i know this is not about the mac but why is esemble making the spartan have a splazer when then could just use a rocket launcher? its like they just want it to look a little like halo 3... i really do not understand why its so hard for them the scrap the splazer for a rocket laucnher?? it would make every halo canon fan happy and it would change gameplay!? 

    Ok, first things first. Not every idea from the fans is a jewel-encrusted gift from god. Some are just dumb, some are bizarre, and some while sounding fun and interesting would be a nightmare to put into the game. ES is making the game and if you think you can do better then make your own *** game. 

     

    haha how mature.. i would make a better game if i had a team of programmers and artist... 

     whats your *** problem? no ofcaurse not every fan idea is better, where in the text do you find that? and i just think its stupid that they dosnt do whats logical/true to canon/equally as good... but you just had to be a *** *** right? AND whats with the hole 'then make your own game' child like argument? im just pointing out things i would like to see changed.. god how can guys like you survive in a world where you have to be clever enough to eat without help...
     

     

    Offensive Bias you should chill. the incident with tim is still in the air so don't make a scene here. both of you should handle this in PMs


  •  09-24-2008, 5:46 PM 362309 in reply to 362307

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    Re: I'd like to address the MAC

    Oy, no need for a flaming war over a simple misinterpretation of Evadors actions/beliefs.  I don't see a logical reason for the flaming to have started, nor for Evador to have continued the flaming.

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  •  09-24-2008, 5:48 PM 362313 in reply to 362309

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    Unscientifical:
    Oy, no need for a flaming war over a simple misinterpretation of Evadors actions/beliefs.  I don't see a logical reason for the flaming to have started, nor for Evador to have continued the flaming.

     

    true but there is no misinterpretation involved in this...


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  •  09-24-2008, 5:50 PM 362317 in reply to 362307

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    Grey101:
    Evador:
    Offensive Bias:
    Evador:

    L0d3x:
    @Sprinkles: not a bad argument, but Rot's counter basically just illustrated everything that's wrong with halowars. If fans can think of better stuff (read "more suitable" things with the same effect) than the developers, then something's wrong.

     

    thanks! oh god thanks! i know this is not about the mac but why is esemble making the spartan have a splazer when then could just use a rocket launcher? its like they just want it to look a little like halo 3... i really do not understand why its so hard for them the scrap the splazer for a rocket laucnher?? it would make every halo canon fan happy and it would change gameplay!? 

    Ok, first things first. Not every idea from the fans is a jewel-encrusted gift from god. Some are just dumb, some are bizarre, and some while sounding fun and interesting would be a nightmare to put into the game. ES is making the game and if you think you can do better then make your own *** game. 

     

    haha how mature.. i would make a better game if i had a team of programmers and artist... 

     whats your *** problem? no ofcaurse not every fan idea is better, where in the text do you find that? and i just think its stupid that they dosnt do whats logical/true to canon/equally as good... but you just had to be a *** *** right? AND whats with the hole 'then make your own game' child like argument? im just pointing out things i would like to see changed.. god how can guys like you survive in a world where you have to be clever enough to eat without help...
     

     

    Offensive Bias you should chill. the incident with tim is still in the air so don't make a scene here. both of you should handle this in PMs

    Agreed and also Evador...I'm just gonna point out that you shouldn't say he's being immature when your swearing around like its a normal thing to do 



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