Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

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  •  03-14-2010, 7:59 AM 832531 in reply to 832506

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Gumbi:
    Tainted4Chaos:
    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    just because you have gunner dosnt make you better then any of the other little piggies out there...but seriously they can be ferocious but its funny to see a guy try to rush you with em when you have turrets they just fail (not gauss...dont need anyone to disagree with me here)

    Ya, but if you build a Turret, you have completed the Hogs job. You are now 250 resources behind your opponent and he/she needn't attack. He'll just gain map control more easily because of this.

     

    Yes but if you go ahead and use 30 to put a anti-vehicle on that bit(h and kill all those warthogs then the warthogtier is down like 600, 700 resources.  Before I get a new argument all these situations are hypothetical and vary every game, so there is no way to truly tell what this group of warthogs could do against a clever base operator.  However, I will admit that warthogs on occasion are very useful, but that does not mean they are the base unit for every game nor should there be one, for either side.   


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  •  03-14-2010, 8:03 AM 832537 in reply to 832531

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    DX Dazed:
    Gumbi:
    Tainted4Chaos:
    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    just because you have gunner dosnt make you better then any of the other little piggies out there...but seriously they can be ferocious but its funny to see a guy try to rush you with em when you have turrets they just fail (not gauss...dont need anyone to disagree with me here)

    Ya, but if you build a Turret, you have completed the Hogs job. You are now 250 resources behind your opponent and he/she needn't attack. He'll just gain map control more easily because of this.

     

    Yes but if you go ahead and use 30 to put a anti-vehicle on that bit(h and kill all those warthogs then the warthogtier is down like 600, 700 resources.  Before I get a new argument all these situations are hypothetical and vary every game, so there is no way to truly tell what this group of warthogs could do against a clever base operator.  However, I will admit that warthogs on occasion are very useful, but that does not mean they are the base unit for every game nor should there be one, for either side.   

    OK. Let me break this down for you, word by word. If I attack your base with 4 Gunner Hogs and you have no defenses and start to build a Turret I will destroy it.  If I attack your base and see that you already have a Turret I say to myself "He spent 300 on an anti-vehicle Turret, he is now behind 300 on res, I can now gain map control unhindered" Thus I have a distinct advantage and will out-produce/out-tech you.

     

    No offense, but your opinions are most likely based on games vs low-level players

  •  03-14-2010, 8:05 AM 832538 in reply to 832531

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    DX Dazed:
    Gumbi:
    Tainted4Chaos:
    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    just because you have gunner dosnt make you better then any of the other little piggies out there...but seriously they can be ferocious but its funny to see a guy try to rush you with em when you have turrets they just fail (not gauss...dont need anyone to disagree with me here)

    yeah every game is diffrent if fighting a low ranked and know this is the win and dont feel like wasting time or getting points why not go for it? but ive never had luck with the hogs who wants to teach me how toooo?

    Ya, but if you build a Turret, you have completed the Hogs job. You are now 250 resources behind your opponent and he/she needn't attack. He'll just gain map control more easily because of this.

     

    Yes but if you go ahead and use 30 to put a anti-vehicle on that bit(h and kill all those warthogs then the warthogtier is down like 600, 700 resources.  Before I get a new argument all these situations are hypothetical and vary every game, so there is no way to truly tell what this group of warthogs could do against a clever base operator.  However, I will admit that warthogs on occasion are very useful, but that does not mean they are the base unit for every game nor should there be one, for either side.   


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  •  03-14-2010, 8:15 AM 832543 in reply to 832538

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Are you really going to break it down word for word for me man?  How about tell me what level and is it 1v1 2v2 or 3v3?  will I have built a turret and another base by now?  Do you know how every single scenario will happen in advance?  Please please tell me masta I would a just a love to know all about it.  Yea suck my di(k a55h0le
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  •  03-14-2010, 8:22 AM 832547 in reply to 832524

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Gumbi:

    Tainted4Chaos:true...i just got owned by Gumbi but i need every unit (at least want) to be usefull if im going to just have things taking up my pop i might as wel not have them when i could have something better

    I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. However, Gunner Hogs are not wasted pop cap. They can get you Hooks, clear bases, collect crates and harass. They are also potential Gauss Hogs :)

    no im saying after you control the map what are you going to do with the remaining hogs? going gauss is a waste unless you plan on going and sticking with you little piggies but that may not be the best idea (not saying gauss hogs cant reck alot of what they come by infact i just recently got owned by full pop gauss, wasnt really fair i just lost an army destroying a base and my mind was slipping when it came to my macro with a inactive teammate to add to my pile of troubles)


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    looking for a way to prove im the best 2's player
  •  03-14-2010, 8:24 AM 832548 in reply to 832547

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    i agree with what alot of you say i just like to argue and see what youd do so i can pick up other players strats im not trying to start a flame war with every one that says im wrong but this arguing is useful im not trying to carry a lighter with me every where i go
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  •  03-14-2010, 8:29 AM 832553 in reply to 832547

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Tainted4Chaos:

    no im saying after you control the map what are you going to do with the remaining hogs?

    Keep map control and scout.


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  •  03-14-2010, 8:34 AM 832557 in reply to 832553

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    drugiS:
    Tainted4Chaos:

    no im saying after you control the map what are you going to do with the remaining hogs?

    Keep map control and scout.

    that ends this topic...no way to argue =p


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  •  03-14-2010, 9:13 AM 832589 in reply to 832358

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Hog were here before humans and hw is their niche.
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  •  03-14-2010, 9:14 AM 832591 in reply to 832589

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Elecbound:Hog were here before humans and hw is their niche.

    this dosnt make sense


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    looking for a way to prove im the best 2's player
  •  03-14-2010, 9:24 AM 832610 in reply to 832483

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    No they don't, in fact at high level play, not a whole lot of units get used. Besides, I doubt you can use one better than most can use 10 since you not so long ago posted a thread about your strategy to not scout and stun-jack tanks.


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  •  03-14-2010, 9:27 AM 832615 in reply to 832610

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Arbiter 1337:
    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    No they don't, in fact at high level play, not a whole lot of units get used. Besides, I doubt you can use one better than most can use 10 since you not so long ago posted a thread about your strategy to not scout and stun-jack tanks.

    if its a good even game then lots of units should be used but 10:1 is a little over it


    GT: Tainted4Chaos
    looking for a way to prove im the best 2's player
  •  03-14-2010, 9:29 AM 832616 in reply to 832530

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    DX Dazed:
    Gumbi:
    Tainted4Chaos:
    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    just because you have gunner dosnt make you better then any of the other little piggies out there...but seriously they can be ferocious but its funny to see a guy try to rush you with em when you have turrets they just fail (not gauss...dont need anyone to disagree with me here)

    Ya, but if you build a Turret, you have completed the Hogs job. You are now 250 resources behind your opponent and he/she needn't attack. He'll just gain map control more easily because of this.

     

    Yes but if you go ahead and use 350 to put a anti-vehicle on that bit(h and kill all those warthogs then the warthogtier is down like 600, 700 resources.  Before I get a new argument all these situations are hypothetical and vary every game, so there is no way to truly tell what this group of warthogs could do against a clever base operator.  However, I will admit that warthogs on occasion are very useful, but that does not mean they are the base unit for every game nor should there be one, for either side.   

    No good player will let you kill their hogs with a turret. The aim of the warthogs early game is to force the enemy into a losing position, and that's 90% succeeded when you put up a turret, and more often than not, you'll need two to stop hogs.

    Warthogs are good in nearly every realistic situation, and there is practically no match up or realistic scenario where a good player wont make at least 2 gunner hogs early in the game. They are in fact the base unit fro every game, especially 1v1.


    Arbiter is 1337!
  •  03-14-2010, 9:32 AM 832619 in reply to 832616

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Arbiter 1337:
    DX Dazed:
    Gumbi:
    Tainted4Chaos:
    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    just because you have gunner dosnt make you better then any of the other little piggies out there...but seriously they can be ferocious but its funny to see a guy try to rush you with em when you have turrets they just fail (not gauss...dont need anyone to disagree with me here)

    Ya, but if you build a Turret, you have completed the Hogs job. You are now 250 resources behind your opponent and he/she needn't attack. He'll just gain map control more easily because of this.

     

    Yes but if you go ahead and use 350 to put a anti-vehicle on that bit(h and kill all those warthogs then the warthogtier is down like 600, 700 resources.  Before I get a new argument all these situations are hypothetical and vary every game, so there is no way to truly tell what this group of warthogs could do against a clever base operator.  However, I will admit that warthogs on occasion are very useful, but that does not mean they are the base unit for every game nor should there be one, for either side.   

    No good player will let you kill their hogs with a turret. The aim of the warthogs early game is to force the enemy into a losing position, and that's 90% succeeded when you put up a turret, and more often than not, you'll need two to stop hogs.

    Warthogs are good in nearly every realistic situation, and there is practically no match up or realistic scenario where a good player wont make at least 2 gunner hogs early in the game. They are in fact the base unit fro every game, especially 1v1.

    you would have to defend a single turret with the leader while keeping him there happy?


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    looking for a way to prove im the best 2's player
  •  03-14-2010, 9:33 AM 832621 in reply to 832615

    Re: Warthogs seem to be back, for the meantime...

    Tainted4Chaos:
    Arbiter 1337:
    DX Dazed:
    Kangaroo Love:

    Good players have always used warthogs obsessively, what are you talking about?

    Good players use everything obsessively, not just some lame a55 warthogs. I can use one warthog better than most people use 10.

    No they don't, in fact at high level play, not a whole lot of units get used. Besides, I doubt you can use one better than most can use 10 since you not so long ago posted a thread about your strategy to not scout and stun-jack tanks.

    if its a good even game then lots of units should be used but 10:1 is a little over it

    There is a difference between what should be used, and what is in fact used. Prince who is one of the best players never made Cobras, Wolves, Vultures, and very rarely made Tanks or Spartans. I know several other top players did the same.


    Arbiter is 1337!
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