Spartans or ODSTs

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  •  09-13-2009, 5:55 PM 725652 in reply to 725650

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    So in the future they have cameras to record a kill. Everyone has cameras
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  •  09-13-2009, 5:58 PM 725660 in reply to 725652

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    No, they dont.

    Spartans do however.

    Please tell me how to confirm a kill, in real life.

    ...

    You dont know how.


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  •  09-13-2009, 6:05 PM 725670 in reply to 725660

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    Baniished:

    No, they dont.

    Spartans do however.

    Please tell me how to confirm a kill, in real life.

    ...

    You dont know how.

    This is 500 years into the future don't you think they would have camera. Jenkins had a camera he was a marine not even an ODST i have proof of how they record their kills you do not you are just arguing bout how to confirm a kill. Well 500 years into the future everyone has cameras. Still it doesn't matter they still have more confirmed kills then all those soilders thats no error in talling kills. That must mean they all have much more kills. It doesn't matter if they got their kills recorded spartans are still better just because they cost more, but they are better for humanity. If it wasn't for the program the UNSC would of lost a lot more ground engagments. Plus the human race and the covenant and all sentiant life would end because the flood would have broken out of delta halo and took over everything. If there was no master chief to stop them UNSC would of died instead of won the war. Spartans cost way more, don't die as often and last a lot longer.
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  •  09-13-2009, 6:07 PM 725671 in reply to 725639

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

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  •  09-13-2009, 6:07 PM 725672 in reply to 725639

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    sp4rt4n:
    Lyonpride:

    Im like that one guy in the books who hates spartans.

    I dont hate spartans, but ODSTs beat spartans in numbers.

    There were what only 33 spartans or something and like 29 died?

    Quoted from Halopedia

    "The Spartan Laser is currently the most expensive weapon to produce known. It costs 218,000.00 cR, more than the cost of four fully armed Warthogs, 134 MA5B Assault Rifles, or over 7,266 M9 Fragmentation Grenades."

    Now guess how much one spartan is?

    With all that money you could easily do much more.

    How good is that spartan lazer able to rip through enemy armor with ease. So what if the spartans cost a lot they are still worth making. ODSTs die to easy. If a spartan dies i am sure that he had a kill count more than any ODST. Spartans had more confirmed kills than all three divisions of ODST. Thats sad 33 of them have more kills than the 50,000 ODSTs. Exactly so you tell me whats a waste of money.

    You must have skimed through my post...

     I meant that if spartans were never made, the money spent on them could have been directed towards

     new weapons, new tech, or a wide variety of other things to make ODSTs better.

    The "Confirmed" kill count is broken and doesnt mean squat,the UNSC cheats for the spartans so that morale wont go down.

    When you take away the 33 units you could almost make the 50,000 units twice as good.


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  •  09-13-2009, 6:15 PM 725674 in reply to 725672

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    Lyonpride:
    sp4rt4n:
    Lyonpride:

    Im like that one guy in the books who hates spartans.

    I dont hate spartans, but ODSTs beat spartans in numbers.

    There were what only 33 spartans or something and like 29 died?

    Quoted from Halopedia

    "The Spartan Laser is currently the most expensive weapon to produce known. It costs 218,000.00 cR, more than the cost of four fully armed Warthogs, 134 MA5B Assault Rifles, or over 7,266 M9 Fragmentation Grenades."

    Now guess how much one spartan is?

    With all that money you could easily do much more.

    How good is that spartan lazer able to rip through enemy armor with ease. So what if the spartans cost a lot they are still worth making. ODSTs die to easy. If a spartan dies i am sure that he had a kill count more than any ODST. Spartans had more confirmed kills than all three divisions of ODST. Thats sad 33 of them have more kills than the 50,000 ODSTs. Exactly so you tell me whats a waste of money.

    You must have skimed through my post... I meant that if spartans were never made, the money spent on them could have been directed towards

    new weapons, new tech, or a wide variety of other things to make ODSTs better. The "Confirmed" kill count is broken and doesnt mean squat,

    the UNSC cheats for the spartans so that morale wont go down. When you take away the 33 units you could almost make the 50,000

    units twice as good.

    So basically you would make ODST as good as spartans with shielding aguments and everything else. That would cost ten fold the spartan program. Besides spartans weren't even suppose to fight the covenant. The program would have given the UNSCa good what 10 extra ships that would lose to 3 or 4 covenant ships. I think it would just have been a waste of money if they did not make the spartans. They would of just tried to make more ships that would of done nothing. Anyway somewhere among the line they would see how bad the UNSC was doing and still make some sort of super soilders. Like super ODST's and they would still make way less. Plus if they did try to agument the ODST that would kill like all of them. Spartans had special genetic requirments that made them better then the average humans. So there you have it either way if spartans were not made the covenant would of won more ground engaments, also the war. Then the flood would have came and finished off everyone else. If it wasn't for spartans their would not have been a happy ending for halo 1,2,and 3. UNSC would of lost

    No spartans= everyone dies flood win, forerunners whole plan to save everyone gone.

    Spartans= UNSC and humanity survives, elites join UNSC, flood loses, covenant break apart. All of this because of 33 super soilders

    Lyon you can have all your ODST they still would never ever match up to spartans


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  •  09-13-2009, 6:16 PM 725675 in reply to 725672

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    Without Spartans, humanity would have been destroyed. It seems Spartans were the ones ending the war, while ODSTs were the meatshields slowing down the war.
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  •  09-13-2009, 6:26 PM 725685 in reply to 725675

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    My friend still thinks ODSTs are superior just because theres more of them. Spartans helped win the war if it wasn't for them lyon all your precious ODSTs would have been either glassed or flood food

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  •  09-13-2009, 6:28 PM 725689 in reply to 725560

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    Spartan 117. He is the force of 117 Chuck Norris's and pretty much destroyed all of the covenant and flood almost on his own.

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  •  09-13-2009, 6:29 PM 725691 in reply to 725674

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    sp4rt4n:
    Lyonpride:
    sp4rt4n:
    Lyonpride:

    Im like that one guy in the books who hates spartans.

    I dont hate spartans, but ODSTs beat spartans in numbers.

    There were what only 33 spartans or something and like 29 died?

    Quoted from Halopedia

    "The Spartan Laser is currently the most expensive weapon to produce known. It costs 218,000.00 cR, more than the cost of four fully armed Warthogs, 134 MA5B Assault Rifles, or over 7,266 M9 Fragmentation Grenades."

    Now guess how much one spartan is?

    With all that money you could easily do much more.

    How good is that spartan lazer able to rip through enemy armor with ease. So what if the spartans cost a lot they are still worth making. ODSTs die to easy. If a spartan dies i am sure that he had a kill count more than any ODST. Spartans had more confirmed kills than all three divisions of ODST. Thats sad 33 of them have more kills than the 50,000 ODSTs. Exactly so you tell me whats a waste of money.

    You must have skimed through my post... I meant that if spartans were never made, the money spent on them could have been directed towards

    new weapons, new tech, or a wide variety of other things to make ODSTs better. The "Confirmed" kill count is broken and doesnt mean squat,

    the UNSC cheats for the spartans so that morale wont go down. When you take away the 33 units you could almost make the 50,000

    units twice as good.

    So basically you would make ODST as good as spartans with shielding aguments and everything else. That would cost ten fold the spartan program. Besides spartans weren't even suppose to fight the covenant. The program would have given the UNSCa good what 10 extra ships that would lose to 3 or 4 covenant ships. I think it would just have been a waste of money if they did not make the spartans. They would of just tried to make more ships that would of done nothing. Anyway somewhere among the line they would see how bad the UNSC was doing and still make some sort of super soilders. Like super ODST's and they would still make way less. Plus if they did try to agument the ODST that would kill like all of them. Spartans had special genetic requirments that made them better then the average humans. So there you have it either way if spartans were not made the covenant would of won more ground engaments, also the war. Then the flood would have came and finished off everyone else. If it wasn't for spartans their would not have been a happy ending for halo 1,2,and 3. UNSC would of lost

    No spartans= everyone dies flood win, forerunners whole plan to save everyone gone.

    Spartans= UNSC and humanity survives, elites join UNSC, flood loses, covenant break apart. All of this because of 33 super soilders

    Lyon you can have all your ODST they still would never ever match up to spartans

    I never once said anything about agumenting the ODSTs, I said weapons and tech...

    I also noticed you didnt say anything about the kill count, so I guess I won that.

    Honestly we did win because of the spartans, however whos to say we wouldnt have if we upgraded ODSTs?

    You?...you have the right to opinion, but your opinion is not fact.

    I gave my opinion in which is better, and your trying to argue over my opinion?

    Im a little rusty of the halo storyline but the elites didnt join us because of spartans they joined because the brutes were taking over er sumtin.

     


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  •  09-13-2009, 7:21 PM 725719 in reply to 725691

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    no elites waer scered of flasmthrowers and wanned portection forum the tonks.

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  •  09-13-2009, 7:27 PM 725726 in reply to 725691

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    Lyonpride:
    sp4rt4n:
    Lyonpride:
    sp4rt4n:
    Lyonpride:

    Im like that one guy in the books who hates spartans.

    I dont hate spartans, but ODSTs beat spartans in numbers.

    There were what only 33 spartans or something and like 29 died?

    Quoted from Halopedia

    "The Spartan Laser is currently the most expensive weapon to produce known. It costs 218,000.00 cR, more than the cost of four fully armed Warthogs, 134 MA5B Assault Rifles, or over 7,266 M9 Fragmentation Grenades."

    Now guess how much one spartan is?

    With all that money you could easily do much more.

    How good is that spartan lazer able to rip through enemy armor with ease. So what if the spartans cost a lot they are still worth making. ODSTs die to easy. If a spartan dies i am sure that he had a kill count more than any ODST. Spartans had more confirmed kills than all three divisions of ODST. Thats sad 33 of them have more kills than the 50,000 ODSTs. Exactly so you tell me whats a waste of money.

    You must have skimed through my post... I meant that if spartans were never made, the money spent on them could have been directed towards

    new weapons, new tech, or a wide variety of other things to make ODSTs better. The "Confirmed" kill count is broken and doesnt mean squat,

    the UNSC cheats for the spartans so that morale wont go down. When you take away the 33 units you could almost make the 50,000

    units twice as good.

    So basically you would make ODST as good as spartans with shielding aguments and everything else. That would cost ten fold the spartan program. Besides spartans weren't even suppose to fight the covenant. The program would have given the UNSCa good what 10 extra ships that would lose to 3 or 4 covenant ships. I think it would just have been a waste of money if they did not make the spartans. They would of just tried to make more ships that would of done nothing. Anyway somewhere among the line they would see how bad the UNSC was doing and still make some sort of super soilders. Like super ODST's and they would still make way less. Plus if they did try to agument the ODST that would kill like all of them. Spartans had special genetic requirments that made them better then the average humans. So there you have it either way if spartans were not made the covenant would of won more ground engaments, also the war. Then the flood would have came and finished off everyone else. If it wasn't for spartans their would not have been a happy ending for halo 1,2,and 3. UNSC would of lost

    No spartans= everyone dies flood win, forerunners whole plan to save everyone gone.

    Spartans= UNSC and humanity survives, elites join UNSC, flood loses, covenant break apart. All of this because of 33 super soilders

    Lyon you can have all your ODST they still would never ever match up to spartans

    I never once said anything about agumenting the ODSTs, I said weapons and tech...

    I also noticed you didnt say anything about the kill count, so I guess I won that.

    Honestly we did win because of the spartans, however whos to say we wouldnt have if we upgraded ODSTs?

    You?...you have the right to opinion, but your opinion is not fact.

    I gave my opinion in which is better, and your trying to argue over my opinion?

    Im a little rusty of the halo storyline but the elites didnt join us because of spartans they joined because the brutes were taking over er sumtin.

     

    So your saying you would of gave ODSTs spartan armor or something like that, then it would kill them because they cannot even use them. I never said this was opinion based thing did i it was all based on facts. Elites left because master chief killed the Regret and that was enough for truth to replace the elites with brutes because of MC, so proved you wrong there.

    If you did not agument the ODST then whats the point of trying to give them better armor because they do not have the physical requirenments. so thats out.

    One opinion cannot be better than another because they are opinions *facepalm*

    Again spartans kill count dominated the ODSTs you did not win crap. ODST could not kill sh*t.

    Your ODSTs would not have won the war because they first cannot wear their awesome armor because their spineless wuss bags. Second they are not even close to being skilled as spartans and you would just be wasting time and money to give them armor that they cannot where and even if they could would be slower than snails. *facepalm*

    You did not win crap this is not an opinion this is a fact proven in the halo universe

    SPARTAN II program> ODSTs by far.


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  •  09-13-2009, 7:31 PM 725727 in reply to 725566

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    Distant Storm:

    This is something I don't get. If Humanity is at stake, why care about money? Screw the money......

    Back on-topic. SPARTANS FTW! Although ODSTs are pretty cool..... I do think the female ODST helmet looks pretty nice, almost like the recon armor helmet.

    Its the money to make production of spartans or battle cruisers. And they needed battle cruisers more.


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  •  09-13-2009, 7:35 PM 725729 in reply to 725727

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    WWMC:
    Distant Storm:

    This is something I don't get. If Humanity is at stake, why care about money? Screw the money......

    Back on-topic. SPARTANS FTW! Although ODSTs are pretty cool..... I do think the female ODST helmet looks pretty nice, almost like the recon armor helmet.

    Its the money to make production of spartans or battle cruisers. And they needed battle cruisers more.

    so than you would want more cruisors?
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  •  09-13-2009, 7:38 PM 725733 in reply to 725729

    Re: Spartans or ODSTs

    It wouldnt matter. They had enough spartans, and the spartans were narrowed down to the elite of the elite of the elite etc. But that was before the human covenant war. So they weren't looking for more cruisers. But once it started thats when they had to debate battle cruisers> spartans.
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