Ad4m H:Actually scarabs would fill the population up to 40, but the most you can get is 50. If you were able to get 60 you could make 3 scarabs. Still 10 engineers is an alright amount

My bad, it is 50. But yes, 10 Engineers fully upgraded are a healing splurge. 

DA MEXIKNS:

the Oceanborn:

First and foremost; 2 Scarabs would fill 40/60 population for a Covenant player.This leaves room for 20 Engineers, 10 each.

There's nothing that ever said that a Spartan Lazer was too heavy for a Spartan. It weighs 20.4kg (45lb). A Marine could lift it.

Hm, are you sure, i swear to God i remember someone talking about it, and a quote from the book was "a huge weapon, only the strongest of spartans could hold it" or something along those lines... 

I seriously doubt that a Spartan would have trouble lifting something that weighs 45lb, but I'll look into it further.

Spartan Shinobi:

lonedog:

no that leaves them 10 units since covenant max is 50 not 40, also infantry die the fastest against scarab, its your fault for spamming.  I find it funny that most people fight with cutter only fight with odst I just use 20 flamers and get them ranked 3 and destroy their bases with grizzlies, and hornets  

Right because Cutter can totally build Grizzlies.

He never specifically said that he used Cutter, just that he laughs at people who solely use ODST. If he uses Grizzly tanks, then one would assume he's using Forge.

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the Oceanborn:

Ad4m H:Actually scarabs would fill the population up to 40, but the most you can get is 50. If you were able to get 60 you could make 3 scarabs. Still 10 engineers is an alright amount

My bad, it is 50. But yes, 10 Engineers fully upgraded are a healing splurge. 

DA MEXIKNS:

the Oceanborn:

First and foremost; 2 Scarabs would fill 40/60 population for a Covenant player.This leaves room for 20 Engineers, 10 each.

There's nothing that ever said that a Spartan Lazer was too heavy for a Spartan. It weighs 20.4kg (45lb). A Marine could lift it.

Hm, are you sure, i swear to God i remember someone talking about it, and a quote from the book was "a huge weapon, only the strongest of spartans could hold it" or something along those lines... 

I seriously doubt that a Spartan would have trouble lifting something that weighs 45lb, but I'll look into it further.

Spartan Shinobi:

lonedog:

no that leaves them 10 units since covenant max is 50 not 40, also infantry die the fastest against scarab, its your fault for spamming.  I find it funny that most people fight with cutter only fight with odst I just use 20 flamers and get them ranked 3 and destroy their bases with grizzlies, and hornets  

Right because Cutter can totally build Grizzlies.

He never specifically said that he used Cutter, just that he laughs at people who solely use ODST. If he uses Grizzly tanks, then one would assume he's using Forge.

 

Are you always on these forums?  And do you always have an answer, even if it's wrong?

 

If the OP let the opponent build up enough to build two Scarabs, then it's become a giant shite hole right there.  Then again in the games I play there's room for two Scarabs and then some. Wraiths, Locusts, Hunters or 20-30 Grunt Squads could stop close to anything but a Leader Rush.

Anyway, back to the ODSTs, they would've done damage. At least a centimeters worth of pixels on screen, maybe 5mm, but that's alot for a Scarab. He should've MACed his Covie a** right there and then, that woulda worked.

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PohTayToez:

First of all, Anders is a techer, you must hit her early and often.

Out of context= Epic lol

This whole post is stupid, odst vs scarab. ODST used properly ie 40 units, would take down a scarab easily, tapping y to fire off 40 sets of rockets would drop a scarab in about 20 secs. Also who ever said humans could not carry a spartan laser obviously has not played Halo 3 as the good sgt(RIP lol) has one.

 

most pointless post

 ******noob*******alert*****we have a noob alert*******man all stations *******noob alert********

The Rogue:

the Oceanborn:

Ad4m H:Actually scarabs would fill the population up to 40, but the most you can get is 50. If you were able to get 60 you could make 3 scarabs. Still 10 engineers is an alright amount

My bad, it is 50. But yes, 10 Engineers fully upgraded are a healing splurge. 

DA MEXIKNS:

the Oceanborn:

First and foremost; 2 Scarabs would fill 40/60 population for a Covenant player.This leaves room for 20 Engineers, 10 each.

There's nothing that ever said that a Spartan Lazer was too heavy for a Spartan. It weighs 20.4kg (45lb). A Marine could lift it.

Hm, are you sure, i swear to God i remember someone talking about it, and a quote from the book was "a huge weapon, only the strongest of spartans could hold it" or something along those lines... 

I seriously doubt that a Spartan would have trouble lifting something that weighs 45lb, but I'll look into it further.

Spartan Shinobi:

lonedog:

no that leaves them 10 units since covenant max is 50 not 40, also infantry die the fastest against scarab, its your fault for spamming.  I find it funny that most people fight with cutter only fight with odst I just use 20 flamers and get them ranked 3 and destroy their bases with grizzlies, and hornets  

Right because Cutter can totally build Grizzlies.

He never specifically said that he used Cutter, just that he laughs at people who solely use ODST. If he uses Grizzly tanks, then one would assume he's using Forge.

 

Are you always on these forums?  And do you always have an answer, even if it's wrong?

I'm sorry, what? Where in the above post am I wrong? I realized I was wrong about the population and corrected it. I told MEXIKINS that I would search more into the Spartan Laser debate, but that it weighs 45 pounds. And I point out that lonedog jumped to conclusions; which he kind of did.

 

Oh wait, I get it. All the "newer" people don't like me because I'm hard on new people who post stupid stuff- right? Oh d@mn, better call whine-one-one and get the Waaambulance over here...

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The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

*ahem*  Scarab = Mac > ODST

Why waste your entire Unit cap and money on ODST's for a shot at a scarab, when you can turn it into a crater with your cannon? You should have the fully upgraded Mac if you opponent manages to squeeze out a scarab anyway.

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the Oceanborn:

I'm sorry, what? Where in the above post am I wrong? I realized I was wrong about the population and corrected it. I told MEXIKINS that I would search more into the Spartan Laser debate, but that it weighs 45 pounds. And I point out that lonedog jumped to conclusions; which he kind of did.

 

wait where did i jump, your post you build 40 which means you had other options to build other units, i was pointing out that their other units you have that would do more damage then odst.  out of all super units odst is very easiest to counter.  and i wasn't referring to u but most of all cutters I fought only build two units elphents and odst. 

and the mac cannon is only leader weapon that can destroy scarab fully upgraded. 

scarab's cant upgrade ?

lonedog:

the Oceanborn:

I'm sorry, what? Where in the above post am I wrong? I realized I was wrong about the population and corrected it. I told MEXIKINS that I would search more into the Spartan Laser debate, but that it weighs 45 pounds. And I point out that lonedog jumped to conclusions; which he kind of did.

 

wait where did i jump, your post you build 40 which means you had other options to build other units, i was pointing out that their other units you have that would do more damage then odst.  out of all super units odst is very easiest to counter.  and i wasn't referring to u but most of all cutters I fought only build two units elphents and odst. 

and the mac cannon is only leader weapon that can destroy scarab fully upgraded. 

Argh, my bad again. It was Spartan Shinobi that jumped saying Cutter can't build Grizzlies. You were the one that never specifically said you weren't playing Forge. You're not doing anything wrong, my bad.

The inherent problem with pyramid quoting... It gets so *** confusing.

Also, a fully upgraded Carpet Bomb absolutely shreds a Scarab. Saved my bacon on Mission 15.

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The Interrogation of Ellen Anders

Halo: Archangel

Unskilledjt:i was play a freindly game with some other person online the other day. He was the Arbitar and i was Captian Cutter (or the old fart). i upgraded my infantry all the way to get ODST when i spawnd 40/40 from the barracks i then attacked his base. But when i get there i saw that he had 2 scarabs. That seemend normal. but when i used my special for them to damage the scarab i did absoulty no damage. i think the odst should have one more upgrade.... chain gun. every sparten gets one if you upgrade it once. but the ODST only get medics (which only heal the group after the fighting is done) and to ability to be shot down to any area that you have lit up on the map. ODST are some of the greatest infintary units in halo wars but why do they do absoultly no damage to vehical? with 40/40 units they should at least weaken it. if it wasnt for the MAC blast we would have a slaughtered army and a blown up base. post any thing you want to agree or disagree on this topic.

Nonesense!, All scarabs can be wiped off the face of the Earth by simply landing the ODST's BEHIND the scarabs. If you land the ODST's infront then it will wipe you out. No upgrades are necessary. They are almost indestructible.........NOT

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ARBITER, trust me here, he won't do it.

I also disagree.  (shouldn't spam 40 ODST's anyway).

Scarabs don't really have a good use. I used to think that they could be useful after a big battle o quickly fill up your pop limit and charge back in. Unfortunately they build so slowly that by the time you build to scarabs even 1 per base ad assuming you have at least 2 bases, the enemy will have a huge force as well.

I have sevral times vs the AI done an army of 40 ODST vs a Scarab, all 40 rockets takes out about 8/10ths of its health and it works well because theres about 200 shotguns shooting it and it typicaly takes about 15-20 seconds for it to die at that point. And vs double Scarabs Mac one to death rocket the other. From all the times I have done this...   I goof of alot vs the AI...   You should have won completely. Even with the Arbiter there one D-bomb and all those ODSTS would have a field day pumping him full of lead. Even with the Scarabs shooting you if you fire your rockets then use Mac in under 8 seconds you should if any lost only three units, If the Arbiter was Raging which is likely...  maybe 10 or so which you wouldnt really need to kill a Rageless Arbiter anyways.


And even if he had 10 engineers, just use the Mac cannon on that one first and the shells would likely kill most if not all of them. And even you Rocket that one, it wouldnt take long to die anyways, most of the time your guys will shoot them first anyways.

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If I was the Arbiter, a 9 foot tall male alien and my birth name was Shirley... I would be angry too.
Even if it is a cute name.

Unskilledjt:i was play a freindly game with some other person online the other day. He was the Arbitar and i was Captian Cutter (or the old fart). i upgraded my infantry all the way to get ODST when i spawnd 40/40 from the barracks i then attacked his base. But when i get there i saw that he had 2 scarabs. That seemend normal. but when i used my special for them to damage the scarab i did absoulty no damage. i think the odst should have one more upgrade.... chain gun. every sparten gets one if you upgrade it once. but the ODST only get medics (which only heal the group after the fighting is done) and to ability to be shot down to any area that you have lit up on the map. ODST are some of the greatest infintary units in halo wars but why do they do absoultly no damage to vehical? with 40/40 units they should at least weaken it. if it wasnt for the MAC blast we would have a slaughtered army and a blown up base. post any thing you want to agree or disagree on this topic.

ODST does need some upgrade for better damage, I personally think they are the least threatful Super unit. The chaingun idea is a bit crazy though, holding some RPGs would be better and it's less complicated to hold.

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3 shots from mac kills a scarab use fourth on second scarab then rocket it even then about 5 seconds later arbitor is doing first few swings u dont even need to dbomb just focuse fire once pop drops to 20 drop ten more in rocket arby aka sherly i see y he get mad u win once u recharge rockets hit his base sheilds down base dies u run off to second base if he has one done in about 2-4 minutes he fails

DA MEXIKNS:

the Oceanborn:

First and foremost; 2 Scarabs would fill 40/60 population for a Covenant player.This leaves room for 20 Engineers, 10 each.

There's nothing that ever said that a Spartan Lazer was too heavy for a Spartan. It weighs 20.4kg (45lb). A Marine could lift it.

Hm, are you sure, i swear to God i remember someone talking about it, and a quote from the book was "a huge weapon, only the strongest of spartans could hold it" or something along those lines... 

In First Strike it was stated that Locklear had a hard time lifting a fuelrod cannon, which Grace promptly relieved him of (show off, so glad she got toasted by the Brutes)  which is kinda funny since grunts seem to have no problem. 

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