DFang:

fiery grave:

The trip mine might have been but the humand don't have the technology for bubble shields

Actually, the trip mine, bubble shield, and power drain were developed by ONI,  but they hadn't fully streamlined usage yet, and the brutes got hold of alot of the stuff.

Yes, in the opening cutscene for the level "Crow's Nest", a Marine says something along the lines of "Shields are down!" when the power goes out. So they did have shielding.

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ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

Spartan-Warrior:

Ok, so i watched an interview on youtube with one of the designers of Halo ODST, and he was going through some gameplay and all the differences from the original triology. In this he said "no using covenant equipment".

From watching other gameplay videos i see them using covenant weapons, covenant grenades, a banshee ... so what happened to the no use of equiptment change?

-You can no longer use equipment items. No equipment(Bubble shield, trip mine, flare, etc) whatsoever.

-You can't dual wield either.

-From what I read you can't beat enemies in a wraith to death either. Now you can only destroy them with a nade.

-No BR! The pistol is replacing the BR for the UNSC headshots weapon.

Yeah, big changes to how I'll be playing the game. 

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Think that new units/leaders/factions are possible or going to be added? Think again, read the linked thread.
http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/741500.aspx

IdenticalSean: 

-No BR! The pistol is replacing the BR for the UNSC headshots weapon.

Yeah, big changes to how I'll be playing the game. 

Same here!

Why did they have to get rid of the BR.

;__;

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iEchoic:

The last upgrade should allow them to shoot ninjas out of their flamethrowers.

GT-BaNiishED

Where did you read that the Battle Rifle was taken out?

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ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

Spartan R41:Where did you read that the Battle Rifle was taken out?

I'm trying to find the video, it was an interview with a bungie developer....I'll keep looking.

Edit: Can't find it, just do a google search and you get plenty of info. 

 http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33561434

Like that 

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Think that new units/leaders/factions are possible or going to be added? Think again, read the linked thread.
http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/741500.aspx

IdenticalSean:

Spartan-Warrior:

Ok, so i watched an interview on youtube with one of the designers of Halo ODST, and he was going through some gameplay and all the differences from the original triology. In this he said "no using covenant equipment".

From watching other gameplay videos i see them using covenant weapons, covenant grenades, a banshee ... so what happened to the no use of equiptment change?

-You can no longer use equipment items. No equipment(Bubble shield, trip mine, flare, etc) whatsoever.

-You can't dual wield either.

-From what I read you can't beat enemies in a wraith to death either. Now you can only destroy them with a nade.

-No BR! The pistol is replacing the BR for the UNSC headshots weapon.

Yeah, big changes to how I'll be playing the game. 

in other words, more like Halo CE! yippee!
oh, and the equipment button (X) was replaced with the VISR mode toggle. and correct, no BR! yippee! i stink on ice with that thing....

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New story out! Halo: Below the Brine
(it's the best story you're not reading!)

Footbutt:

IdenticalSean:

Spartan-Warrior:

Ok, so i watched an interview on youtube with one of the designers of Halo ODST, and he was going through some gameplay and all the differences from the original triology. In this he said "no using covenant equipment".

From watching other gameplay videos i see them using covenant weapons, covenant grenades, a banshee ... so what happened to the no use of equiptment change?

-You can no longer use equipment items. No equipment(Bubble shield, trip mine, flare, etc) whatsoever.

-You can't dual wield either.

-From what I read you can't beat enemies in a wraith to death either. Now you can only destroy them with a nade.

-No BR! The pistol is replacing the BR for the UNSC headshots weapon.

Yeah, big changes to how I'll be playing the game. 

in other words, more like Halo CE! yippee!
oh, and the equipment button (X) was replaced with the VISR mode toggle. and correct, no BR! yippee! i stink on ice with that thing....

Yeah, I noticed this

Halo CE: Combat, weapons, health system, no jacking(but still boarding and destroying) vehicles.

Halo 2: Setting, no equipment

Halo 3: Graphics, enemies, vehicles...too tired to keep remembering these...

Anyways, yeah I broke down the entire series the other day and compared them to ODST, most of the things ODST had were on my "AWESOME FEATURES!!!" list...

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Think that new units/leaders/factions are possible or going to be added? Think again, read the linked thread.
http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/741500.aspx

That's exactly what Joseph Staten said they were aiming for; all the "awesome" factors of Halo without the episodic "Space Opera". I still feel that the Halo Trilogy was very good, but I'm hoping very much that ODST is a good wrap-up of all those features that I loved. I'm sure it will be.

Something that I did think of in argument to the "ODST is an expansion pack" was this. And I beg everyone to consider it as a valid argument, and not just counter-ranting. Halo 3: ODST, while having the name "Halo 3" does not take place during the events of Halo 3 at all, but rather during the events of Halo 2. The only ties it has to Halo 3 are the graphics, a moderate tie to gameplay, and Johnson (appearance wise) via Firefight. So the question is; if Halo 3: ODST takes place before Halo 3, why is it not considered an expansion pack for Halo 2, as it expands on nothing from Halo 3?

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ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

Spartan R41:

That's exactly what Joseph Staten said they were aiming for; all the "awesome" factors of Halo without the episodic "Space Opera". I still feel that the Halo Trilogy was very good, but I'm hoping very much that ODST is a good wrap-up of all those features that I loved. I'm sure it will be.

Something that I did think of in argument to the "ODST is an expansion pack" was this. And I beg everyone to consider it as a valid argument, and not just counter-ranting. Halo 3: ODST, while having the name "Halo 3" does not take place during the events of Halo 3 at all, but rather during the events of Halo 2. The only ties it has to Halo 3 are the graphics, a moderate tie to gameplay, and Johnson (appearance wise) via Firefight. So the question is; if Halo 3: ODST takes place before Halo 3, why is it not considered an expansion pack for Halo 2, as it expands on nothing from Halo 3?

 It's built in the Halo 3 engine.....That's the reason. Every one knows when it takes place, and the game itself should make that painfully clear in the opening cutscene when Regret rips into slipspace. But to make it a "Halo 2 Expansion" they would've used the Halo 2 engine... 

But simply using the engine isn't what defines an expansion. An expansion is as the name implies; something that expands on the storyline or gameplay of the named game- in this case Halo 3. However ODST has nothing to do with the storyline or gameplay of Halo 3, as the Rookie operates much differently than the Master Chief.

• None of the characters from Halo 3 appear in the story of ODST.
• Several animations (running, crouching, etc) are different
• Revert to Halo: Combat Evolved styled gameplay: falling damage, manual health recovery, no dual wielding, etc.
• Complete lack of radar in the HUD
• Overview map of New Mombasa
• Interactive Squad-Comm chatter. (i.e. alerting to enemies, reacting to headshots, melee, etc)
  
• Storyline having nothing to do with the Halo rings, but rather the liberation of New Mombasa and reunion with the squad
• Lack (assumedly) of Spartan-II soldiers
• Lack of Sangheili warriors.
• Inability to "jack" (allegedly) vehicles
• Higher detail to building "Structure" for the sake of proper VISR appearance (i.e. a building has countours, and is no longer a shaded box)
  

I mean, I could go on an on. Yes, ODST was built on the Halo 3 engine. But two siblings with the same genetic parents are still very, very different. The fact that ODST was built with the Halo 3 engine and the graphics are about all the game has in common with Halo 3.

 

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Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

Spartan R41:

But simply using the engine isn't what defines an expansion. An expansion is as the name implies; something that expands on the storyline or gameplay of the named game- in this case Halo 3. However ODST has nothing to do with the storyline or gameplay of Halo 3, as the Rookie operates much differently than the Master Chief.

• None of the characters from Halo 3 appear in the story of ODST.
• Several animations (running, crouching, etc) are different
• Revert to Halo: Combat Evolved styled gameplay: falling damage, manual health recovery, no dual wielding, etc.
• Complete lack of radar in the HUD
• Overview map of New Mombasa
• Interactive Squad-Comm chatter. (i.e. alerting to enemies, reacting to headshots, melee, etc)
  
• Storyline having nothing to do with the Halo rings, but rather the liberation of New Mombasa and reunion with the squad
• Lack (assumedly) of Spartan-II soldiers
• Lack of Sangheili warriors.
• Inability to "jack" (allegedly) vehicles
• Higher detail to building "Structure" for the sake of proper VISR appearance (i.e. a building has countours, and is no longer a shaded box)
  

I mean, I could go on an on. Yes, ODST was built on the Halo 3 engine. But two siblings with the same genetic parents are still very, very different. The fact that ODST was built with the Halo 3 engine and the graphics are about all the game has in common with Halo 3.

 

i hear you loud and clear.

although bullet point #7 remains to be seen....
in a glimpse of the second ViDoc, where they're fighting on the bridge, the building in the backgound (sniper tower in the foreground) is an ONI building. now i have NOT been trolling, looking for spoilers, but when i saw that i thought there could be a real depth to this plot.
dark secrets of ONI.

*rubs hands together in anticipation*

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New story out! Halo: Below the Brine
(it's the best story you're not reading!)

Well, of course it will be tied in with the Haloverse. I wasn't implying that it wasn't. What I meant is that it will (most likely) have nothing to do with the Halo rings. I forget where it was stated, but I'm almost 98% certain that it's entirely in New Mombasa.

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Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

The BR really exposed the MLGeek part of Halo.  Of course Bungie no longer wants it.  It tied the entire game to one weapon.  It is utter stupidity that you have to practice hard with one weapon to be any good in matchmaking.

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Spartan R41:

But simply using the engine isn't what defines an expansion. An expansion is as the name implies; something that expands on the storyline or gameplay of the named game- in this case Halo 3. However ODST has nothing to do with the storyline or gameplay of Halo 3, as the Rookie operates much differently than the Master Chief.

• None of the characters from Halo 3 appear in the story of ODST.
• Several animations (running, crouching, etc) are different
• Revert to Halo: Combat Evolved styled gameplay: falling damage, manual health recovery, no dual wielding, etc.
• Complete lack of radar in the HUD
• Overview map of New Mombasa
• Interactive Squad-Comm chatter. (i.e. alerting to enemies, reacting to headshots, melee, etc)
  
• Storyline having nothing to do with the Halo rings, but rather the liberation of New Mombasa and reunion with the squad
• Lack (assumedly) of Spartan-II soldiers
• Lack of Sangheili warriors.
• Inability to "jack" (allegedly) vehicles
• Higher detail to building "Structure" for the sake of proper VISR appearance (i.e. a building has countours, and is no longer a shaded box)
  

I mean, I could go on an on. Yes, ODST was built on the Halo 3 engine. But two siblings with the same genetic parents are still very, very different. The fact that ODST was built with the Halo 3 engine and the graphics are about all the game has in common with Halo 3.

 

This could add to the story of H3 in the fact that New Mombasa was where the covanant found the object and the plot could greatly effect why the planet was the way it was when MC arrived.

New Mombasa was not where the Ark was. The Ark was 15km East of Voi, which was 185km from New Mombasa. That's a ways away from New Mombasa, actually. Also, in the OXM ODST editions, it says that they had to alter the engine, so it is it's own game.I'll find a direct quote for that when I can.

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Current Fan Fictions in the Library:

ODST: Hellbound

The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel