A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

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  •  10-19-2009, 8:49 PM 752950 in reply to 752930

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    I was serious on it, though. While the Elites wouldn't touch UNSC weapons before the schism, the Brutes took them as trophies. In the level before The Great Journey in Halo 2, you'll find Brutes using Shotguns. Plus, them using Bubble Shields makes for a challenge.

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  •  10-19-2009, 8:58 PM 752954 in reply to 752950

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    Spartan R41:I was serious on it, though. While the Elites wouldn't touch UNSC weapons before the schism, the Brutes took them as trophies. In the level before The Great Journey in Halo 2, you'll find Brutes using Shotguns. Plus, them using Bubble Shields makes for a challenge.
    Oh yeah I forgot about that, thanks for reminding me.
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  •  10-20-2009, 4:47 AM 753241 in reply to 752375

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    Spartan R41:

    In the Halo 3 level "The Crow's Nest," we hear a Marine shout out "Shielding failed. They're down and charging," after the base is hit with an EMP. Several theories have been given for this, including actual metal plating, however Halo 3: ODST may have provided us with a link.

    In the Epilogue of ODST, we see the Engineer Vergil about to give Johnson - and in effect the UNSC - vital information about the Covenant, yet his aid most likely didn't end there. As we all know, Engineers are actually Forerunner artificial lifeforms. The Bubble Shield equiptment was a UNSC crafted device, however the shield dome (which is noticeably stronger than the MJOLNIR's shield system) shares the familiar hexagonal pattern that is found on Forerunner consoles (Halo Wars) and the Sentinel shields in Halo 3. What if Vergil provided the technological know-how for the UNSC to develop it's own shields?

    Now apply the Bubble Shield to a larger scale, and you've got base shielding. This is somewhat easy to do, as the base is stationary. However what's next? Possibly ship shielding, as well as personal shields for Marines and ODST.

    I wouldnt be suprised at this due to the claim that the UNSC issue equipment in Halo 3 was directly related to Covenant technology. It was based off of several different Covenant technologies (of which I do not know) or so we are told.

    However I do find an issue with this.

    The Bubble shield, while a great tool, had a short life span. How would such a technology work over such a wide spread area with out the same draw back even running off of the bases power generators?

    At best, from my point of view, they would get only a minute or two of shielding before the power drain becomes too great for the generators and it is forced to be shut down. That leaves the base vunerable.

    Even worse is it looks like the current known version of the Bubble Shield has an unstable powersource as it self destructs after about 20 seconds. If it requires such a powersource it would be a huge danger to a base.

    It is a very real possability that you are correct with this theory, however I just dont see it. To me the more likely explenation is a steath shielding that masks UNSC bases from Covenant detection equipment. 

  •  10-20-2009, 5:13 AM 753242 in reply to 752884

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    Spartan R41:
    Encrypted AI:

    the bubble sheild was covenant, your theory cannot work

    Incorrect. The Bubble Shield is introduced as being used by Spartan-117 in the rendered promotional for Halo 3. While not a strong argument, one would assume that it's UNSC> Secondly, the color (gold/yellow) is a color never used by the Covenant [primarily] in any of their shield technology; their shields tend to be blue. Thirdly, and I quote:

    Then why was it used by the covenant throughout halo 3, and 117 could have taken it from the covies. The color colors means nothing

    Halopedia - Bubble Shield:

    The Bubble Shield is an anti-artillery and personal defense device. The technology involved with it is owned by UNSC's Office of Naval Intelligence branch.

    The source for this (if you don't trust Halopedia) is this: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=765343 

    Now, this is stated as belonging to the ONI branch of the UNSC. Who was working for the UNSC, specifically ONI, around the events of Halo 2? Vergil; a rouge Huragok. It is very possible, almost to the point of certainty, that he was able to produce anoperable bubble shield (and even base shielding) within the span of a month. 

    It is possible, but brutes used it, from halopedia

    http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Bubble_Shield

    UNSC Marines are never seen deploying it during Campaign, while Brutes deploy it often. This leads it to be held as a Covenant Weapon and unlikely to be Human technology. At least one or two Brutes in a Covenant pack always have a Bubble Shield on hand. Brutes generally activate their Bubble Shields immediately when taking fire or feeling threatened.

    Unlike the multiplayer "shield doors", vehicles are able to pass through the Bubble Shield. Once inside, if the vehicle, or anything else then damages the shield generator itself on the enclosure of the bubble, the shield will then collapse on fired detonation. Upon reaching its energy limit Bubble Shields will make a high pitched sound prior to overloading and breaking.

    Its could be either

     

     



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  •  10-20-2009, 7:38 AM 753264 in reply to 753242

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    However Encrypted, at the beginning of that article, from an interview with Frankie, it said "The Bubble Shield is an anti-artillery and personal defense device. The technology involved with it is owned by UNSC's Office of Naval Intelligence branch." I trust the source far more than the tid-bit of information that someone random put up there.

    From the interview:

    "Hawaiian_Pig: Is the "bubble" grenade related to forerunner tech in any way?
    Frankie: The tech of the Bubble Shield is top secret, ONI-owned"

    Who owns ONI? UNSC.


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  •  10-21-2009, 5:09 PM 754519 in reply to 752884

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    Spartan R41:
    Encrypted AI:

    the bubble sheild was covenant, your theory cannot work

    Incorrect. The Bubble Shield is introduced as being used by Spartan-117 in the rendered promotional for Halo 3. While not a strong argument, one would assume that it's UNSC> Secondly, the color (gold/yellow) is a color never used by the Covenant [primarily] in any of their shield technology; their shields tend to be blue. Thirdly, and I quote:

    Halopedia - Bubble Shield:

    The Bubble Shield is an anti-artillery and personal defense device. The technology involved with it is owned by UNSC's Office of Naval Intelligence branch.

    The source for this (if you don't trust Halopedia) is this: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=765343 

    Now, this is stated as belonging to the ONI branch of the UNSC. Who was working for the UNSC, specifically ONI, around the events of Halo 2? Vergil; a rouge Huragok. It is very possible, almost to the point of certainty, that he was able to produce anoperable bubble shield (and even base shielding) within the span of a month. 

     

    Very good theory, im gonna have to agree with you, it seems highly possible, but i dont know, in the span of one month, it would be able to cover a large base like the one on crows nest.


    The Eayn Tribute: Read about the life of a jackal, who fights back during a rebellion against the covenant, and must struggle to remain alive as the Covenant fight the small group of rebels.

    http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/804296.aspx

  •  10-21-2009, 5:34 PM 754561 in reply to 754519

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    Keep in mind an Engineer can disassemble and reassemble a car to perfect working order in a matter of minutes.

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  •  10-21-2009, 5:51 PM 754586 in reply to 754561

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    That may be, but shielding is much harder than reassembling a car.
    The Eayn Tribute: Read about the life of a jackal, who fights back during a rebellion against the covenant, and must struggle to remain alive as the Covenant fight the small group of rebels.

    http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/804296.aspx

  •  10-21-2009, 6:26 PM 754623 in reply to 754586

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    ONI was perfectly capable of reverse engineering covenant shields. they were able to duplicate and improve upon the jackel shields as outlined in fall of reach. thats how they got the spartan shields.
  •  10-21-2009, 8:05 PM 754712 in reply to 754623

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    that was mostly done by Hasely and a lot was lost when chie-chiety (i think that was the planet) fell they lost a lot of research data. also the shields used by ships (large shields), doors, and the bubble shield is different than the personal shields of spartans and elites. the personal shield repells all objects and can have varying thickness (strength is better the thicker it is). It repels everything even the wepons they hold, but they have tuned down the power to the hands to make the shield so thin it does not effect handling.
  •  10-22-2009, 5:01 PM 755702 in reply to 752950

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    see here for explanation on how the shields in halo MIGHT work

    http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/608468.aspx

    as for why shields are not on UNSC ships yet i believe it is due to the fact that you cant shoot through the shields. an example of this is that all covenant ships when the fire their weapons open a temporary gap in the shield around the weapon they are firing.(spartans and elites dont have this problem as their weapon are outside of the shield. since a temporary whole has to be made in the shield for the ship to fire its weapon, you have to manipulate only a small section of the shield without taking down the entire shield. this is likely very hard for humans to do at the moment


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  •  10-22-2009, 5:06 PM 755718 in reply to 755702

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    quite possible
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    Death comes to those who wait too long.

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  •  10-22-2009, 5:09 PM 755734 in reply to 755718

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    What about the cut UNSC shield ship
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  •  10-22-2009, 5:09 PM 755737 in reply to 752375

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    Spartan R41:

    In the Halo 3 level "The Crow's Nest," we hear a Marine shout out "Shielding failed. They're down and charging," after the base is hit with an EMP. Several theories have been given for this, including actual metal plating, however Halo 3: ODST may have provided us with a link.

    In the Epilogue of ODST, we see the Engineer Vergil about to give Johnson - and in effect the UNSC - vital information about the Covenant, yet his aid most likely didn't end there. As we all know, Engineers are actually Forerunner artificial lifeforms. The Bubble Shield equiptment was a UNSC crafted device, however the shield dome (which is noticeably stronger than the MJOLNIR's shield system) shares the familiar hexagonal pattern that is found on Forerunner consoles (Halo Wars) and the Sentinel shields in Halo 3. What if Vergil provided the technological know-how for the UNSC to develop it's own shields?

    Now apply the Bubble Shield to a larger scale, and you've got base shielding. This is somewhat easy to do, as the base is stationary. However what's next? Possibly ship shielding, as well as personal shields for Marines and ODST.

    This wasnt the brightest of arguments anyone could make. The "sheilds" could have just been anti virus. In halo wars, if the "sheilds" could be taken down with and EMP then the UNSC would have won this war AGES ago

  •  10-22-2009, 5:09 PM 755738 in reply to 752375

    Re: A Thought On UNSC Shields *Possible Spoilers*

    Spartan R41:

    In the Halo 3 level "The Crow's Nest," we hear a Marine shout out "Shielding failed. They're down and charging," after the base is hit with an EMP. Several theories have been given for this, including actual metal plating, however Halo 3: ODST may have provided us with a link.

    In the Epilogue of ODST, we see the Engineer Vergil about to give Johnson - and in effect the UNSC - vital information about the Covenant, yet his aid most likely didn't end there. As we all know, Engineers are actually Forerunner artificial lifeforms. The Bubble Shield equiptment was a UNSC crafted device, however the shield dome (which is noticeably stronger than the MJOLNIR's shield system) shares the familiar hexagonal pattern that is found on Forerunner consoles (Halo Wars) and the Sentinel shields in Halo 3. What if Vergil provided the technological know-how for the UNSC to develop it's own shields?

    Now apply the Bubble Shield to a larger scale, and you've got base shielding. This is somewhat easy to do, as the base is stationary. However what's next? Possibly ship shielding, as well as personal shields for Marines and ODST.

    This wasnt the brightest of arguments anyone could make. The "sheilds" could have just been anti virus. In halo wars, if the "sheilds" could be taken down with and EMP then the UNSC would have won this war AGES ago

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