UNSC unit upgrades

Last post 11-18-2009, 10:15 PM by AC Matt Klassen. 63 replies.
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  •  11-08-2009, 9:38 AM 768346 in reply to 767307

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    AC Matt Klassen:

    Hear me out okay?

    Cutter

    Marines-upgraded into ODST (doesn't change)

    Flamethrowers-upgraded into snipers, deal much more damage to infantry, actually a good unit against the Arbiter, since they can hit him when he's rage-running from your flamers.

    Spartans-No Change except they can jack Scarabs and Vultures. (even then it takes a f**klong time to hijack/gain veterancy)

    Elephant-upgraded into Oliphant, speed is buffed at the expense of turret damage.

    The other units are not changed.

     

    Forge

    Scorpions-Grizzlies (no change)

    Cobras-Plasma Rhinos (range increased)

    Wolverines-Badgers (massive damage to air)

    Cyclops-(Unchanged) 

     

    Anders

    Hornets-Hawks (unchanged)

    Vultures-(Unchanged)

    Gremlins-(UN-F***ING-CHANGED)

     

    I want a SUPER SCARAB that can 1s kill cobras!

    I want the Spartan to die in one ram by the UBER Ghost.

    I want Vamps to become Serpa fighter bombers So they can wreck everything.

    I Most certianly dont want a 300 point unit (spartan) to steal my 3000pt scrab. that is way to game changing. I mean the covie. guy had to spend 3000 and A LOT of time to get that and a 600pt four mac can already be made to be 500% effective so your proposing 1000% effective spartans.


    My wraiths should kill HAWKS and COBRAS and HUNTERS like a GRIZZLY CAN
  •  11-08-2009, 9:51 AM 768349 in reply to 767319

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    FLAMERS DONT NEED SNIPERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FLASHBANGS, DURATION DAMAGE AND ANDREANLINE SO OMGSTFUKBYE
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  •  11-08-2009, 10:13 AM 768357 in reply to 767307

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    just terrible

     

  •  11-08-2009, 6:46 PM 768792 in reply to 768295

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    Korther:
    AC Matt Klassen:

    Reply to Korther

     AC Matt Klassen:

    Hear me out okay?

    Cutter

    Marines-upgraded into ODST (give them BR's instead of shotguns)

    Flamethrowers-upgraded into snipers, deal much more damage to infantry, actually a good unit against the Arbiter, since they can hit him when he's rage-running from your flamers.

    Seriously, why the f*uck does everyone want this? AMG WE WANT EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME TO BE 100% EXACTLY AND UTTERLY THE SAME LOLOLOL.  Seriously, shut the *** up.  Flamers are BETTER than Jackals.  A unit shouldn't be completely reprogrammed because they can't kill one unit--which they can anyways.  Flamers do consistent, stream damage (and a crapton of building damage when in 10+ with Oxide).  Jackals are great until they get swarmed--and they have horrible building.  Not to mention the fact that Flamethrowers have something special called Flashbangs.  Yeah, they're really good.

    But the only time they can stand up to a leader is when they are massed, and against an Arbiter, you need a DB.

    "The leaders are supposed to be the most powerful units in the game." ~Esemble.  The leaders are there to do great damage.  If you gave them snipers, they'd be owned like he owns Jackals anyways.  Please, just because they may or may not be able to kill ONE unit in the game doesn't make them UP--it makes the other unit OP if anything.  Which he isnt.  Flamethrowers are fine.  They're better than Jackals in almost every single way.

    But my max pop T3 flamers can't kill one leader except for the Brute Army Commander. Also you spelled Ensemble wrong.

    Spartans-No Change except they can jack Scarabs and Vultures. (even then it takes a f**klong time to hijack/gain veterancy)

    Yeahno.  You're an idiot.  Why should a unit that costs 3000 resources, 20 pop, and already sucks b*lls in the first place be jackable? Not to mention the unfairness--you could have a max pop of Grizzlies then just jack a Scarab and bam, you got 20 more pop than you should have from a unit.

    Only Cutter can have this upgrade for Spartans... Just as only Forge can have Grizzlies...

    Cutter has ODST.  This is a retarded idea that can lead to some really bad problems.  Like I said, max pop tanks and then you jack a Scarab, and boom, you go to 60/40 pop and you lolpwn everybody.  It's totally unfair, and who even builds uber units?  You're giving too much power to Spartans.  They're fine

    For one, I said it would take a LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNG time to hijack, also who builds Scarabs against tanks, 15 canister shells and a dead scarab. Also they did it in campaign, why not in multiplayer...

    Elephant-upgraded into Oliphant, speed is buffed at the expense of turret damage.

    ....There's already a f*cking buff for speed and turret damage.  Seriously, wahts' the point? And wha a retarded name.

    The name comes from the game Halo 3: ODST. What I'm saying is when you upgrade this, it trains units quicker and goes much faster, but the turrets SUCK! 

    The Elephant isn't meant to be a tank.  It's a mobile barracks with minor defenese.  It's meant to pump out infantry, not take out armies.

    It isn't supposed to take out armies, it's supposed to be a moblie base, the guys that come out of the back kill armies, also the defense turret dishes out the same damage, it's the ones on the side that are weakened.

    The other units are not changed.

     

    Forge

    Scorpions-Grizzlies (I have noticed that when upgraded to Grizzly, Scorpion Tanks lose PT speed. So PT speed is increased)

    Cobras-Plasma Rhinos (range increased but speed decreased)

    No. Shut up.

    Why do you disagree with this idea?

    Breaks canon.  Ensemble/Robot would not be able to explain the Plasma Rhino in the Halo Universe or how the UNSC got it, especially that early in the war, and they would have to pay Bungie for f*cking up their canon.  Plus it's a retarded idea, Cobra's are great against armor already.  The reason the Plasma Rhino was in campagin was because it was made clear then it was just a prototype and that was the first time using them and whatnot.  However it can be inferred that they were never taken out of prototype stage.  The Plasma Rhino isn't even anti-armor, it's anti-shield.  The only use it'd have is to assault Covenant shield gens.

    Multiplayer breaks canon. Also I meant just slap the name Plasma Rhino on it, make it's projectiles look like plasma, but don't weaken it.

    Wolverines-Badgers (massive damage to air)

    Like Wolverines aren't Overpowered enough?

    I actually meant that the fire rate is increased.

    Like Wolverines aren't Overpowered enough?

    Maybe reduce their passive ability damage against infantry/vehicles.

    They just don't kill air fast enough.

    Cyclops-(Unchanged) 

    And you act like THIS unit of all units doesn't need a f***ing buff?

    Maybe it's effectiveness against vehicles need a buff.

    How does this need a nerf? It's the worst unit in the game.  Christ, you're an idiot.

    Fixed

     

    Anders

    Hornets-Hawks (unchanged)

    Vultures-(Unchanged)

    New Unit: Wombat-More of an aerial scout unit, can be upgraded with 25mm cannons. Can be made at T2

    ...Like Warthogs can't counter f*cking air already?

    Explain...

    Gremlins-(UN-F***ING-CHANGED)

    I am not insane enough to put a nerf/buff on Gremlins, they are balanced already.

    The only reason that I even changed Anders was because the Barracks is full, the Vehicle Depot is full, but there is a missing spot in the Air Pad.

    Overall UNSC (Field Armory)

    Ultra Turrets- rate of fire needs to be increased, damage decreased a bit (have a Covenant version too)

    Why? We have two turret upgrades already that -NOBODY USES-

    People use these upgrades...

    For SuperTurtles.

    Pelicans- (There is an empty slot in the Field Armory) T4 upgrade. Pelicans move faster, have weapons (very weak weapons), and good armor. Fixed.

    For once I agree with you, the first two sentences anyways.


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  •  11-08-2009, 7:29 PM 768817 in reply to 768792

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    Do you honestly think that Warthogs don't hard counter Air?

    Aloysius:
    -Less than half a of percent of players have the General rank on Xbox Live.


    How is the General rank fair again?

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  •  11-08-2009, 7:33 PM 768821 in reply to 768817

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    Korther:Do you honestly think that Warthogs don't hard counter Air?

    Warthogs can't do *** against Hawks/T3 Regretful Pedophile.


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  •  11-08-2009, 8:06 PM 768836 in reply to 768821

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    AC Matt Klassen:

    Korther:Do you honestly think that Warthogs don't hard counter Air?

    Warthogs can't do *** against Hawks/T3 Regretful Pedophile.

    Well no ***. Why are scout units built out of the base at T0 supposed to beat leaders and T4 super units? If the game gets to point where he has Hawks or T3 PoR, you should have Wolverines.

  •  11-08-2009, 8:07 PM 768837 in reply to 768836

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    pizzaaddict8:
    AC Matt Klassen:

    Korther:Do you honestly think that Warthogs don't hard counter Air?

    Warthogs can't do *** against Hawks/T3 Regretful Pedophile.

    Well no ***. Why are scout units built out of the base at T0 supposed to beat leaders and T4 super units? If the game gets to point where he has Hawks or T3 PoR, you should have Wolverines.

    This.  Gauss Hogs destroy T3 Banshees and T4 Hornets.  And even if they got max pop hawks and you got almost max pop Gauss hogs...with a good cryo (or without) you'll still win or get close to winning.

    EDIT: Tested it ingame against some guy sometime inadvertently.  It takes 13 gauss hogs to kill a T3 flying prophet.


    Aloysius:
    -Less than half a of percent of players have the General rank on Xbox Live.


    How is the General rank fair again?

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  •  11-08-2009, 9:05 PM 768883 in reply to 768837

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    I just have a question. How the *** did you think of "Do you honestly think that Warthogs don't hard counter Air?" out of my Wombat idea?


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  •  11-08-2009, 9:12 PM 768889 in reply to 768883

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    AC Matt Klassen:

    I just have a question. How the *** did you think of "Do you honestly think that Warthogs don't hard counter Air?" out of my Wombat idea?

    UNSC has enough anti-air


    Aloysius:
    -Less than half a of percent of players have the General rank on Xbox Live.


    How is the General rank fair again?

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  •  11-08-2009, 10:15 PM 768931 in reply to 768889

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

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  •  11-08-2009, 11:30 PM 768980 in reply to 768889

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    Korther:
    AC Matt Klassen:

    I just have a question. How the *** did you think of "Do you honestly think that Warthogs don't hard counter Air?" out of my Wombat idea?

    UNSC has enough anti-air

    The Wombat is a flipping AIR unit.

    read the post


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  •  11-09-2009, 12:08 AM 768992 in reply to 767307

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    Why would a military-issued Elephant "upgrade" into the civilian trash truck Oliphant? That makes no sense.

    Spartan jacking Scarabs and Vultures? Let's make Scarabs even more useless. Let's just grant Spartans the ability to steal Firebases, too.

    Wolverines to Badgers? Why? Dual Launchers do the job just fine.

    You changed all of the things that didn't need to be changed and then left alone all of the things that needed to be changed.


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  •  11-09-2009, 12:23 AM 768998 in reply to 768992

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    Viper Skills:

    Why would a military-issued Elephant "upgrade" into the civilian trash truck Oliphant? That makes no sense.

    It's just the name would be changed, and the Elephant would go a lot *** faster, and train units faster.

    Spartan jacking Scarabs and Vultures? Let's make Scarabs even more useless. Let's just grant Spartans the ability to steal Firebases, too.

    Stealing bases would be OP. I am saying that the Mega-Jack upgrade would be after the Spartan Laser upgrade and would cost 3700 pts.

    Wolverines to Badgers? Why? Dual Launchers do the job just fine.

    Faster firing launchers, man!

    You changed all of the things that didn't need to be changed and then left alone all of the things that needed to be changed.

    Fine, give me some tips okay?


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  •  11-09-2009, 12:40 AM 769004 in reply to 768998

    Re: UNSC unit upgrades

    AC Matt Klassen:
    Viper Skills:

    Why would a military-issued Elephant "upgrade" into the civilian trash truck Oliphant? That makes no sense.

    It's just the name would be changed, and the Elephant would go a lot *** faster, and train units faster.

    Spartan jacking Scarabs and Vultures? Let's make Scarabs even more useless. Let's just grant Spartans the ability to steal Firebases, too.

    Stealing bases would be OP. I am saying that the Mega-Jack upgrade would be after the Spartan Laser upgrade and would cost 3700 pts.

    Wolverines to Badgers? Why? Dual Launchers do the job just fine.

    Faster firing launchers, man!

    You changed all of the things that didn't need to be changed and then left alone all of the things that needed to be changed.

    Fine, give me some tips okay?

    Perhaps the Elephant doesn't need to be upgraded.

    Cyclops

    Cyclops availabe at T1

    T1 Upgrade-Repair Kit

    T2 Upgrade-Turret--Gives the Cyclops a weakened gauss cannon.

    T3 Upgrade-High Torque Joints

    Cyclops vehicle/infantry damage increased.


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