The Shield World

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  •  10-19-2009, 8:36 AM 752354 in reply to 752328

    Re: The Shield World

    Footbutt:well, we have to look at the design of the HW "Shield World" to gain understanding...
    from the outside, the planet was crawling with Flood. now that seems odd, due to the fact they were all just chillin'. The world MUST have been created after the war with the Flood began, because of the cleansing tunnels the ships had to pass through to get to the core. and with that little level addition, you technically have a protective layer around an obvious Forerunner installation. so yeah, it's a BIG stretch, but you could call it a shield world. and if you wanna go further, since the Forerunner ships were in "mint" condition, sitting on standby for 100K years, never used by their makers... maybe they were left for the next Mantle barers?


    Agree with the whole ship thing they may have been left for the humans to gain there place as rulers of the galaxy or summink like that (basically the status of the forerunners) which explains why humans can activate anything forerunner without tampering like the covenant does,

    The shield worlds have micro Dyson spheres to stop the the effects of the halo array and such and also preventing the flood to get inside because its another dimension so the "shield world " in halo wars was more of a port for the forerunner destroyers, since there was no Dyson sphere and the humans could escape while on onyx they could not escape and still trapped in the shield world. (Onyx is a shield world for those who don't know)

    and also the flood got past the defenses because oynx was millions of sentinels and no flood to be seen as humans where located there and no mention of the flood, while in halo wars the flood where on the outside and in while there where sentinels the planet was just a shell to protect the port in the middle, so since ensemble had no idea what to call it they just called it a shield world which makes sense

    Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

    wolver frog
    It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

    The Covenant eat planets.
  •  10-19-2009, 8:59 AM 752362 in reply to 752341

    Re: The Shield World

    Wild Smurf 14:There are still flood within the Shield World, so it you cannot call it a shield world in the sense that it will protect you from the Flood.

    There were no Flood inside the Shield World. just on the surface.


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    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

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  •  10-19-2009, 9:07 AM 752363 in reply to 752362

    Re: The Shield World

    Spartan R41:

    Wild Smurf 14:There are still flood within the Shield World, so it you cannot call it a shield world in the sense that it will protect you from the Flood.

    There were no Flood inside the Shield World. just on the surface.



    On the last mission we had to fight covenant and flood to open the exit remember and several times we thought the flood like the proto-gravemind and when you get to control the scarab an acheivemant was to destroy 10 bomb forms

    Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

    wolver frog
    It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

    The Covenant eat planets.
  •  10-19-2009, 9:32 AM 752369 in reply to 752363

    Re: The Shield World

    Oh holy crap, that makes my brain hurt. Looks like my novel is going to turn into a Charlie Foxtrot towards the end.

    Mmk, I'm mainly writing this out for my clarification, so bear with me. Anders escaped the- holy crap, I think I figured something out. Okay, once more, bear with me.

    The Unknown Forerunner planet had a very high level Flood infestation on the planet's surface. The Spirit of Fire traveled into the "portal," and arived inside the planet. So somehow, the Forerunner's were able to either hollow out the planet, or they created an artificial sphere world, with a protected interior. However, I don't think this was the Shield World.

    On the inside of the planet, there was the portal system. Anders escaped the Apex by saying "Surface!" and the crew of the Spirit of Fire transported the ships FTL core to the Apex through this same portal system. I believe that the planet was hollow, with foliage and constructs on the inside, but the shield world segment was accessed through portals leading to a mycro-dyson sphere, possibly inside the artificial sun.


    Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

    Halo: Archangel
  •  10-19-2009, 10:03 AM 752377 in reply to 752369

    Re: The Shield World

    Spartan R41:

    Oh holy crap, that makes my brain hurt. Looks like my novel is going to turn into a Charlie Foxtrot towards the end.

    Mmk, I'm mainly writing this out for my clarification, so bear with me. Anders escaped the- holy crap, I think I figured something out. Okay, once more, bear with me.

    The Unknown Forerunner planet had a very high level Flood infestation on the planet's surface. The Spirit of Fire traveled into the "portal," and arived inside the planet. So somehow, the Forerunner's were able to either hollow out the planet, or they created an artificial sphere world, with a protected interior. However, I don't think this was the Shield World.

    On the inside of the planet, there was the portal system. Anders escaped the Apex by saying "Surface!" and the crew of the Spirit of Fire transported the ships FTL core to the Apex through this same portal system. I believe that the planet was hollow, with foliage and constructs on the inside, but the shield world segment was accessed through portals leading to a mycro-dyson sphere, possibly inside the artificial sun.



    Except for the micro dyson sphere stuff your 100% right

    Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

    wolver frog
    It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

    The Covenant eat planets.
  •  10-19-2009, 10:07 AM 752379 in reply to 752377

    Re: The Shield World

    Why would the micro/dyson sphere theory be wrong? There are three separate areas that are visited on the unknown planet-

    1. The heavily infested surface
    2. The fertile, foliage and Forerunner ruin covered "surface" on the interior of the planet
    3. The Apex.

    The Apex is possibly a separate, third area because Anders escapes by saying "surface," and teleporting out. She wouldn't have gone to the planet surface, as it was heavily infested by the Flood, and she met up with the Spirit of Fire - who was inside the planet.

    So how do you figure my theory on the third mycro/dyson sphere area would be incorrect?


    Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

    Halo: Archangel
  •  10-19-2009, 11:03 AM 752403 in reply to 752379

    Re: The Shield World

    Spartan R41:

    Why would the micro/dyson sphere theory be wrong? There are three separate areas that are visited on the unknown planet-

    1. The heavily infested surface
    2. The fertile, foliage and Forerunner ruin covered "surface" on the interior of the planet
    3. The Apex.

    The Apex is possibly a separate, third area because Anders escapes by saying "surface," and teleporting out. She wouldn't have gone to the planet surface, as it was heavily infested by the Flood, and she met up with the Spirit of Fire - who was inside the planet.

    So how do you figure my theory on the third mycro/dyson sphere area would be incorrect?



    because onyx is a shield world and those trapped cant get out but are still alive on the inside once onyx blows up,

    While the world in halo wars nothing has lived once it blew up into dust so it was'nt a sheild world as we know it, its more of a port for dreadnoughts not to escape the halo array so there would'nt be a micro-dyson sphere, asfar as i can tell shield worlds are made up of trillions of sentinels because they are not affected by the array and destroy the flood so they where a perfect way to build a shield world.

    Why the halo wars one only had a cleanser to clean the battleships of the flood because there was a shell then an inner planet not trillions of sentinels

    Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

    wolver frog
    It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

    The Covenant eat planets.
  •  10-19-2009, 11:14 AM 752405 in reply to 752403

    Re: The Shield World

    Paulus Magintie:

    because onyx is a shield world and those trapped cant get out but are still alive on the inside once onyx blows up,

    While the world in halo wars nothing has lived once it blew up into dust so it was'nt a sheild world as we know it, its more of a port for dreadnoughts not to escape the halo array so there would'nt be a micro-dyson sphere, asfar as i can tell shield worlds are made up of trillions of sentinels because they are not affected by the array and destroy the flood so they where a perfect way to build a shield world.

    Why the halo wars one only had a cleanser to clean the battleships of the flood because there was a shell then an inner planet not trillions of sentinels

    To address the bolded segments.

    • Onyx is A shield world, it doesn't mean that's what they all have to be like. Even on Onyx, the physical planet wasn't the "shield," that was accessed through a teleportation system. If the unknown Forerunner planet is indeed a shield world via the teleport systems, then Forge - who might possibly be alive with this theory - would be unable to leave. The "Archangel" (as I call them) fleet would also be unable to leave, if they survived the explosion as well.
    • The planet in Halo Wars wasn't a Shield World as we know it; that's what makes this a theory.
    • That was Onyx, not this planet. The basis could be that they're artificial, in which case both qualify. Onyx was made up of an unimaginable number of Sentinels, and this planet was hollow; or a spherical version of the Halo rings.
    So again, I ask; why can't the unknown planet be a Shield World?

    Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

    Halo: Archangel
  •  10-19-2009, 11:32 AM 752409 in reply to 752405

    Re: The Shield World

    Spartan R41:

    Paulus Magintie:

    because onyx is a shield world and those trapped cant get out but are still alive on the inside once onyx blows up,

    While the world in halo wars nothing has lived once it blew up into dust so it was'nt a sheild world as we know it, its more of a port for dreadnoughts not to escape the halo array so there would'nt be a micro-dyson sphere, asfar as i can tell shield worlds are made up of trillions of sentinels because they are not affected by the array and destroy the flood so they where a perfect way to build a shield world.

    Why the halo wars one only had a cleanser to clean the battleships of the flood because there was a shell then an inner planet not trillions of sentinels

    To address the bolded segments.

    • Onyx is A shield world, it doesn't mean that's what they all have to be like. Even on Onyx, the physical planet wasn't the "shield," that was accessed through a teleportation system. If the unknown Forerunner planet is indeed a shield world via the teleport systems, then Forge - who might possibly be alive with this theory - would be unable to leave. The "Archangel" (as I call them) fleet would also be unable to leave, if they survived the explosion as well.
    • The planet in Halo Wars wasn't a Shield World as we know it; that's what makes this a theory.
    • That was Onyx, not this planet. The basis could be that they're artificial, in which case both qualify. Onyx was made up of an unimaginable number of Sentinels, and this planet was hollow; or a spherical version of the Halo rings.
    So again, I ask; why can't the unknown planet be a Shield World?


    Because of the description of Onyx would stay the same though out other shield worlds, why have 1 built differently than the rest or build hundreds differently it makes no sense,

    After all the halo's where the same but granted they had different environments but had 2 purposes, to destroy sentient life and to research the flood.

    so they where built the same so the chances of the shield world would be the same throughout each one,

    The one in halo wars is more like a port for the dreadnoughts like i said and the outer crust is to hide and protect the inside from the flood and forge was right next to the FTL drive so the chances of him escaping would be 0% the ships where also destroyed in the explosion so they could'nt be used,

    Also as far as we no the sentinels opened onyx's dyson sphere which they couldn't escape from, while the unknown planet had an entrance under the water and they easily got out.

    One is used as a port or summink to do with the military of the forerunner

    While one was built to protect life from the halo array

    And since nobody is in the "shield world" would back up my theory

    Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

    wolver frog
    It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

    The Covenant eat planets.
  •  10-19-2009, 11:59 AM 752424 in reply to 752409

    Re: The Shield World

    Paulus Magintie:

    Because of the description of Onyx would stay the same though out other shield worlds, why have 1 built differently than the rest or build hundreds differently it makes no sense,

    The only problem with this is the possibility. We don't know the previous condition of Onyx; it could have been a planet on the verge of destruction, or perhaps the planet inside the "shell" of Sentinels was used for the production of more sentinels. Perhaps Onyx wasn't a "shield world" initially, but a Sentinel Production Planet.

    Both worlds, the unknown planet and Onyx, share a portal system that leads to an area with terrain "curving up." We see this in the scenes of the Apex, and it was described in Ghosts of Onyx. Granted that the curving horizon appears when the Spirit enters the planet's inside, however the portal that both Anders and the FTL drive took had to have gone somewhere.

    It's possible that the overall make-up of the planet isn't what qualifies the Shield World, but that it leads to a secure location, namely a micro dyson sphere. This, I feel, would also qualify Earth. While the Portal led to the Ark, it was a secured, or "shield," location.


    Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

    Halo: Archangel
  •  10-19-2009, 1:16 PM 752481 in reply to 752424

    Re: The Shield World

    Spartan R41:

    Paulus Magintie:

    Because of the description of Onyx would stay the same though out other shield worlds, why have 1 built differently than the rest or build hundreds differently it makes no sense,

    The only problem with this is the possibility. We don't know the previous condition of Onyx; it could have been a planet on the verge of destruction, or perhaps the planet inside the "shell" of Sentinels was used for the production of more sentinels. Perhaps Onyx wasn't a "shield world" initially, but a Sentinel Production Planet.

    Both worlds, the unknown planet and Onyx, share a portal system that leads to an area with terrain "curving up." We see this in the scenes of the Apex, and it was described in Ghosts of Onyx. Granted that the curving horizon appears when the Spirit enters the planet's inside, however the portal that both Anders and the FTL drive took had to have gone somewhere.

    It's possible that the overall make-up of the planet isn't what qualifies the Shield World, but that it leads to a secure location, namely a micro dyson sphere. This, I feel, would also qualify Earth. While the Portal led to the Ark, it was a secured, or "shield," location.



    Well as far as i know oynx blew up and nothing was left in its place no sentinels no nothing, but to agree with you oynx had sentinel facotrys aswell as other shield worlds.

    but still the chances of forge survivng with his hand in the FTL drive is impossible no once the planet blew up the transport in the planet is destroyed even telporting, the Apex teleporter sends you around the planet as far as i know or just works for the connection between the surface and the dreadnought hanger and doubles as a prisioner holder lol.

    The ark is a shied location because its out of the milky way and i think they did consider earth a safe planet ( they built the portal on earth to keep the humans safe).

    So i know what your mean but i still disagree about the halo wars planet being a shield world it just would'nt make sense with info about oynx around

    Aloysius:If you think about it, Galactus is a giant purple alien who eats planets. Kind of like the Covenant.

    wolver frog
    It's official, straight from the mouth of an employee who works on Halo.

    The Covenant eat planets.
  •  10-25-2009, 8:28 PM 757890 in reply to 752481

    Re: The Shield World

    Hey, as a recommendation to all, go out to Borders or Barnes and Noble, and take a hour to read the Halo Encyclopedia. It was a great read for me and finally I have an opinion for this. I'm thinking that the world of Onyx was ALSO a shield world, only as a bomb shelter. Going back to Halo Wars, I think that that the world that they found was an Armory world for storage of Forerunner ships.

    Oh yea, for Everyone out there

     

    FORGE IS DEAD!!!!!!! He is not Master Chief's father, he doesn't know Sgt. Johnson. He is ash in the Halo-verse. 

  •  10-25-2009, 9:04 PM 757925 in reply to 757890

    Re: The Shield World

    Goldhawk7:

    FORGE IS DEAD!!!!!!! He is not Master Chief's father, he doesn't know Sgt. Johnson. He is ash in the Halo-verse. 

    I... never insinuated he was the Chief's dad, or the rest. I merely tossed out the possibility that he was able to make a last minute escape through a portal to the inside of a Micro Dyson sphere. But I never said it was fact.


    Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

    ODST: Hellbound

    The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

    Halo: Archangel
  •  10-26-2009, 4:28 PM 758375 in reply to 757925

    Re: The Shield World

    Spartan R41:
    Goldhawk7:

    FORGE IS DEAD!!!!!!! He is not Master Chief's father, he doesn't know Sgt. Johnson. He is ash in the Halo-verse. 

    I... never insinuated he was the Chief's dad, or the rest. I merely tossed out the possibility that he was able to make a last minute escape through a portal to the inside of a Micro Dyson sphere. But I never said it was fact.

    HE IS CHEIFS FARTHER !!! HE RAPED ANDERS AND MADE A MEGA MEGA SMART/STRONG/ARBITER-ASS-KICKING SON!!! DONT ARGUE!!!

    And yes, for anyone who dosen't understand the concept of a pisstake, f you

  •  11-16-2009, 1:10 AM 772514 in reply to 758375

    Re: The Shield World

    Maybe the Shield World in Halo Wars was one of the first attempts at a shield world or a fleet shield world.  Either..

     

    A)  They attempted a shield world by removing the flood and preventing it from entering... it didn't work so they had to come up with shield worlds like Onyx.

     or

     B)  They needed a way to preserve a fleet from the flood or maintain fleets free of flood infestation so they built a seperate shield world for ships, which is why there is a ship-wide anti-flood beam and a docking station full of ships.

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