Rotaretilbo:

Altering the atmosphere doesn't necessarily mean changing as much as removing. And since Combat Forms can jump between ships in space in order to board vessels, I'd say that respiration is not a primary function of the Flood.

Where did Combat Forms jump between ships (Ghosts of Onyx? I remember there was the issue of Flood breaching the hulls of the ships). And I still think that "altering" the atmosphere means just that; altering, as opposed to removing.

Hawki:

Um, you do realise that the Thor is primarily a ground-to-air unit and that as of the current build, Vikings are primarily air units with ground mode as a secondary capability.

Rotaretilbo:

That's odd...because isn't the Thor supposed to be like this awesome artillery piece?

The Thor article describes the Thor in its earliest build, as opposed to later ones. Still, if you want an in-universe explanation, remember that the Thor that Trey reported on was a prototype. The Dominion could have changed its designs since then. Still, Thundergod will probably answer these questions anyway.

Rotaretilbo:

But...I like firebats... :p

Technically I like them too, even if they're next to useless in-game. Still, they'll almost certainly be in the map editor and we know that the Dominion likely still utilizes Firebats, even if they're no longer playable units.

Rotaretilbo:

Sure, and in an open desert with no cover and nothing to climb on, who would win: ten SPARTAN-IIs or a Scarab?

The Scarab hands down. If they had explosive weaponry they might be able to temporarily ground it, but if not, they don't have a snowball's chance in hell.

Rasq'uire'laskar:

That's what they were as of a few months ago. But why use artillery to attack air?

It would probably be the railguns attacking air. Also, explosive shells are still a hazard for aircraft.

Rotaretilbo:

Engineers make appearances in Halo: The Fall of Reach, as well as Halo: First Strike and Halo: Contact Harvest. I believe they make appearances in the other two novels as well.

Two novels? Last I heard, only one more was confirmed.

blackout131:

ya, i'm pretty sure juggernoughts would be pure forms

I dunno. The Pure Forms just have a different vibe to them. I pesonally consider the Juggernauts really big Combat Forms fused from multiple bodies.

TNine:

Maybe Juggernauts are put together when many Lekgolo worms are put together.  Each worm was put together by a infection form.

Or maybe flood form Juggernauts when there is threat of veichles.  There is no veichle flood levels in H3.

It's impossible for Flood to infest lekgolo, even if they are bunched together. Their nervous system isn't compatible.

Aesendant Justice:

Yeah but we werent actually "near" the gravemind so we dont know exactly where it was.  Maybe it was in some sealed chamber at the heart of high charity or something.  In my opinion it would have been cool to actually see the whole thing rather than just the head and a few tentacles.

Check The Art of Halo. You'll get the closest thing.

Scifidownbeat:

I think that if it isn't in the final cut of the game (or final edition of the book, like with the engineer), it isn't canon. Ensemble could change that.

Or it has yet to be released. Remember, "just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there."

Hawki:

TNine:

Maybe Juggernauts are put together when many Lekgolo worms are put together.  Each worm was put together by a infection form.

Or maybe flood form Juggernauts when there is threat of veichles.  There is no veichle flood levels in H3.

It's impossible for Flood to infest lekgolo, even if they are bunched together. Their nervous system isn't compatible.

We know that one infection form can't infect a hunter.

But could one infection form infect a hunter worm?

Just bringing up possibilities.

agreed

Hawki:

Where did Combat Forms jump between ships (Ghosts of Onyx? I remember there was the issue of Flood breaching the hulls of the ships). And I still think that "altering" the atmosphere means just that; altering, as opposed to removing.

Halo: Ghosts of Onyx, page 197:

The Rapturous Arcmoved, wheeled toward the stars, and then continued to turn toward the other three destroyers abeam of Halo. It touched one of its brother ships, energy shields shimmered, frequencies matched, and the Flood-infected ship released swarms of bulbous carrier forms.

Hawki:

The Thor article describes the Thor in its earliest build, as opposed to later ones. Still, if you want an in-universe explanation, remember that the Thor that Trey reported on was a prototype. The Dominion could have changed its designs since then. Still, Thundergod will probably answer these questions anyway.

I really need to get into StarCraft lore...

Hawki:

Technically I like them too, even if they're next to useless in-game. Still, they'll almost certainly be in the map editor and we know that the Dominion likely still utilizes Firebats, even if they're no longer playable units.

Yayz Firebats. :p

Hawki:

The Scarab hands down. If they had explosive weaponry they might be able to temporarily ground it, but if not, they don't have a snowball's chance in hell.

Exactly.

Hawki:

It would probably be the railguns attacking air. Also, explosive shells are still a hazard for aircraft.

It still feels pretty big to be used as an AA weapon.

Hawki:

Two novels? Last I heard, only one more was confirmed.

I meant Halo: The Flood and Halo: Ghosts of Onyx. I couldn't remember if Engineers make appearances in those two novels.

Hawki:

I dunno. The Pure Forms just have a different vibe to them. I pesonally consider the Juggernauts really big Combat Forms fused from multiple bodies.

I'm still intrigued by the resemblance shared by the Carrier Form and Juggernaut.

Hawki:

It's impossible for Flood to infest lekgolo, even if they are bunched together. Their nervous system isn't compatible.

Exactly.

Hawki:

Check The Art of Halo. You'll get the closest thing.

*** I wish I had more monies.

Hawki:

Or it has yet to be released. Remember, "just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there."

We can all agree that the Juggernaut is not confirmed canon, however. I personally think it is canon, others do not.

TNine:

We know that one infection form can't infect a hunter.

But could one infection form infect a hunter worm?

Just bringing up possibilities.

Lekgolos are comprised of thousands of eels/worms. These are too small to support an Infection Form anyway.

Aesendant Justice:

Look at the size of the hunter worms then look at the size of the parasites, it would be impossible.

Agreed.

343Mccutcheon_spark:

if the flood are in halo wars there would have to be some strength changes to the humans because in the FPS series the humans are owned big time by the flood.

Sure, but in the FPS series, we only ever see masses of Flood vs isolated groups of human resistance. In an RTS, there would be much more human resistance.

Tiberium:

agreed

Quite informative. Thank you for posting your opinion.

Rotaretilbo:

I really need to get into StarCraft lore...

As one of the admins, may I suggest that you check http://www.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft  (shameless plug ^_^)

Hawki:

Two novels? Last I heard, only one more was confirmed.

Rotaretilbo:

I meant Halo: The Flood and Halo: Ghosts of Onyx. I couldn't remember if Engineers make appearances in those two novels.

I don't think Engineers appear in The Flood but they make a brief appearance in Ghosts of Onyx. A few Engineers are working in a Covenant ship, sorting out items. Among which is the NOVA bomb that a certain Grunt activates...

Rotaretilbo:

I'm still intrigued by the resemblance shared by the Carrier Form and Juggernaut.

You're right. Perhaps it combines the best of both worlds; the ability to spew out Infection Forms but still being deadly on the battlefield. A super unit in Halo Wars perhaps?

Hawki:

Check The Art of Halo. You'll get the closest thing.

Rotaretilbo:

*** I wish I had more monies.

I don't have a scanner, but think of a warped, twisted jungle tree with more vines than you can imagine of various thickness. The 'central' one is its 'face'.