L0dex:

Toagus:

Prophet of Fury:.

People that come on and state "I'm right and you're wrong" contribute nothing and the whole thing devolves into flaming (I'm not talking about you. Bear with me). I get so sick of people that write a fairly decent response to a post only to end it with stuff like GTFO, get a life, you suck, STFU, etc. I know it's mostly the younger folks trying to act like adults. For you other adults out there, think about that.

Hey wait a second, people who say I'm right, your wrong? That sounds strangely familiar, "L0d3x:I was right, you were wrong. Have a chill pill beforeyou engage in the next round ;P" Omg, I think thats where this thread is heading. L0d3x obviously doesn't get that its an opinion-based argument, stated countless times before by SpartanR41, and still thinks that his view is the only view. He is a hypocrite as well, saying that he doesn't want people to flame him, and then goes to write, "I suppose some people need laughter off the internet" (or something like that).

How convenient, you took out ONE piece of the monster post in which I was certain I was correct. If I recall, it was really just simple logic, and wasn't even on topic. Taking some words and moulding them into a context is VERY convenient isn't it?

Yes I'm pretty sure "engage in the next round ;P" was about the next round of something that is just simple logic and completely off topic.

I also never said anything about not wanting to be flamed, I simply don't care and will read over flames. Nice try though. 

So you just read over flame, then expect people to read your post that contains flame, Nice.

 L0d3x, while people sharing your view do behave appropriately and present their reasonings in a polite manner, I believe you to be a troll who enjoys trolling.

Believe what you want, I don't care about your opinion about me. 

Thats fine.

Ps: I know this is off-topic, but are you......... Felix??????

Yes, I am Felix.

... 

Kk was just checking.

@Spartan: you said something about how your definition of the Halo feeling DIFFERS from mine. You also stated that you disagree with me, and say that this game does have the halo feeling...despite the fact you have a completely DIFFERENT definition of the halo feeling than me. Do you see anything wrong here? Cause I do.

You are arguing my opinion that this game does not have the halo feeling, while not understanding what I feel is the halo feeling? Even if you DO understand what my...feeling...of the halo feel is, you disagree with me because you're halo feel differs from mine?

Please elaborate, or don't. Either way I'll draw my conclusions from your response. Also don't expect answers till tomorrow.

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The solution to racism in America is to turn Ronald McDonald black. - Rapheal D. Mendoza (Tervalent Frog)
Halo Legends is a disgrace to the Halo Universe.

Dude, don't stoke the embers. It was just beginning to die down...

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Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

Haha don't worry, I'm not letting that kid ruin my mood. I'm not Felix btw, should the sarcasm not have been clear.

Just waitin for that essay. 

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"Seanyboy: L0dex is the cancer of these forums ='( "

Is this fight over?

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Night Angel:

Is this fight over?

it WAS over... 

but you had to bump it 

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AolxHangover:

i've never spoken to crusader but whenever i see his forum posts i think of a forge with no mussels :P

Ronin 3000:

Night Angel:

Is this fight over?

it WAS over... 

but you had to bump it 

WHY?! Why did you bump it?! LET IT DIE. 

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Think that new units/leaders/factions are possible or going to be added? Think again, read the linked thread.
http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/741500.aspx

Whoops, i was about to join, sorry.

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Night Angel:Whoops, i was about to join, sorry.

Who cares if this has been inactive for a few days, if you want to share something, go ahead.
Last I remember we were waiting for Spartan's view on the halo feeling, and why Halo Wars, according to him, does have it. 

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"Seanyboy: L0dex is the cancer of these forums ='( "

Short story, i belive it has ruined it. Long story ill post later.

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Spartan R41:

Prophet, while I do understand your view on the Halo Feel - I really do - I still don't agree with it. I do plan to make a thread (when certain conditions are met) in which I explore and explain my take on the Halo feel; as well as hoping other contribute (not argue) their views. I tell you this because I really don't want a fight with you, and I feel it's dangerously close to that point.  I still have no issue with you, as you haven't outright attacked any members, but I'm feeling some tension.

as an aside; Halo = Sex in reference, many lawlz ensue.

What?!? YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME!!!! YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A *&^*&(*( THAT $%$%@ IN HIS @%@^$@%$%!!!!!!!!

[/sarcasm]

Seriously, the discussion here is about the halo feeling being ruined. Your opinion matters

I have no intention of fighting with anyone since it's pointless.

In my opinion, the implementation of the leaders, particularly in MP, as well as some of the units, along with the way the story line plays out in campaign, leads me to conclude that Ensemble did not give Halo Wars the effort that anything to do with Halo deserves. I'll cut them some slack because they weren't making a Halo game to begin with and Microsoft clearly thought that if they could squeeze out a game with the word Halo on it they could lure fans away from Halo 2/3.

The facts are clear. How many people are online right this second playing Halo 3 compared to Halo Wars? Halo 2 even? All those people would rather play and older game, not because it's an FPS, but because it's Halo.

There is a lot of attention to detail in Bungie's games that's not in Ensemble's game. That's the difference.

 

Prophet of Fury:

Spartan R41:

Prophet, while I do understand your view on the Halo Feel - I really do - I still don't agree with it. I do plan to make a thread (when certain conditions are met) in which I explore and explain my take on the Halo feel; as well as hoping other contribute (not argue) their views. I tell you this because I really don't want a fight with you, and I feel it's dangerously close to that point.  I still have no issue with you, as you haven't outright attacked any members, but I'm feeling some tension.

as an aside; Halo = Sex in reference, many lawlz ensue.

What?!? YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME!!!! YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A *&^*&(*( THAT $%$%@ IN HIS @%@^$@%$%!!!!!!!!

[/sarcasm]

Seriously, the discussion here is about the halo feeling being ruined. Your opinion matters

I have no intention of fighting with anyone since it's pointless.

In my opinion, the implementation of the leaders, particularly in MP, as well as some of the units, along with the way the story line plays out in campaign, leads me to conclude that Ensemble did not give Halo Wars the effort that anything to do with Halo deserves. I'll cut them some slack because they weren't making a Halo game to begin with and Microsoft clearly thought that if they could squeeze out a game with the word Halo on it they could lure fans away from Halo 2/3.

The facts are clear. How many people are online right this second playing Halo 3 compared to Halo Wars? Halo 2 even? All those people would rather play and older game, not because it's an FPS, but because it's Halo.

There is a lot of attention to detail in Bungie's games that's not in Ensemble's game. That's the difference.

 

Exactly, it's Ensembles Game..not Bungie's. I wouldn't expect them to get anything spot on. I would expect them to have someone checking continuity, which either they didn't or they didn't care due to game play issues or w.e. Is there a halo feeling while playing Wars? Not really. Up until now I have only played Halo FPS's. So the "Halo Feel" for me is solely based on my experiences playing those games, first person shooters. It looks like Halo, it sounds like Halo, but it doesn't feel like Halo because the games are just different. Also it should be pointed out that this is all based on opinion, the "Halo Feel". To argue and debate over something like that is pointless. .

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L0dex:

Last I remember we were waiting for Spartan's view on the halo feeling, and why Halo Wars, according to him, does have it. 

I'm still working on it; my schedule this last week has become a slighter vision of hell. Hopefully it'll be up on Sunday.

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Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

tmspartan:

I've been explaining my opinion and trying to help L0dex explain his. That's why this is called a discussion forum. Someone states an opinion and everyone else discusses it. If it were a fact forum it would be pointless

   The sky is blue. Let's discuss.

Fact: The original Halo feel was dictated by games that were far different than Halo Wars.

Opinion: The Halo Feel is based on things far different than gameplay and canon.

The original Halo feel was dictated by the games and the books. They are inseparable.

I was looking for Halo and what I got was something that was dressed up like Halo. They didn't do what they needed to do to actually be Halo enough at least to where I wouldn't ask any questions or maybe just wouldn't want to know. Instead, I found things that made it absolutely clear to me that it's not Halo. I don't hate it for that, and we can be friends, but we're not going to have the same relationship that I would have with the real thing.

That's my opinion, and that's all it is.

And here's where we hit the meat of the post, sort of. I would like a little more specific answers but this will have to do for now. You see you don't explain what you believe the Halo feel is. You just claim this is a game with the Halo skin on it. Well others might agree with you if you elaborate a little.

In my opinion this is Halo. It wasn't just thrown with the name Halo for sales. It feels how real units would be used if the situations were right.

The animations are exactly how each unit is used in the other Halos.

In the other Halos Wraiths don't shoot flames. If you're that close to a Wraith you get spattered. In the other Halos Elephants are not mobile barracks. They're vehicle recovery units. In the other halos the Covenant does not bring down aircraft with needlers. They use fuel rod cannons. In the other Halos a typical Covenant ground force consists of a million grunts, a bunch of jackals, and a few elites/brutes. You may encounter a brute Chieftan. You will NEVER, EVER, encounter a Prophet fighting a battle. There are only three of them. They have millions of Elites, Brutes, Jackels and Grunts (and the insect race, whatever they're called) who are more than willing to fight and die for the Covenant (except for the Grunts, maybe). You might as well expect the President to grab an M16 and head for Afganistan.

Grav lifts don't teleport.

I don't know if base building is a necessary element for an RTS. If so, then Ensemble can be forgiven. But the Covenant does not build bases. They do not take planets and hold them. They are after Forerunner artifacts and they are in search of the Halo rings. When they find what they want they take it and move on. If they encounter too much resistance they just glass the planet. That's why they lose on the ground. They just don't waste a lot of time on the ground.

And the constant reference to Halo canon even in the multiplayer gives it the undeniable feeling that you're engaged in a Halo game. Whether it be through the eyes of a super soldier or from the view of an omniscient commander, this feels like Halo in my opinion.

And I respect your opinion. You feel they did enough.

Some of us feel that they didn't. That's our opinion.

 

My theories (or a fraction thereof) posted in the Halo Universe sub-forum.

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Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel