To be nitpicky, if the UNSC invaded the US, the Army would handle the problem.

On topic, the UNSC airforce would descimate much of our current airforce and ground units because they are packing 120mm cannons, They are essentially flying Abrams tanks. I'd say the UNSC has tougher armor. On the other hand the US has pretty good electronic warefare measures, not sure if they could stand up to a ship grade AI. The only thing effective thing we have against the UNSC would good anti-air, and superior tactics. I think and abrams Could go toe-to-toe with a Scorpion. The hummer has slightly more armor, while the Warthog has much more mobility, and is quiter. I'd say the battle rifle beats the M-4 with bigger bullets and moderate range and accuracy. The navy could support the USMC with Cruise missiles. All together I'd say the UNSC has a slight edge over the USMC mainly gained from advanced weapon tech. I'm excluding projected tech as we may, or may not see it. I think it comes down to how resiliant the UNSC infantry plate armor is.

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We would die, we would put up a good fight but in the end die. They are the future us basically. How would they NOT own us? They use mongooses..... A FREAKING ATV. Thats how badass they are, they would ride into battle totally exposed on a atv. Plus if we hand no space support they would still win. Hornets > USMC whatever...

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To be honest with you, the US might have a chance.  ODSTs are good, yeah, but their armor is black.  If you're walking on a battlefield you need to blend in.  Our trained USMC snipers can actually hide, (ghillie suits) and our sniper rifles are still adequate enough to do their jobs.  If the US was attacked, we would send in Navy SEALS to the most challenging areas of attack, who may not have fancy Battle Rifles but are good enough to pretty much beat everything.  Call me unrealistic.  You gotta admit - those guys can kick anyone's tails.  The unfortunte downside is that we don't have a bunch of them.  And even if they did have Pelicans.  Pshh.  Just send in the F-22s.  Say bye-bye to those big slow lumbering hunks of metal!  Remember in Halo 3 during that annoying scene where there are "BANSHEES! Fast and low!" (Brings back headaches...) A single one of those takes out a Pelican, so I don't see the reason why a much better aircraft in the F-22 can't do the job.

And Scorpians...why couldn't Javelins take care of them?  It seems like their top armor is weak...relatively speaking, anyway.  My answer to Warthogs...Feed em Abrams and Bradleys.  Or, just shoot at the people inside from above...they're completely open except for the windshields...

Don't even start about Mongooses...what kind of tactical advantage does that piece of junk give you?  How many soldiers are going to stand on its back with a rocket launcher?  It must have been France's idea at a UN meeting in the 26th century...

As long as the UNSC doesn't send all of their people...the USA will win.

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ha we'd kick there asses... not to menchen that a very large portion of the UNSC probabley use to be USMC before it was created, also I bet a lot are from the US to

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Ŧhunder€hief:

To be nitpicky, if the UNSC invaded the US, the Army would handle the problem.

 

technically speaking that is wrong only the Marines, airforce, and National gards have jeristiction on US soil... the senate would have to approve the navy and army, and even then they would all be place under USMC command

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We would die, we would put up a good fight but in the end die. They are the future us basically. How would they NOT own us? They use mongooses..... A FREAKING ATV. Thats how badass they are, they would ride into battle totally exposed on a atv. Plus if we hand no space support they would still win. Hornets > USMC whatever...

Hellfire missile>Mongeese, AMRAAM>Hornet. Therefore  AH-64(Apache) > Mongoose, and AH-1W(Cobra) > Hornet

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We'd lose. We'd last for a while but we'd lose. They have over 800 planets to get troops and resources from. We have about 120 million citizens and a standing Army of about 1.5 million active duty and 1.5 million non-combat. We only have the resources we can access by current means. That means that if we were invaded by the billions of troops they could send in, we'd capize rather quickly, I'd say in a few months as a good estimate. A not so favorable time scale is this;

• UNSC begins massive invasion of America, using millions of troops. With millions in reserve.
• The U.S. military, fights back with the majority being wiped out in the first week.
• During the second week, the UNSC makes giant strides across the Continental States.
• Third Week; A few holdouts of U.S. Troops and government are holed up in Alaska, Hawaii, and in a few bunker complexs in the Appalachians(spelling).
• Fourth Week:Washington has been captured and most of the U.S. Terratories and holdings have broken away. These breakaway holdings are intergrated with the local nations.
• We lose. It took a month, but we lost.

The UNSC doesn't need a technological advantage. They can just swamp us with sheer numbers.

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To be honest with you, the US might have a chance.  ODSTs are good, yeah, but their armor is black.  If you're walking on a battlefield you need to blend in.  Our trained USMC snipers can actually hide, (ghillie suits) and our sniper rifles are still adequate enough to do their jobs.  If the US was attacked, we would send in Navy SEALS to the most challenging areas of attack, who may not have fancy Battle Rifles but are good enough to pretty much beat everything.  Call me unrealistic.  You gotta admit - those guys can kick anyone's tails.  The unfortunte downside is that we don't have a bunch of them.  And even if they did have Pelicans.  Pshh.  Just send in the F-22s.  Say bye-bye to those big slow lumbering hunks of metal!  Remember in Halo 3 during that annoying scene where there are "BANSHEES! Fast and low!" (Brings back headaches...) A single one of those takes out a Pelican, so I don't see the reason why a much better aircraft in the F-22 can't do the job.

And Scorpians...why couldn't Javelins take care of them?  It seems like their top armor is weak...relatively speaking, anyway.  My answer to Warthogs...Feed em Abrams and Bradleys.  Or, just shoot at the people inside from above...they're completely open except for the windshields...

Don't even start about Mongooses...what kind of tactical advantage does that piece of junk give you?  How many soldiers are going to stand on its back with a rocket launcher?  It must have been France's idea at a UN meeting in the 26th century...

As long as the UNSC doesn't send all of their people...the USA will win.

Your not proving anything...the Pelicans were attacked by Banshee's that use PLASMA weapons and they did sure JUST one strafing run but it was actually TWO Banshee's...BTW the Pelican can't kick no Jet ass it can sure beat some Apache and Cobra Ass... the UNSC's Fighter Jet is the Longsword Air And Space Interceptor (I know thats not the official name but it operates in both and its designation IS a Interceptor) and a Longsword can take a Raptor ANYDAY OF THE WEEK ANYWEEK OF THE MONTH.... I'd agree with you on the Scorpion and Abram...but the Scorpion does have the bigger gun...the Abrams is faster...a Warthog is better equipped when it comes to weaponry that a Bradley or Striker or a HUMVEE...and is faster and to the SEALS...well they be feed to the Helljumpers...which they do have camo suits...but who needs camo suits when the enemy just knows your there? and if the Helljumpers dont send them to hell then a Spartan can sure make them cry for there momma...

one thing I just realized...and YEs I do know the Spartans are from the NAVY section of the UNSC but they are still Foot Soldiers they would be pressed into combat...no matter what...A Spartan can send anything the USMC throws at them with its tail between its legs...just ask for John... 

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Actually, the population of the US is around 300 million so we can muster a larger force than you think.
Even the UNSC does not have the cabability to send in that many troops, they could match the US and go a little higher, but not much.

The tech employed by the US Military is advanced.
Infantry - UNSC would have the advantage due to greater numbers and better armor, but the US infantry would still eb able to put up one hell of a fight.

Armor - M1A2 > Scorpion

Air - Laser systems beat UNSC aircraft, US aircraft better than UNSC aircraft

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Ŧhunder€hief:

To be nitpicky, if the UNSC invaded the US, the Army would handle the problem.

 

technically speaking that is wrong only the Marines, airforce, and National gards have jeristiction on US soil... the senate would have to approve the navy and army, and even then they would all be place under USMC command

You're forgetting about the National Guard, and the President is commander in chief, all branches answer to him, not the Senate. The Marine Corps is the expeditionary branch of the U.S. armed services, and used to be an extension of the Navy. Therefore, the Army would be the first to react fight back an invasion of the USA by the UNSC.

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this may not be exactly on topic but do you think in the halo universe the UNSC is pretty low tech weapon-wise because other than a few rebels here and there they didnt really have to do much fighting.

 I dont think there would be many wars when the planets were only just being colonized

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think the unsc are the usmc they have all the old weapons scraped why because the new ones are better  unsc wins 1000000000000-0

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If you guys remeber the ODST in the book contact harvest can deflect old tec bullets and crap so ODST win

 

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Actually, the population of the US is around 300 million so we can muster a larger force than you think.
Even the UNSC does not have the cabability to send in that many troops, they could match the US and go a little higher, but not much.

The tech employed by the US Military is advanced.
Infantry - UNSC would have the advantage due to greater numbers and better armor, but the US infantry would still eb able to put up one hell of a fight.

Armor - M1A2 > Scorpion

Air - Laser systems beat UNSC aircraft, US aircraft better than UNSC aircraft

LETS SEE 300 million civilians (not all are combat capable) lets say 250 million are, agaisnt the UNSC which controls around 800 worlds, by there time Earth holds like what? 15 Billion citizens? and Reach the UNSC GHQ which is mostly just a Military Planet is much bigger that Earth and the Humam Population is much larger...Yeah...just with numbers the UNSC wins.

The Scorpion uses Tungsten tipped Armor Piercing High Explosive Rounds...

Laser System? the UNSC Longsword has twin 120mm Cannons...the Abrams has a cannon about the same size, Archer Missiles are far better that the Current Sparrow or Sidewinders...Longsword doesnt even need half the speed of the F-22 to Reach Supersonic...and yeah it uses Stealth Tec.

The Pelican and Hornets are USNC VTOL craft (like the Harrier or Apache Attack Helicopters) used as Air Support for ground forces in other words they work much like the A-10 and Blackhawks of the US military, theres also the Shortsword which pretty much behaves the same way the B-2 Spirit does and the Albatross which is basically an over-grown Chinook or Osprey. the UNSC also has several high-speed Atmospheric jet fighters that can easily surpass the F-22 or F-35.

The LandWarrior System currently being worked on by the US, is nothing compared to the Neural Implants on the UNSC, ODST armor can deflect small caliber weapons (by UNSC standards) which I believe it would deflect several M-16 rounds, also its completely sealed so forget about chemical or Bio-warfare, YOU ALL also seem to forget about the Spartans...which basically one spartan is the equivalent of maybe a Battalion or maybe a Company? and the UNSC holds around 75 S. II spartans and maybe some 320 S.III spartans and even then One spartan proved to be much better that an entire enemy force MUCH more advance that the UNSC its self...in more that one Occasion (and its not just the Chief, his comrades, Frederic, Linda, Kelly and the others proved this time an again when the stats were essentially 300-to-1 ratios...the spartans used there surroundings and many improvised tactics and equipment to sanitize a force that would essentially mean death to a normal human or a modern day soldier, you really can't put a price on the spartans...specially a generation 2 spartan.

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Seath:

Actually, the population of the US is around 300 million so we can muster a larger force than you think.
Even the UNSC does not have the cabability to send in that many troops, they could match the US and go a little higher, but not much.

The tech employed by the US Military is advanced.
Infantry - UNSC would have the advantage due to greater numbers and better armor, but the US infantry would still eb able to put up one hell of a fight.

Armor - M1A2 > Scorpion

Air - Laser systems beat UNSC aircraft, US aircraft better than UNSC aircraft

LETS SEE 300 million civilians (not all are combat capable) lets say 250 million are, agaisnt the UNSC which controls around 800 worlds, by there time Earth holds like what? 15 Billion citizens? and Reach the UNSC GHQ which is mostly just a Military Planet is much bigger that Earth and the Humam Population is much larger...Yeah...just with numbers the UNSC wins.

Correct on an average estimate of how many citizens would be elegible for military service in the U.S.A.

The Scorpion uses Tungsten tipped Armor Piercing High Explosive Rounds...

I think the M1A1 wins here. 120mm Depleted Uranium Core Fin Discarding Sabot Kinetic Rounds vs. The 90mm Tungsten Tipped A-P HEAT(High Explosive Anti-Tank) Rounds. Not to mention the M1A1 has a higher round velocity due to the physical limitations on round velocity imposed by the 90mm cannon.

Laser System? the UNSC Longsword has twin 120mm Cannons...the Abrams has a cannon about the same size, Archer Missiles are far better that the Current Sparrow or Sidewinders...Longsword doesnt even need half the speed of the F-22 to Reach Supersonic...and yeah it uses Stealth Tec.

That laser system is a ground based anti-missile system. It's big. It can shoot down ICBM's from geocentic orbit. It could probably take out a few Longswords. Plus the Longsword space stealth, is that it is painted black. In broad daylight, it would show up like a Boeing 747. Not to mention the right angles on that thing. Those would show up on a radar screen. Big time.

The Pelican and Hornets are USNC VTOL craft (like the Harrier or Apache Attack Helicopters) used as Air Support for ground forces in other words they work much like the A-10 and Blackhawks of the US military, theres also the Shortsword which pretty much behaves the same way the B-2 Spirit does and the Albatross which is basically an over-grown Chinook or Osprey. the UNSC also has several high-speed Atmospheric jet fighters that can easily surpass the F-22 or F-35.

The Pelican is a combat transport. It's also about between the size of a Black Hawk and a Chinook Helicopter. The Hornet would be outmanuvered by an Apache and the Harrier is no longer the foremostVTOL craft of the world anymore. The J-35 that U.S. has made is. The Albatross is their version of the Chinook/ Osprey. The Shortsword and B-2 Spirit are a little different. For one thing, can the Shortsword carry 50,000  lbs. of conventional explosives and nuclear ordance? How about the stealth chararteristics. The B-2 is a Stealth Bomber. The Shortsword isn't.

The LandWarrior System currently being worked on by the US, is nothing compared to the Neural Implants on the UNSC, ODST armor can deflect small caliber weapons (by UNSC standards) which I believe it would deflect several M-16 rounds, also its completely sealed so forget about chemical or Bio-warfare, YOU ALL also seem to forget about the Spartans...which basically one spartan is the equivalent of maybe a Battalion or maybe a Company? and the UNSC holds around 75 S. II spartans and maybe some 320 S.III spartans and even then One spartan proved to be much better that an entire enemy force MUCH more advance that the UNSC its self...in more that one Occasion (and its not just the Chief, his comrades, Frederic, Linda, Kelly and the others proved this time an again when the stats were essentially 300-to-1 ratios...the spartans used there surroundings and many improvised tactics and equipment to sanitize a force that would essentially mean death to a normal human or a modern day soldier, you really can't put a price on the spartans...specially a generation 2 spartan.

They have us beat on Spartans. But we have devoloped body armor almost as good as theirs. And an ODST body suit isn't going to deflect a grenade or a .50 caliber BMG sniper round. And they would send in a lot more regular UNSC Marines than ODST. Plus, can it deflect only 5.56x45mm Nato Rounds (or smaller) or can it deflect larger 7.62x51mm LMG and sniper rounds? They have us beat for logistics, those neural implants are a problem. But we are working on computerising our troop's armor. That Land Warrior System gives us the equivelent of the neural implants, without major neurological surgery. But they still have us beat for numbers and the Spartan Programs.

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